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The Harrier is greatest thing Bioware ever gave ME3MP


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I like Harrier and PPR pretty much equally since they can be useful on many classes. Typhoon is great on a class you want to use as a weapons platform rather than power spamming, so it has its restrictions. Saber is however pretty good too, but mostly for mooks. Harrier, PPR and Typhoon outshine it for bosses. And Lancer sucks, at least for me.

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robarcool wrote...

I like Harrier and PPR pretty much equally since they can be useful on many classes. Typhoon is great on a class you want to use as a weapons platform rather than power spamming, so it has its restrictions. Saber is however pretty good too, but mostly for mooks. Harrier, PPR and Typhoon outshine it for bosses. And Lancer sucks, at least for me.


Of course it sucks. It`s just lighter.

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Yes.  Without it the ARs would be pathetic and still are something to fix for ME4

Still too heavy and not enough ammo

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It is the best weapon in the game for most kits. The CSMG and Talon are better on some caster kits because of their versatilty.
Weight , ammo and the ability to eqip a power mod gives these weapons an advantage over the Harrier for various kits

Modifié par stricko, 16 décembre 2013 - 04:51 .


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Why does this game continue to troll me. ~305 hours, almost 1000 games. Still no harrier in sight. I have about 30 rare weapon/character cards left to get, so should I just keep buying SPs until I have them all, THEN move to PSPs/APs?

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I almost never use it. I vastly prefer the other weapons in the same league- Wraith, Hurricane, Talon. I only stick it on my MQI for ultimate-cheese Plat PUG carrying.

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MR CauSe iM GoD wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

N7 Banshee Bait wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Top 5 Weapons:

1. Wraith
2. Harrier
3. Talon
4. Hurricane
5. Black Widow



The Lancer X is easily the best gun in the game.  It's got high damage, high accuracy (you can snipe from across the map), with the extended thermal clip it doesn't run out of ammo & it sounds awesome.  While everybody wastes time reloading & running to ammo crates constantly  I  mow everything down care free. I hate reloading!



 
LOL. Lancer doesn't even make it into the top ten if we're talking DPS. I like the Lancer and it's awesome on a few kits but it can't hold a candle to any of the weapons FTL mentioned. 


Only on a few kits. Tell a kit that the Lancer, doesn't do well with, with the exception of aHuman Sodier spec'd into AR. The Lancer can be a monster on any kit. It is the only gun I use with my Valkryie. Light  weight and easy to use. 

I will agree that it is not a DPS monster. But to say it is only good on a few kits, I laugh at that. 

I didn't say the Lancer wouldn't work on any kit, it's just there are several weapons that are better on those kits than the Lancer. There are a few kits that are perfect for the Lancer IMHO.

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planehazza wrote...

Why does this game continue to troll me. ~305 hours, almost 1000 games. Still no harrier in sight. I have about 30 rare weapon/character cards left to get, so should I just keep buying SPs until I have them all, THEN move to PSPs/APs?


Yes.

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I got bored of it too quickly. Only time I ever use it now is for speed runs then again, I always pack that and the venom anyways. I'll stick with the PPR or the lancer even.

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So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... Words cannot express how trash it was compared to the Harrier. It seems to have like, half the damage.. and the spread was simply awful in comparison. Other than the sound... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.

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Actually, I want to further explain why I feel this way. People say, "Herp a derp... I spend all this time going to ammo boxes, while the Lancer keeps me in the fight." Well... I don't spend HALF my time going to ammo boxes, I don't even spend a quarter of my time going to ammo boxes... I seldom have to go out of my way for ammo, and there's these things called thermal clip packs that work in a pinch (like Hack Circles). Therefore, in the DPS race that is, Platinum... The Lancer can't even carry the Harrier's jockstrap.

...and as I said before, spread.

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The Harrier is a great weapon, I just don't enjoy using it on too many builds, it gets boring quickly.
It's sometimes fun to destroy everything with the Quarksman/Harrier combo though.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... Words cannot express how trash it was compared to the Harrier. It seems to have like, half the damage.. and the spread was simply awful in comparison. Other than the sound... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.


Agreed.  The Harrier is the only thing Bioware got right for AR's.

And that only came after much complaining to Bioware devs that AR's were a joke in ME3MP. 

From a dev, there was/is an internal bias against the AR family at Bioware.  Nothing conspiratorial, just a preference of other types of weapons vs. the AR.  I think other than the Harrier, this bias is clearly evident in the game.

EDIT: And why does the Typhoon eject heat sinks like spent shell casings from an LMG?  Way to break the tech lore fellas. <_<

Modifié par GhostKnife72, 16 décembre 2013 - 03:27 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... Words cannot express how trash it was compared to the Harrier. It seems to have like, half the damage.. and the spread was simply awful in comparison. Other than the sound... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.



Then you guys don't know how to use it. I feel sorry for you. I dominate every game with the Lancer. Easily the most kick ass gun in the game!  The Harrier is great for running out of ammo every 2 seconds, but thats about all it's good for. Even with the extended thermal clip it still sucks.

99% of you don't even know how to use the N7 Shadow properly so I can't really expect much here.  

Modifié par N7 Banshee Bait, 16 décembre 2013 - 03:33 .


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N7 Banshee Bait wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... Words cannot express how trash it was compared to the Harrier. It seems to have like, half the damage.. and the spread was simply awful in comparison. Other than the sound... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.



Then you guys don't know how to use it. I feel sorry for you. I dominate every game with the Lancer. Easily the most kick ass gun in the game!  The Harrier is great for running out of ammo every 2 seconds, but thats about all it's good for.

:blink:

It just goes to show you. Even if you make a thread that is concrete fact, post it on BSN and there will always be someone to argue with! :D

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It was perfectly designed for an Ultra Rare Worth the time investment to level it up and incredibly strong. the ammo issue is nonsense on any map that isn't dagger hazard.

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heroicmass wrote...

It was perfectly designed for an Ultra Rare Worth the time investment to level it up and incredibly strong. the ammo issue is nonsense on any map that isn't dagger hazard.


100% correct.  Never had an issue with ammo and the Harrier.

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GhostKnife72 wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

It was perfectly designed for an Ultra Rare Worth the time investment to level it up and incredibly strong. the ammo issue is nonsense on any map that isn't dagger hazard.


100% correct.  Never had an issue with ammo and the Harrier.



I will bring it out occasionally now to feel ridiculously strong.  It reminds me of the good old Team Arelex days as I pop heads across the battlefield.

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heroicmass wrote...

GhostKnife72 wrote...

heroicmass wrote...

It was perfectly designed for an Ultra Rare Worth the time investment to level it up and incredibly strong. the ammo issue is nonsense on any map that isn't dagger hazard.


100% correct.  Never had an issue with ammo and the Harrier.



I will bring it out occasionally now to feel ridiculously strong.  It reminds me of the good old Team Arelex days as I pop heads across the battlefield.


If you want nostalgia....rock a Salarian Engineer with a Mattock on FBW with Geth. :o

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megabeast37215 wrote...  So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.

I also did back-to-back runs with my Harrier V versus my Lancer VIII  on the TGI -- sure the Harrier kills (slightly) faster but what a relief not to be running around to ammo boxes.  Maybe if I ever get the Harrier to VIII or above I'll like it.

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Maurader Sackboy wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...  So... I took the Lancer out on a Thunderdumb duo with a friend on my TGI... That thing is poop in comparison to the Harrier.

I also did back-to-back runs with my Harrier V versus my Lancer VIII  on the TGI -- sure the Harrier kills (slightly) faster but what a relief not to be running around to ammo boxes.  Maybe if I ever get the Harrier to VIII or above I'll like it.


Harrier X is phenomenal.

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On second thought, I'm glad you guys never figured out how OP the Lancer is. When it was first released I was positive they would nerf it. All I ever said to my friends was "you better enjoy it before it gets nerfed". But thankfully, most people couldn't unlock it which bought a lot of time. And the ones that did get it never realized how awesome it is. Now they're not nerfing anything anymore & those of us that know how awesome the Lancer is are safe.

So yeah, keep using your NO-AMMO Harrier! Keep thinking the Harrier is the best! Go Harrier!

For the few of us that know better, Lancer is the way to go!  Lancer & Collector SMG are the only guys I use anymore. No more ammo crates & reloading for me! The Lancer & Collector SMG combined with powers are OP as hell!

Modifié par N7 Banshee Bait, 16 décembre 2013 - 04:31 .


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N7 Banshee Bait wrote...

On second thought, I'm glad you guys never figured out how OP the Lancer is. When it was first released I was positive they would nerf it. All I ever said to my friends was "you better enjoy it before it gets nerfed". But thankfully, most people couldn't unlock it which bought a lot of time. And the ones that did get it never realized how awesome it is. Now they're not nerfing anything anymore & those of us that know how awesome the Lancer is are safe.

So yeah, keep using your NO-AMMO Harrier! Keep thinking the Harrier is the best! Go Harrier!

For the few of us that know better, Lancer is the way to go!  Lancer & Collector SMG are the only guys I use anymore. No more ammo crates & reloading for me! The Lancer & Collector SMG combined with powers are OP as hell!

LOL.

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Lancer is way way better OP fail

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If we are talking about TGI then my money goes to Lancer. Continuous shooting with his cloak and stability bonuses just make the gun much more useful than harrier with ammo box trips (especially on platinum and certain fugged up maps).

Other than that the harrier is the only true assault rifle in this game, it just feels right and has the right dps clipsize rate.

Modifié par Ares_GoW, 16 décembre 2013 - 05:08 .