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[Sylvius the Mad]

My favourite vversion of Cassandra was from the very first DA2 footage, when she had white hair. But the DAI version is my second favourite.

[MrMrPendragon]

DinoSteve wrote...

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

The majority likes the new Cassandra, only a few wish to alter it, for a lack of a better term, drastically.

I, for one, would like to Cassandra to appear more feminine just because I want her to look like pretty.

But I'm not going to push it, because as I said, the majority likes the new Cassandra, and I'd rather not receive unnecessary criticisms for wanting something that's outside the majority's preferences.

I don't honestly care how she looks, but she does look like a guy. I also wouldn't say majority.

Well I WOULD say it's the majority.

I agree that she somewhat looks like a guy.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

The majority likes the new Cassandra, only a few wish to alter it, for a lack of a better term, drastically.

I, for one, would like to Cassandra to appear more feminine just because I want her to look like pretty.

But I'm not going to push it, because as I said, the majority likes the new Cassandra, and I'd rather not receive unnecessary criticisms for wanting something that's outside the majority's preferences.

I don't honestly care how she looks, but she does look like a guy. I also wouldn't say majority.

Well I WOULD say it's the majority.

I agree that she somewhat looks like a guy.

Well you must not get outside of bsn much.

[JCAP]

Some people here: "Bioware, you know that Cassandra is not very feminine don't you?"

Bioware Staff: "Seriously? You don't say... (sarcastic mode activated)"

Me and some other people: "Just another normal day on BSN"

Modifié par JCAP, 12 décembre 2013 - 09:01 .

[PsychoBlonde]

David Gaider wrote...

I actually took this to Matt Goldman, our Art Director, and said, "New engine aside, couldn't you at least have made Cassandra and Morrigan look exactly like they did before? They were universally pretty back then. Everyone on our forums thought so, even from the first screenshots. And now..."

:lol::lol:

I'm laughing so hard right now.  Whew, that was hilarious!

[PsychoBlonde]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

My favourite vversion of Cassandra was from the very first DA2 footage, when she had white hair. But the DAI version is my second favourite.

Personally, I think she looks MORE feminine now.  She looked like a bit like an alien or an anime character before.

[rapscallioness]

I dont think Cass looks "manly". I think she looks like a woman w/ a pixie hair cut and a square jaw. She does look a bit different than DA2, but then I expected that considering it's a diff engine.

As far as whether you may still want to romance her, just wait and see. Get to know her because it will really depend on what her personality is like and whether or not there is some rapport between her and your character of that PT.

I think she looks good, tho. And I like the scar. I hope they keep that (as well as let us have scars).

So, OP, just give it time, and give her a chance. If you still find that you're no longer attracted to her because of the diff look, and that factor overrides her personality...then there will prolly be another npc that's more to your liking.

[The Antagonist]

Should I mention the blatant transphobia in this thread?

[PsychoBlonde]

rapscallioness wrote...

I dont think Cass looks "manly". I think she looks like a woman w/ a pixie hair cut and a square jaw.

Huh, kind of like me:

[Afro_Explosion]

Again cassandra looks fine maybe it's because I like all types of women ,but to me cassandra looks plenty feminine and sexy

[rapscallioness]

I think pixie haircuts can look great on women, just as long hair can look great on some guys.

[sylvanaerie]

I like the new Cassandra. Seriously. It's not the looks changing that throws me, it's a complete personality morph that does it. I liked the old Cassandra and I liked her look in the Anime. None of them match up, but I still know who she is, and who she was and enjoyed watching the movie, enjoyed playing DA2. I'm sure I'll enjoy DAI.

Provided she suddenly doesn't morph into a giggly Barbie doll wannabe, I'm okay with her. I was okay with Aveline in vanilla. The mod I love most looks almost exactly the same except it got rid of the over plucked brows. I wanted to vomit every time I saw one of those Barbie doll versions of Aveline dressed in 'armor' that looked more like something I'd see a Bourbon Str hooker wearing than a warrior woman.  

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what anyone looks like someone, somewhere is going to mod them till they look like brainless plastic Barbie dolls.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 12 décembre 2013 - 09:15 .

[rapscallioness]

Is that really you, PsychoBlonde?

Well, now I have a face to go w/ the mischievious sense of humor!

[sylvanaerie]

Hey, I love pixie cuts! And Psychoblonde is adorable, not manly!

[JCAP]

David, do you know what you should do? A little easter egg...

The protagonist can say to her: "Damn, you look like a man"

And she says: "Oh really?"

Modifié par JCAP, 12 décembre 2013 - 09:20 .

[N7recruit]

 Dude, seriously? You think she looks like a man? So having short hair makes you look like a man, well then by that logic I must look like a woman because I have longish hair.  And what "Manly" features are you talking about? 

I think she looks awesome, and mate we havn't even seen her in a proper HD Gameplay video yet so please sir calm your ******. 

[karushna5]

David Gaider wrote...

Ah, you discovered it. We actually did prettier versions of Cassandra and Morrigan, and the new engine spat them back out and said, "What do you think you are? BF4?" Goddamn capricious game engines, man.

I actually took this to Matt Goldman, our Art Director, and said, "New engine aside, couldn't you at least have made Cassandra and Morrigan look exactly like they did before? They were universally pretty back then. Everyone on our forums thought so, even from the first screenshots. And now..."

And he wept, man. He wept.

Tsk. Crunch is hard on artists.

This made me laugh so hard! I actually got my coke in my nose. 

As far as everything else...Woman do have strong jaws and short hair, all over I see, especially fantasy, guys with long hair and delicate jaws, no one mistakes them for women except when that is the intention. Many many woman have strong jaws and short hair, and never mistaken for a guy. I really think this is that often the media often shows a few  types of woman and says this is a woman.  And whether a woman is a woman or not is directly tied to her femininity. A masculine woman lacks what a woman is, something that seems entirely based on looks. 

As much as I adore both characters, I was really disappointed that Avelines and Isabela's "friendship" was so toxic. Isabela was by the whole cast insulted by her behavior. The devs said it was good because she could respond, but every person gave her trouble and belittled her, especially Aveline. Exception I think was Varric. But so many people judged her, it sometimes felt the game was. And then Aveline was just mannish, it felt the game was trying to subvert, when really it was establishing. In fact most people I see actually quote the "friends"  insults as reasons why to dislike both.

What I mean is there is such a long code of behavior for women. And their looks and sexual practices seem to qualify them as first a woman, and then second as a GOOD woman. When neither of these things should apply, or matter.  I am so looking forward to Cassandra, and she calls herself she? Then she is a woman. she is still recognizable as herself, and that is what matters.

[Gileadan]

"Hey Cassandra, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
"No, have you?"

[WhiteKnyght]

Everybody clearly wants Cassandra to look like this in Inquisition.



An 18ish year old anime babe.

David Gaider wrote...

I actually took this to Matt Goldman, our Art Director, and said, "New engine aside, couldn't you at least have made Cassandra and Morrigan look exactly like they did before? They were universally pretty back then. Everyone on our forums thought so, even from the first screenshots. And now..."

And he wept, man. He wept.

Tsk. Crunch is hard on artists.

I don't think the differences are that bad. Cassandra's jaw looks a bit too large to me but I really don't care much about that. The only character who I want to look flawless is character I design myself to be my Inquisitor.

Plus players have to take time into consideration. Inquisition is probably not immediately following the events of Dragon Age II.  So why should they look exactly the same?

Morrigan hasn't been seen since Witch Hunt, so she's definitely gonna be showing age. And Cassandra, by DA2, Cassadra would be what, around 38-40 years old, depending how old she is in Dawn of the Seeker? Which is 8 years prior to DAO, which itself is 10 years before Varric's interrogation. So she's naturally going to look different from age(she's probably in her mid to late 40s in DAI, would be my guess.)

In short, people are just looking for excuses to drama.

[durasteel]

I do think that it would be better, all things equal, for characters we're familiar with to be easily recognizable. The only reason I knew that the lady in the trailer was Morrigan was because of the voice (and oh, what a voice.)

[Walrider]

Gileadan wrote...

"Hey Cassandra, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
"No, have you?"

+1 for the reference.

[WhiteKnyght]

durasteel wrote...

I do think that it would be better, all things equal, for characters we're familiar with to be easily recognizable. The only reason I knew that the lady in the trailer was Morrigan was because of the voice (and oh, what a voice.)

You must have terrible eyesight then.

I could have been watching the trailer muted and recognized everyone. Especially Morrigan.

Even if her face is showing age(hell, she's gotta be in her 40s now, wheas she was 20s in Origins), her haircut, cosmetics, and color scheme is still largely the same.

[MrMrPendragon]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

In short, people are just looking for excuses to drama.

People take to the forums to suggest what they want.

But saying it outright would come off as too demanding, that's why they come up with colorful reasons.


I want Cassandra to look pretty. But thing is, pretty is subjective, there is no fixed value for it.
So all this arguing is probably not going to conjure up a solution that can make us all happy.

Modifié par ArcherTactlenecks, 12 décembre 2013 - 09:41 .

[Sandy]

If this version (from PAX) is any indication of the Cassandra we will be getting in the final version of Inquisition then I'm perfectly fine with that.

She doesn't look exactly like she did in DA", but it has been a few years and the engine is pretty different. They have gone from a 'stylized realism' (similar to what they have in SWTOR) to a more 'harsh realism' due to the engine change. Things will look different, especially characters, since they no longer look like they are made out of clay or plastic (I'm not saying this was a bad thing, in fact it worked fine for DA2 and still does for SWTOR and it scaled well for many machines). However, the new engine will be able to give us more detail and closer (not there yet obviously) to photo-realism.

Like Mr Gaider said in one of his previous posts, I think what most people who complain about Cassandra's new look are saying is that they don't think she looks ugly per se, but that she looks plenty different from her DA2 look. And I agree that she does. When the first trailer for DA:I hit I also found her look to just be too different from DA2, and I couldn't really recognize her... fully. However, the change they did to her from the first DA:I trailer to PAX was a big step in the right direction. The PAX version looks 'distinctively like Cassandra' even though it doesn't look exactly like the DA2 counterpart. She has a somewhat strong jaw and chin, but guess what, I think she looks like a beautiful woman nonetheless and I'm kind of starting to prefer this new look. I'm sure they will keep tweaking her look until the game comes out, whater that may be making her more feminine or not remains to be seen.

Also, I belive getting hung up on words like manly or manish (or feminine for that matter) is kind of pointless. The way I think most people are using it simply means wider, squarer and stronger jaw, chin and cheeks. While these features aren't always tied to testosterone, having a 'manly/manish' face is usually do to a larger amount of testosterone. Nothing wrong with it, that's simply why some facial features are considered more closely related to one gender. Hence the word manly or manish, and it should be taken as an insult in of itself.

Saying someone is ugly because they have a face that has a strong jaw/chin/cheeks however is a whole other matter and I don't agree with it at all.

Modifié par sandellniklas, 12 décembre 2013 - 09:55 .