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Killzone: Shadow Fall... Wow, the first next-gen game has set really high standards of quality.


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J. Reezy wrote...

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2. Any game can be watched on youtube, and when you watch them on youtube, you turn them all into non-interactive movies, and somehow don't even notice that.

Wow this is stupid. YouTube doesn't strip the essence of what makes a video game a video game just because someone is a passive observer instead of an active participant. That's like saying books are movies if you watch someone flip through pages on YouTube.


And last time I checked, most people watched LPs on Youtube as a way to see if the game is worth buying. Along with watching online reviews

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Seival wrote...

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Tell me about it. What a horrible world we live in where video games actually contain gameplay. The nerve of those devs out there making games where the player has to use some sort of human interface device to control characters on in the game. Video games should be totally about graphics, and as such, should just be one five-hour long cutscene.


Tell me about it. How many times should someone say you something, so you finally remember what was said?

Ok, let me remind you my point about modern videogames one more time:
 - Story. Has to be really great.
 - Music and sound. Has to be really great.
 - Graphics. Has to be really great.
 - Gameplay. Has to be in game at some capacity, according to the definition of gameplay (see below).

"Gameplay is the specific way in which players interact with a game, and in particular with video games. Gameplay is the pattern defined through the game rules, connection between player and the game, challenges and overcoming them, plot and player's connection with it."

Now. Are you willing to ask me something on the topic, or you prefer to perform your regular trolling?


Graphics are the least important thing on that list. Gameplay should be at the top.

And listen here, comrade, if anyone here appears to be remotely trolling, it would be you and your whole "PCs are weak and stupid; consoles have the bestest graphics evaaaaa!" 

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Seival wrote...
"Gameplay is the specific way in which players interact with a game, and in particular with video games. Gameplay is the pattern defined through the game rules, connection between player and the game, challenges and overcoming them, plot and player's connection with it."

Got that from Dictionary.com didn't you? It's not exactly wrong, it is severly lacking in explanation though. Do you even know what it's saying Seival? Do you know what gameplay is?


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J. Reezy wrote...

Seival wrote...
"Gameplay is the specific way in which players interact with a game, and in particular with video games. Gameplay is the pattern defined through the game rules, connection between player and the game, challenges and overcoming them, plot and player's connection with it."

Got that from Dictionary.com didn't you? It's not exactly wrong, it is severly lacking in explanation though. Do you even know what it's saying Seival? Do you know what gameplay is?


A series of constant QTEs?

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Zjarcal wrote...

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PC-exclusive devs became lazy and unable to produce something truly amazing. PC will always remain as a powerful workstation for me, nothing more than that, thanks to devs like Blizzard or publishers like Steam who refuse to move forwards.

The amount of fail in this post is astounding.

Yeah, what she said.

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ruggly wrote...

Star Citizen

Assetto Corsa

Just two examples, and yes, even with the Steam Machine being console like, it's running more powerful PC hardware, and AMD mantel, allowing for more powerful PC games to be released.


Xbox is also a PC with gamepad, so what? It was born to be second to Playstation, and will remain in that state forever. The question is which level Steam Machine is going to take - just below Playstation, or just below the Xbox... Anyhow, even Steam understands that consoles are the future of gaming, not PCs. Otherwise, it wouldn't perform any attempts to make its way into consoles market.

And your examples... Again YouTube with its compressed videos... I don't wanna even comment that further.

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PC gaming will be dead by the end of Spring.

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Sevial, let me say this again. On my HD TV, I watched videos of COD: Blops 2, NBA 2K13 and Tomb Raider to decide if I wanted to play those games. Those games looked exactly the same on the disc than when they were on a video. Of course, I watched videos made by people who cared about the quality of their videos. I can make a pretty educated guess on what the graphics of a game are going to look like based off of a Youtube video.

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Master Warder Z wrote...

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Youtube compression only affects the frame rate if I remember correctly.

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Meanwhile at the real high standard of quality storytelling
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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Sevial, let me say this again. On my HD TV, I watched videos of COD: Blops 2, NBA 2K13 and Tomb Raider to decide if I wanted to play those games. Those games looked exactly the same on the disc than when they were on a video. Of course, I watched videos made by people who cared about the quality of their videos. I can make a pretty educated guess on what the graphics of a game are going to look like based off of a Youtube video.


Well, I'm really sorry that you can't differ compressed videos from full HD live visuals in actual games.
I can. So I'll never consider YouTube as a good source of info related to game graphics.

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Liamv2 wrote...

Youtube compression only affects the frame rate if I remember correctly.


I remember hearing that too

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Bow down, everyone! We have truly met the superior being!!!

ALL HAIL SEVIAL'S EYES!!!!

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Meanwhile at the real high standard of quality storytelling
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Sorry, but don't see any quality behind those few poligons with low res textures upon them.
And were did the lighting gone? Someone forgot to implement it in at least acceptible capacity?

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Seriously dude. Did you even play video games before 2012?

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Seival wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Meanwhile at the real high standard of quality storytelling
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Sorry, but don't see any quality behind those few poligons with low res textures upon them.
And were did the lighting gone? Someone forgot to implement it in at least acceptible capacity?


Here's some better one's.

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AresKeith wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

Youtube compression only affects the frame rate if I remember correctly.


I remember hearing that too


/facepalm.

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Liamv2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Meanwhile at the real high standard of quality storytelling
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Sorry, but don't see any quality behind those few poligons with low res textures upon them.
And were did the lighting gone? Someone forgot to implement it in at least acceptible capacity?


Here's some better one's.

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It reminds me of Borderlands 2. So, I can't take it seriously... unless it was a comedic game!

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Sorry, but don't see any quality behind those few poligons with low res textures upon them.

Then you're literally judging a book by it's cover and not it's content

And were did the lighting gone? Someone forgot to implement it in at least acceptible capacity?

This scene in particular takes place on a cloudy morning, lens flares would be innappropriate here.

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Liamv2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Meanwhile at the real high standard of quality storytelling
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Sorry, but don't see any quality behind those few poligons with low res textures upon them.
And were did the lighting gone? Someone forgot to implement it in at least acceptible capacity?


Here's some better one's.

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An empty sample scene with this small drone form K:SF has much more polygons and much better textures and lighting than the whole final scenes with characters in TWD

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You can technically place the whole TWD world inside a K:SF dropship, and the dropship will still look much better :)

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And yet TWD's story is still better.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

And yet TWD's story is still better.

For emphasis.

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 ...speaking of dropships:
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Modifié par Seival, 19 décembre 2013 - 03:33 .