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The Harrier is greatest thing Bioware ever gave ME3MP


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megabeast37215

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It's simply perfect. The best job Bioware ever did on an ultra rare.

Perfectly balanced for an UR. (Great damage, good to great accuracy but sustained DPS is hurt by ammo limitations)
Perfectly weighted. (Medium weight, affects most cooldowns minimally)
Perfect feel. (Like an AR from most shooter games)
Lack of ramp up. (Means it's not prohibitive to use on power spammers/combo kits)
Just enough ammo to wipe a Gold spawn before a trip to an ammo box on the way to the next spawn. (If your aim doesn't suck)

They made us wait so long for a perfect Assault Rifle.. Hopefully they won't make the same mistake in ME4.

I love the Harrier... It is simply, the king of weapons in ME3MP. I never feel cheap using the Harrier like I do when I equip the Talon, Acolyte/CSMG combo, Hurricane, PPR, Reegar. I never feel that I'm gimping a caster when he/she equips a Harrier like I do when I equip the Claymore, Typhoon, Black Widow.

You can slopoke.jpg me all you want... The Harrier gets so much hate when all it deserves is love. It's one of the very few weapons Bioware got right.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 13 décembre 2013 - 11:03 .


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And yet people get all wet thinking about unlocking the Lancer.

Go figure.

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lol2stars

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+1, seriously. My favorite AR by FARRRR, and probably my favorite gun in general.

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Heldarion wrote...

And yet people get all wet thinking about unlocking the Lancer.

Go figure.


I still don't get the Lancer love... So many guns do its job better... And the spread is pretty bad unless you take hard cover or use accuracy kits. It does have a good sound/feel I'll give it that.

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Agreed .. awesome gun. I only use it on the Ghost however ...

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lolHarrier

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Eh, I think the ammo thing is overstated if you're getting a headshot medal and burst firing it. Any weapon that is effective the community feels is cheap usually. The Reegar is the only just abomination IMHO. Talon, Wraith, Harrier are just incredibly good and versatile.

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Mmm, Harrier's never been my cup of tea.

Buffing the wraith was the best thing they did that affected me.

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

lolHarrier


It owns LolVenom

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

Eh, I think the ammo thing is overstated if you're getting a headshot medal and burst firing it. Any weapon that is effective the community feels is cheap usually. The Reegar is the only just abomination IMHO. Talon, Wraith, Harrier are just incredibly good and versatile.


I think the Talon is a bit OP bc of the shield modifier while also breaking shield gate... The Wraith is pretty balanced, it could be 20% heavier IMO. 

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There are some maps that I dread seeing when I have the Harrier, like hazard dagger plat because of the ammo crates there, but other than that ammo isn't a big issue.

I will say that the Harrier feels just as cheap as the other weapons you listed though, at least same level as Talon or Hurricane.

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Geek Fest wrote...

There are some maps that I dread seeing when I have the Harrier, like hazard dagger plat because of the ammo crates there, but other than that ammo isn't a big issue.

I will say that the Harrier feels just as cheap as the other weapons you listed though, at least same level as Talon or Hurricane.


But those are 200% cooldown weapons with comparable DPS... If the Harrier weighed as much as the Lancer I'd agree.

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Seems to be balanced now, but 6 months ago, you could not go one day without reading a 10 page harrier nerf thread. What has changed, I wonder.

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Agree with Geek Fest on the cheapness thing.
It's on the same level as the listed weapons - the top tier.
Since they're all UR it's more or less balanced, since in reality only few people have maxed URs.
The only truly OP weapon is the Reegar.

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hmm...

I suppose the best trolls are the ones where one's unsure if serious...
but I've seen u state all those reasons to love the Harrier in various threads, OP.
and I do like those reasons.

I choose to believe. plus I LOVE this weapon on my Tsent...

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

There are some maps that I dread seeing when I have the Harrier, like hazard dagger plat because of the ammo crates there, but other than that ammo isn't a big issue.

I will say that the Harrier feels just as cheap as the other weapons you listed though, at least same level as Talon or Hurricane.


But those are 200% cooldown weapons with comparable DPS... If the Harrier weighed as much as the Lancer I'd agree.


200% cooldown is a little overrated and the Harrier isn't that heavy. I can see it mattering a tiny bit more on some kits but I still see them at the same level of OP. Certainly on an infiltrator cooldown is irrelevant between them.

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Geek Fest wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

There are some maps that I dread seeing when I have the Harrier, like hazard dagger plat because of the ammo crates there, but other than that ammo isn't a big issue.

I will say that the Harrier feels just as cheap as the other weapons you listed though, at least same level as Talon or Hurricane.


But those are 200% cooldown weapons with comparable DPS... If the Harrier weighed as much as the Lancer I'd agree.


200% cooldown is a little overrated and the Harrier isn't that heavy. I can see it mattering a tiny bit more on some kits but I still see them at the same level of OP. Certainly on an infiltrator cooldown is irrelevant between them.


On infiltrators that is certainly true... They also compensate for the Harriers lack of ammo by doubling the damage with Tac Cloak. This is not the case of other kits.

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Talon doesn't have the Harrier's range and DPS. Hurricane suffers from inaccuracy and therefore doesn't have the Harrier's range.
They're all more or less on the same level.
Liking or loving it is perfectly understandable but doesn't make it "less cheap" or significantly "more balanced" than the weapons mentioned.

Modifié par Max Dmian, 13 décembre 2013 - 11:47 .


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            Not sure if serious™

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

There are some maps that I dread seeing when I have the Harrier, like hazard dagger plat because of the ammo crates there, but other than that ammo isn't a big issue.

I will say that the Harrier feels just as cheap as the other weapons you listed though, at least same level as Talon or Hurricane.


But those are 200% cooldown weapons with comparable DPS... If the Harrier weighed as much as the Lancer I'd agree.


200% cooldown is a little overrated and the Harrier isn't that heavy. I can see it mattering a tiny bit more on some kits but I still see them at the same level of OP. Certainly on an infiltrator cooldown is irrelevant between them.


On infiltrators that is certainly true... They also compensate for the Harriers lack of ammo by doubling the damage with Tac Cloak. This is not the case of other kits.


Well it is no secret that balance is certainly thrown off by infiltrators. The Talon and Hurricane also get the same bonuses, they feel more OP on a GI than they do an adept. I see your point on non-infiltrators but I still think the harrier is on a similar level.

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The harrier is my favorite gun, and has been since I unlocked it. It may be loleasymode as it has no learning curve to it, but it just feels right to shoot. The damage is awesome, but I think the low ammo and weight balance it just fine.

I especially like it on grenade kits, since I'm running for ammo boxes anyway.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Leland Gaunt wrote...

lolHarrier


It owns LolVenom

STFU

OT: It sounds like sh!t and that's why I hate the Scruberus Carrier. 

Modifié par N7didacus, 13 décembre 2013 - 11:52 .


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DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

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^ That should be the OP