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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I cannot believe you just wrote this 3 hours ago !

...Harrier is the worst thing release in ME3 MP IMO.


LOL

I'm not sure if mega is trolling w/ this thread, he does sometimes.

But, I never knew you to troll so...I guess you must be serious.

LOL

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I love the Harrier. If it had a vagina, I'd name it "Harriet" and I'd massage her lower receiver after she's had a hard day of shooting Brutes in the face only to get online and find out that people are saying she's OP. Don't you listen to them, Harriet.

And then, I'd...

...what? Don't you dare judge me.


Post of the day.

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Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.

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ALTBOULI wrote...

No The Wraith is greatest thing Bioware ever gave ME3MP, followed closely by the Arc pistol


Both weapons got buffs that made them what they are. The Wraith was considered crap by pretty much all of BSN until that buff came along (which it deserved).

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.


Balanced by weight and ammo... Also... There are plenty of fine full auto weapons in this game.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.


Hasn't collectors always been a problem on ps3?

Anyways, you don't have to use the Harrier.

I like to use the Phaeston on the TGI because, ya know, it's a Turian weapon.

Still, this game badly needed the Harrier, I say.

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Personally I would have loved Harrier if its in-cover stability wasn`t an issue.

I`d say it`s balanced with Ammo only in Platinum, and this is being generous to Bioware.
Harrier is heavy, but its superior fire power is more than enough to make any cooldown loss worth it.

Nothing personal mega, but I feel like I am cheating when I use Harrier X...
so I only use it with certain characters I use for cheating play anyway.. (Ghost, Slasher, Huntress..)

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But it runs out of ammo faster than I can come up with reasons why I like it.

That's not a problem if you use the unlimited ammo glitch.

Here's the steps:
1. Take out your secondary weapon.
2. Wait until a boss appears.
3. Take out Harrier and kill the boss.
4. Switch back to secondary weapon and kill any remaining enemies.
5. End of wave, you'll get more ammo added to your Harrier.
6. Rinse and repeat.

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You are correct to say Harrier is the best for its functionality. It makes Volus Sentinel absolutely any game viable.

I just feel like this game would have been more fun with other AR being buffed even if we didn`t have Harrier.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

No The Wraith is greatest thing Bioware ever gave ME3MP, followed closely by the Arc pistol


Both weapons got buffs that made them what they are. The Wraith was considered crap by pretty much all of BSN until that buff came along (which it deserved).


But the fact remains that after these buffs the Wraith and Arc pistol are very well balanced and in skilled hands can outperform the Harrier. For me the CSR fills a simialr role to the Harrier (both in terms of DPS and weight) and since Ive got that maxed I havent really touched my Harrier 

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.


I disagree. Like all those other automatic weapons, Harriet the Harrier has a very specific role. In her case, that role is "To not entirely suck." Sure, the roles of many other automatiuc weapons are "To suck," but that's not Harriet's fault. Maybe somebody shouldn't have made so many weapons that suck.

I mean, look at it like this: nobody ever gets on Wonder Woman's case for looking hot in a combat swimsuit. Who cares if Red Sonja makes Joan of Arc look like a tomboy? Joan of Arc certainly doesn't care because she's dead. Nobody ever said to Red Sonja, "look, you're just way too sexy. You need to put on some pants if you want to keep stabbing evil sorcerors and witch-kings."

Do you want to force Harriet the Harrier to wear pants?

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ALTBOULI wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

No The Wraith is greatest thing Bioware ever gave ME3MP, followed closely by the Arc pistol


Both weapons got buffs that made them what they are. The Wraith was considered crap by pretty much all of BSN until that buff came along (which it deserved).


But the fact remains that after these buffs the Wraith and Arc pistol are very well balanced and in skilled hands can outperform the Harrier. For me the CSR fills a simialr role to the Harrier (both in terms of DPS and weight) and since Ive got that maxed I havent really touched my Harrier 


I'm a BIG CSR fan... But I still like the Harrier better because of the framerate loss/slowdown I get when scoped in sometimes, then there's the range cap which rears it's ugly head sometimes... But that's a minimal gripe. 

You could make the argument that the Arc Pistol is too good for its rarity... Since it outperforms several URs... But I do love that weapon.

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Strict31 wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.


I disagree. Like all those other automatic weapons, Harriet the Harrier has a very specific role. In her case, that role is "To not entirely suck." Sure, the roles of many other automatiuc weapons are "To suck," but that's not Harriet's fault. Maybe somebody shouldn't have made so many weapons that suck.

I mean, look at it like this: nobody ever gets on Wonder Woman's case for looking hot in a combat swimsuit. Who cares if Red Sonja makes Joan of Arc look like a tomboy? Joan of Arc certainly doesn't care because she's dead. Nobody ever said to Red Sonja, "look, you're just way too sexy. You need to put on some pants if you want to keep stabbing evil sorcerors and witch-kings."

Do you want to force Harriet the Harrier to wear pants?


Well, Harrier is there and we might as well as make best use out of it.

You are right about the fact it`s not Harrier`s fault to have some other ARs suck.

It`s at least good to see Harrier being put for good use in hands of both new / veteran players.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

N7 Banshee Bait wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Top 5 Weapons:

1. Wraith
2. Harrier
3. Talon
4. Hurricane
5. Black Widow



The Lancer X is easily the best gun in the game.  It's got high damage, high accuracy (you can snipe from across the map), with the extended thermal clip it doesn't run out of ammo & it sounds awesome.  While everybody wastes time reloading & running to ammo crates constantly  I  mow everything down care free. I hate reloading!


Please... That Lancer can't hold the Harrier's jockstrapin the DPS department... Or the accuracy department. 

You guys obsessed with the ammo situation just don't get it. You go to the spawn with your full ammo Harrier, kill everything, hit the nearest ammo box, head to the next spawn. It's that easy.

Example: Firebase White.. wipe the entire bottom spawn.. hit the bottom ammo box. Head over to the side ladder, wipe enemies, hit that ammo box, wipe the LZ clean, hit the top ammo box, wipe the inner lab, hit the ammo box at the bottom of the stairs. This is how to mitigate the ammo situation. It has enough ammo in it to wipe a spawn IF your aim doesn't suck. 

Also... You can take an Eagle or Hurricane sidearm for very, very little penalty.


I'm gonna be lame and quote myself because I don't want these facts to be missed by the Lancer fanboy club.

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Incorrect OP.

Krogans are the greatest thing Bioware gave to ME3MP. Hands down.

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if u need more spare ammo with the harrier to kill stuff. then you probably need your quads surgically removed

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Incorrect OP.

Krogans are the greatest thing Bioware gave to ME3MP. Hands down.


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Lancer can be more fun !
but Harrier is more often better gun.. because it simply kills thing much much faster.

I use Lancer with a lot of power characters for fun`s sake. I end up using a lot of cover & power.
I used to use Harrier with a lot of power character before ! I end up just killing things with Harrier...

In automatic AR category, Lancer is at least not fully replaceable by Harrier.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Strict31 wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Come on. Harrier literally make almost all (automatic) weapons obsolete unless for you are trying some variety.
It`s simply too good of a weapon.. and too much good = bad.

I am trying to come back to this game.. but I had 4 collector games frozen out of 10.. so it`s killing my spirit.


I disagree. Like all those other automatic weapons, Harriet the Harrier has a very specific role. In her case, that role is "To not entirely suck." Sure, the roles of many other automatiuc weapons are "To suck," but that's not Harriet's fault. Maybe somebody shouldn't have made so many weapons that suck.

I mean, look at it like this: nobody ever gets on Wonder Woman's case for looking hot in a combat swimsuit. Who cares if Red Sonja makes Joan of Arc look like a tomboy? Joan of Arc certainly doesn't care because she's dead. Nobody ever said to Red Sonja, "look, you're just way too sexy. You need to put on some pants if you want to keep stabbing evil sorcerors and witch-kings."

Do you want to force Harriet the Harrier to wear pants?


Well, Harrier is there and we might as well as make best use out of it.

You are right about the fact it`s not Harrier`s fault to have some other ARs suck.

It`s at least good to see Harrier being put for good use in hands of both new / veteran players.


Harriet wants me to tell you she appreciates your kind words. But I kinda have to go. See, it's our anniversary, and she wants to...

What's that, baby? Collectors? FB Glacier Hazard Platinum? Well somebody's feeling frisky tonight...

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IamZAE wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Incorrect OP.

Krogans are the greatest thing Bioware gave to ME3MP. Hands down.


cain mines


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megabeast37215 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

N7 Banshee Bait wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Top 5 Weapons:

1. Wraith
2. Harrier
3. Talon
4. Hurricane
5. Black Widow



The Lancer X is easily the best gun in the game.  It's got high damage, high accuracy (you can snipe from across the map), with the extended thermal clip it doesn't run out of ammo & it sounds awesome.  While everybody wastes time reloading & running to ammo crates constantly  I  mow everything down care free. I hate reloading!


Please... That Lancer can't hold the Harrier's jockstrapin the DPS department... Or the accuracy department. 

You guys obsessed with the ammo situation just don't get it. You go to the spawn with your full ammo Harrier, kill everything, hit the nearest ammo box, head to the next spawn. It's that easy.

Example: Firebase White.. wipe the entire bottom spawn.. hit the bottom ammo box. Head over to the side ladder, wipe enemies, hit that ammo box, wipe the LZ clean, hit the top ammo box, wipe the inner lab, hit the ammo box at the bottom of the stairs. This is how to mitigate the ammo situation. It has enough ammo in it to wipe a spawn IF your aim doesn't suck. 

Also... You can take an Eagle or Hurricane sidearm for very, very little penalty.


I'm gonna be lame and quote myself because I don't want these facts to be missed by the Lancer fanboy club.

Mega the reason people are obsessed about the ammo capacity issue is because Harriet orgasms too quick. While we all respect you and Zaeed's opinion of her, she could use a bit more capacity. I'm no big fan of the Lancelot, but Harriet has her shortcomings that make her less than the ideal woman to have on your shoulder (strap).

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Lancer can be more fun !
but Harrier is more often better gun.. because it simply kills thing much much faster.

I use Lancer with a lot of power characters for fun`s sake. I end up using a lot of cover & power.
I used to use Harrier with a lot of power character before ! I end up just killing things with Harrier...

In automatic AR category, Lancer is at least not fully replaceable by Harrier.


I would agree with you if the CSMG didn't crap all over it in pretty much every catagory.

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The Harrier is the AK-47 of me3 when I see that gun in a lobby it tells me someone just wants to kill everything and that's fine with me.You start ripping off head shots (yeah team)the match can go quickly.For those of us you have played for a looonngg time the Harrier can get boring,don't take that the wrong way I do like the gun its married to my Demolisher at this time.What I'm trying to say is sometimes folks go for style and its hard to go for style when you bring a hammer to the party.Also enjoy the Lancer and Spitfire nothing like making those phantom hookers take a gungasm to the face....

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Yeah, CSMG does have its own story.
Lancer may never be better than CSMG overall, but Lancer at least feels better definitely :)

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Yeah, CSMG does have its own story.
Lancer may never be better than CSMG overall, but Lancer at least feels better definitely :)


Agreed. The Lancer definitely wins in the feel department between those two.