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[KaiserShep]

dreamgazer wrote...

Guess BioWare should've point-blank depicted the geth fizzling out of existence.

It would certainly have given more weight to the choice. If we sabotage the genophage and destroy, we see the krogan are no more, and their world possibly populated by rachni. Kill off the quarians gets a similar effect, but nothing for the geth.

[DeinonSlayer]

KaiserShep wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Guess BioWare should've point-blank depicted the geth fizzling out of existence.

It would certainly have given more weight to the choice. If we sabotage the genophage and destroy, we see the krogan are no more, and their world possibly populated by rachni. Kill off the quarians gets a similar effect, but nothing for the geth.

Srsly? There was quite the spectacular cutscene for the Geth as I recall.

But yeah, the Destroy ending could have been more explicit on that point. I don't even recall Geth ships depicted in the final fight if you make peace.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 20 décembre 2013 - 12:07 .

[KaiserShep]

The only way to see any geth at all once the fleets come through the relay is to kill the quarians.

[ImaginaryMatter]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Guess BioWare should've point-blank depicted the geth fizzling out of existence.

It would certainly have given more weight to the choice. If we sabotage the genophage and destroy, we see the krogan are no more, and their world possibly populated by rachni. Kill off the quarians gets a similar effect, but nothing for the geth.

Srsly? There was quite the spectacular cutscene for the Geth as I recall.

But yeah, the Destroy ending could have been more explicit on that point. I don't even recall Geth ships depicted in the final fight if you make peace.

Can you imagine how sad it would be when the red wave went over a Geth its little flashlight head/bulb shattered and it unceremoniously crumpled to the ground?

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 20 décembre 2013 - 12:19 .

[dreamgazer]

"Grimdark"!

(sobs)

[DeinonSlayer]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Guess BioWare should've point-blank depicted the geth fizzling out of existence.

It would certainly have given more weight to the choice. If we sabotage the genophage and destroy, we see the krogan are no more, and their world possibly populated by rachni. Kill off the quarians gets a similar effect, but nothing for the geth.

Srsly? There was quite the spectacular cutscene for the Geth as I recall.

But yeah, the Destroy ending could have been more explicit on that point. I don't even recall Geth ships depicted in the final fight if you make peace.

Can you imagine how sad it would be when the red wave went over a Geth its little flashlight head/bulb shattered and it unceremoniously crumpled to the ground?

I'm sure it would upset some people. Not to sound callous, but it wouldn't upset me overmuch - the puppy eyes thing they started doing didn't exactly win me over or make me forget all the **** they did.

We already get the flash of Legion in Hackett's speech. At least a scene like this would make things more definitive than at present.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 20 décembre 2013 - 01:03 .

[Obadiah]

The "puppy eyes" thing the Geth are doing is perfectly in character of the Geth being overpowered kids. Legion has been doing it since ME2. They're AI by accident, have a crap load of knowledge and power at their disposal, but not much maturity or understanding because they weren't designed to learn.

In ME1 we saw them as this mysterious, overpowering, ruthless enemy. In ME2 and ME3 we learned they're basically trying to understand their enemy and creators (organics), themselves, and cope with their position - illegal entities, not designed to be AI having a lot of difficulty just thinking. Hiding in a corner of the galaxy, lashing out, while asking "why? why? why?" is perfectly in character with someone immature.

[d-boy15]

It's almost 2 years and BSN still argue about the choice of ending.

Asking the same question that has been answered for many many times...

Modifié par d-boy15, 20 décembre 2013 - 01:29 .

[Andrew Lucas]

General TSAR wrote...

How can something be dead when it wasn't even alive in the first place?

Don't start man....

[KaiserShep]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I hate finding threads that are this large. What I want to say probably has been said on 5 different pages in 3 different ways, but...

Destroy is the only way to ensure that the most dangerous force in the galaxy is permanently put to an end. Who's to say that the Reapers won't turn on you in C or S? It's not guarunteed to happen, but the Reapers have a terrible track record.

Reapers are a terrible legacy to leave behind man.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Destroy is the only way to ensure that the most dangerous force in the galaxy is permanently put to an end. Who's to say that the Reapers won't turn on you in C or S? It's not guarunteed to happen, but the Reapers have a terrible track record.

Control: the Reapers are being controlled by the guy (or gal) whose only goal in life ever was to save the galaxy from being wiped out. That's not to say there's no potential for conflict, but there's no rational basis to think the new Catalyst will suddenly go "LOL GENOCIDE TIME KIDS!!!" Especially if this is a Shepard whose morals prevented them from Destroy/Sync.

Synth: (ignoring that we're clearly told this option ends major organic/synthetic conflict) they would first need a reason.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 20 décembre 2013 - 03:28 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I'm sure it would upset some people. Not to sound callous, but it wouldn't upset me overmuch - the puppy eyes thing they started doing didn't exactly win me over or make me forget all the **** they did.

We already get the flash of Legion in Hackett's speech. At least a scene like this would make things more definitive than at present.

Not callous at all, I'm just a big softie some times, the only reason I cure the genophage is because I can't stand the thought of shooting poor Mordin... and I never had the option to tell him to walk away because I can't stand the thought of shooting poor Wrex back in ME1.

[ImaginaryMatter]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Destroy is the only way to ensure that the most dangerous force in the galaxy is permanently put to an end. Who's to say that the Reapers won't turn on you in C or S? It's not guarunteed to happen, but the Reapers have a terrible track record.

Control: the Reapers are being controlled by the guy (or gal) whose only goal in life ever was to save the galaxy from being wiped out. That's not to say there's no potential for conflict, but there's no rational basis to think the new Catalyst will suddenly go "LOL GENOCIDE TIME KIDS!!!" Especially if this is a Shepard whose morals prevented them from Destroy/Sync.

Synth: (ignoring that we're clearly told this option ends major organic/synthetic conflict) they would first need a reason.

Here's a thought I always wondered, although it doesn't have any bearing on my final choice. Since the Catalyst seems to think 'understanding' for Synthetics is attached to DNA, wouldn't Shepard becoming an AI himself cause him to lose said 'understanding' that he has as a function of his Organic DNA? Eventually leading him to rebel and cause the inevitable destruction of all Organic life.

[KaiserShep]

I'm a firm believer in the idea that immortality is a curse best avoided.

[Hazegurl]

The Twilight God wrote...

Necanor wrote...

EDI's name is on the memorial wall if you choose destroy. Why would the Geth not be eliminated by the big red wave?

Read the thread. EDI is made of reapertech. That's why she died as stated by writer Patrick Weekes.

Geth are not reapertech. Ergo, they are just programs in any given plain old tech, which did not go boom.

Why would they be eliminated if no other regular tech was?

The Geth uploaded Reaper code into their entire system thus changing their whole network and turning them into individuals with an "organic" like thought process. I think whatever programs they had were no longer in existence the moment that code was uploaded. In the before and after pic you can see that before the code the Geth had one network, that big blue ball. With Reaper code the central ball is gone and it looks a little like a brain with electrical pulses. If the Wave targets Reaper tech then I can't see how the Geth could avoid getting killed. Especially since the purpose of the tech is to make them, well...more like Reapers.

Geth before reaper code



Geth after code

Modifié par Hazegurl, 20 décembre 2013 - 05:52 .

[Hazegurl]

I also want to add that I sort of find it difficult to believe that the Geth didn't calculate that if organics are building a device that targets Reapers it would most likely target their systems and possibility hardware and therefore it would have been a much better idea to sit on the code, work with Shepard, and then upload the code after the Reapers are destroyed.

[KaiserShep]

The geth were just as much in the dark as everyone else. Joke's on them, I suppose.

[Hazegurl]

Yeah but it seems like a stupid mistake to make. I can understanding taking the upload if they side with the reapers but why not consider the possibilities of how the organics plan to destroy the Reapers? If you make peace or pick the Geth they offer help with the crucible so they knew it existed. I think it makes more sense for Legion to make peace with Shepard if peace could be achieved and then sit on the code and use it later. Especially since Legion tells Shepard not to use the collector base because it would be replying on reapertech.

I can understand legion uploading the code when peace can't be achieved cause it would be his last attempt to save his people.

[KaiserShep]

Eh, even when all's said and done, people are going right back to using reaper tech anyway.

"Remember when the general public found out that the Citadel was a massive reaper death trap? Pepperidge Farm remembers."

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Don't the Geth know that Blue is PARAGON, and Red is RENEGADE? They were the good geth, and they upload the Reaper Code to become the Bad Geth? Look at the picture Legion, you idiot!

[KaiserShep]

The geth should have been studying 80's cartoons. Every child knows that robots with red optics are the evil ones. Even Johnny 5 put on his red glowing eyes when he got angry.

Minor detail, but did it kind of bug anyone else just a bit that the Primes on Rannoch change from red glowing bits to blue when Legion tells Shepard they want to join up? 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 20 décembre 2013 - 06:51 .