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[ruggly]

dreamgazer wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Now I'm tempted to get you started on it..

Put simply, in GIF format ...

[Ravensword]

CrustyBot wrote...

Because I can.

Torment: Tides of Numenera





Pillars of Eternity





Commandos 2





Arcanum



Baldur's Gate 2



Shadowrun Returns



Icewind Dale



Planescape: Torment



Fallout 2

Yeah, that's real nice and all, but are any of the characters in these games mocapped by well-known and actors and professionals, or is it all done through the use of inferior voice actors? If it is the case of the latter, then these cannot receive the Seival Seal o Approval.

[Liamv2]

David Warner sucks. 

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I've played Shadow Fall on friends PS4 before home party and I have to say that game looks really nice. I bet it would look better on PC with all modern features and stuff, but still it looks good. As goes for the story, its average but gameplay is good (i hate shooters with gamepad though).

[IllusiveManJr]

What is this thread about now?

[wolfhowwl]

Seival getting blown the **** out.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Liamv2 wrote...

David Warner sucks. 

R U AVING A GIGGLE M8? 

I SWER ON ME MUM I FKN WILL REK U KENT. 

I KNO HE HAS BIN INCONSYSTENT AND HIS A CHEEKY M8 OFF-FIELD BUT HE FKN REKT THE POMMIE BOWLING LINE UP IN DA ASHS U LITTLE BTCH

[billy the squid]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

I've played Shadow Fall on friends PS4 before home party and I have to say that game looks really nice. I bet it would look better on PC with all modern features and stuff, but still it looks good. As goes for the story, its average but gameplay is good (i hate shooters with gamepad though).

That's not surprising, Killzone unlike CoD and BF has no auto aim. So it's actually more difficult to aim using a pad than normal, at least in MP.

Personally I really enjoyed the time I played on MP, need to wait until I get a Ps4 next yr.

[Seival]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

spirosz wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even so, graphics don't mean much. I mean, sure, good graphics are nice, but they are hardly a requirement for a good game. 1080p was built on the back of 8bit.

The argument that has been going on is that better graphics = a better overall game, which is basically what everyone here is disagreeing with.  

Definitely. Graphical fidelity is nice, but it doesn't make (or break) a game. It's just pretty to look at, nothing more.

Great story pleases our minds, great music creates perfect atmosphere, great graphics creates amazing level of immersion. Remove at least one great thing, and the game becomes much worse than it could be. Only gameplay can't affect the game's quality much. There only real requirement for the gameplay is to be acceptible enough, so player will never become bored while playing. Devs who love feature creeping never produce good enough games.

Modifié par Seival, 18 décembre 2013 - 01:15 .

[Seival]

Rubios wrote...

Seival wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Seival wrote...

Maybe you just lack the ability to search nice screenshots?

Those are renders honey, not screenshots.

You'll have to wait for PS5 (or PS6) to see that stuff in-game.

Maybe you should launch K:SF on PS4 and observe its graphics directly, instead of watching the game on YouTube?
Seriously, you have no idea what are you talking about.

Even though you brough ****ty compressed versions of them the first two are official bullshots released by Guerrilla that are almost 4K downsampled from god knows what resolution (it looks like x4 SSAA or more, so we are talking about 16K+ resolutions here).

To see that rendered in less than 16ms you'll have to wait for PS6.

Again. Buy PS4, buy K:SF, and play it. Observe the characters and the environment. And do that before posting such a nonsense next time, please. Compressed YouTube videos will never give you any reliable enough info regarding a game graphics, they can only show gameplay or some storytelling features.

Modifié par Seival, 18 décembre 2013 - 01:34 .

[Seival]

 Also...

...Running in real time on PS4:

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

CrustyBot wrote...

Because I can.
*snip*

What do you want to conclude with this pic spamming?
A. They're just like copy-paste of each other
B. They're as awesome as each other
C. They're RPGs with ultra high camera
D. Commandos 2 is less RPG than Fallout: Tactics
E. Fallout: Tactics is better than Fallout 2.
F. ?

Modifié par Kaiser Arian, 18 décembre 2013 - 02:07 .

[Rusty Sandusky]

Seival wrote...

 Also...

...Running in real time on PS4:
*Emotions were here*

Seeing as these are cutscenes they really aren't indicative of the PS4's power seeing as a game on the PS1 can have CGI that looks like this


and gameplay that looks like this

Modifié par ThisOnesUsername, 18 décembre 2013 - 02:19 .

[Rusty Sandusky]

 
Also,


and

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

ThisOnesUsername wrote...

Looking at that face, the opposite may have happened as well.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

This is Back to the Future stuff lol. Spending millions upon millions on mo-cap and other ways to "act digitally" with pre-rendered scenes and in-engine cutscenes.

Probably would be cheaper to take the route that early 1990s games took like the Wing Commander series and just film the actual thing with real actors.

And I love the assertion by Seival that gameplay is the least important part of games. That's like saying cinematography is the least important part of cinema. Or writing is the least important part of books. They are games because of gameplay. Watch movies if you aren't interested in that.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 18 décembre 2013 - 03:04 .

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...
Observe the characters

Forgettable, ironic since they look pretty but their personalities are stuck in one dimension.

[Liamv2]

That's a very pretty TECH DEMO.

[Ravensword]

Seival wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Seival wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Seival wrote...

Maybe you just lack the ability to search nice screenshots?

Those are renders honey, not screenshots.

You'll have to wait for PS5 (or PS6) to see that stuff in-game.

Maybe you should launch K:SF on PS4 and observe its graphics directly, instead of watching the game on YouTube?
Seriously, you have no idea what are you talking about.

Even though you brough ****ty compressed versions of them the first two are official bullshots released by Guerrilla that are almost 4K downsampled from god knows what resolution (it looks like x4 SSAA or more, so we are talking about 16K+ resolutions here).

To see that rendered in less than 16ms you'll have to wait for PS6.

Again. Buy PS4, buy K:SF, and play it. Observe the characters and the environment. And do that before posting such a nonsense next time, please. Compressed YouTube videos will never give you any reliable enough info regarding a game graphics, they can only show gameplay or some storytelling featur/b].

Tell me about it. What a horrible world we live in where video games actually contain gameplay. The nerve of those devs out there making games where the player has to use some sort of human interface device to control characters on in the game. Video games should be totally about graphics, and as such, should just be one five-hour long cutscene.

Modifié par Ravensword, 18 décembre 2013 - 06:57 .

[Seival]

Ravensword wrote...

Tell me about it. What a horrible world we live in where video games actually contain gameplay. The nerve of those devs out there making games where the player has to use some sort of human interface device to control characters on in the game. Video games should be totally about graphics, and as such, should just be one five-hour long cutscene.

Tell me about it. How many times should someone say you something, so you finally remember what was said?

Ok, let me remind you my point about modern videogames one more time:
 - Story. Has to be really great.
 - Music and sound. Has to be really great.
 - Graphics. Has to be really great.
 - Gameplay. Has to be in game at some capacity, according to the definition of gameplay (see below).

"Gameplay is the specific way in which players interact with a game, and in particular with video games. Gameplay is the pattern defined through the game rules, connection between player and the game, challenges and overcoming them, plot and player's connection with it."

Now. Are you willing to ask me something on the topic, or you prefer to perform your regular trolling?

[The Flying Grey Warden]

What's the benefit of a game over a movie if the gameplay is pretty much just continuously pressing an unpause button?