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[Zombie_Alexis]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

While I fear we're going to get playersexual romances again - oh joy - all I want is consistent characterization between the different playthroughs. No more instances where a character is blatantly gay in one route and barely mentions it in another.

Really? Huh. I actually like it when different events/reactions/dialogue happen in different playthroughs. Including changes in character romances. Makes replay all the better, in my opinion. But ymmv.

[Shark17676]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

"straight male characters got the kick to the curb"

HAhahahahahahahaha... I didn't read the OP, except the title the first time through. Straight male characters have never once got the short end of the stick in any Bioware game I have ever played. The very idea! XD Sorry OP, I just don't buy that. At all. But thanks for the laugh.

Fixed.

[General TSAR]

Rebel Wolf wrote...
Be nice if Varric became a LI,

Hell No.

Bianca is his one and only soulmate. 

[The Elder King]

Hazegurl wrote...

I want all romanceable companions to be available to both genders. It's not Bw's fault some people don't know how to role play on a role playing game.

Bioware's stance on the matter seems different, though. Gaider stated that his goal was always to give multiple choices to everyone, not all the LI available to everyone. The reason why they went in DA2 route (and it'd be the same for DAI, if they follow DA2 route) was because it was a compromise between his/their favourite approach (multiple LI with different sexualities and multiple choices for everyone) and the fact that they had/have limited resources.

[Gold Dragon]

dragondreamer wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

In DA:O, we had the perfect balance of LIs

AHAHAHAHAHAHA....no.

Actually, DA:O had the romances perfectly.

there are only 4 basic types: Straight Male, Straight Female, Male Bi, Female Bi.

Alistair was the Straight Male.  True, he's paranoid about his parantage, and definitely needs hardening, but he's Female Only.

Morrigan was the Straight Female.  True, she's an Evil B***h, but only male characters get a chance at her (and afterwards, even ENJOYS being dumped), regardless of the Dark Ritual.

Zevran is Male Bi-sexual.  Assassin, tried to kill you, and the only non-human available, but either gender can get him.

Leliana is the Female Bi-sexual.  Actually, she's more leaning towards Les, but she WILL allow a man to romance, and even with sex.

What other type is there?  Personalities differ, but it all boils down to that...

And several one night stands.  but that isn't really romance.  It's opportunistic.

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 15 décembre 2013 - 02:24 .

[sandalisthemaker]

General TSAR wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...
Be nice if Varric became a LI,

Hell No.

Bianca is his one and only soulmate. 

As long as we're talking about the crossbow, then I agree.

[CuriousArtemis]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

How about people that complain they want more meaningful choices and better characterization but draw the line when it comes to "PC X might not sleep with me ;_;".

That would indeed be equally hypocritcal; as for myself, I've never complained about choices or characterization in BW games. I love BW's writing in both ME and DA series, and for me, their characters are top notch. Definitely no complaints here.

[Hellion Rex]

A Golden Dragon wrote...
Actually, DA:O had the romances perfectly.

there are only 4 basic types: Straight Male, Straight Female, Male Bi, Female Bi.

Alistair was the Straight Male.  True, he's paranoid about his parantage, and definitely needs hardening, but he's Female Only.

Morrigan was the Straight Female.  True, she's an Evil B***h, but only male characters get a chance at her (and afterwards, even ENJOYS being dumped), regardless of the Dark Ritual.

Zevran is Male Bi-sexual.  Assassin, tried to kill you, and the only non-human available, but either gender can get him.

Leliana is the Female Bi-sexual.  Actually, she's more leaning towards Les, but she WILL allow a man to romance, and even with sex.

What other type is there?  Personalities differ, but it all boils down to that...

And several one night stands.  but that isn't really romance.  It's opportunistic.

Yeah, but if you had wanted a s/s romance, you got stuck with only one possible romance option. And I love how you attempt to boil all their personalities into one single sentence, which hardly represents their entire character.

[Plaintiff]

A Golden Dragon wrote...
What other type is there?

You really have to ask this? You're unaware of the existence of sexualities other than "straight" and "bisexual"?

[Hellion Rex]

MasterScribe wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Morrigan was the Straight Female.  True, she's an Evil B***h, but only male characters get a chance at her (and afterwards, even ENJOYS being dumped), regardless of the Dark Ritual.

That's an oversimplification. She's alot more complex than that.

Don't nobody pigeonhole my baby mama.

Nobody calls my sister a B*tch.

[daveliam]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

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Actually, DA:O had the romances perfectly.

there are only 4 basic types: Straight Male, Straight Female, Male Bi, Female Bi.

So let's do the math:  Straight male - two options, Straight female - two options, Gay male - 1 option, Gay Female - 1 option. 

Seriously, this seems perfect to you?  Not even "good enough" or "fine", but perfect?  So some people get a choice and some people get no choice and just have to deal with it?  This is perfect?  smh

[sandalisthemaker]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

In DA:O, we had the perfect balance of LIs

AHAHAHAHAHAHA....no.

Actually, DA:O had the romances perfectly.

there are only 4 basic types: Straight Male, Straight Female, Male Bi, Female Bi.

Alistair was the Straight Male.  True, he's paranoid about his parantage, and definitely needs hardening, but he's Female Only.

Morrigan was the Straight Female.  True, she's an Evil B***h, but only male characters get a chance at her (and afterwards, even ENJOYS being dumped), regardless of the Dark Ritual.

Zevran is Male Bi-sexual.  Assassin, tried to kill you, and the only non-human available, but either gender can get him.

Leliana is the Female Bi-sexual.  Actually, she's more leaning towards Les, but she WILL allow a man to romance, and even with sex.

What other type is there?  Personalities differ, but it all boils down to that...

And several one night stands.  but that isn't really romance.  It's opportunistic.

2/10

[Hellion Rex]

sandalisthemaker wrote...
2/10

He deserves a 0.

[Gold Dragon]

eluvianix wrote..

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Morrigan was the Straight Female.  True, she's an Evil B***h,

Nobody calls my sister a B*tch.

I just did.

As for the one sentence, I was actually adressing the biggest complaints (Alistair being Whiny, Morrigan's Attitude, etc....) not describing the full char.

[sandalisthemaker]

eluvianix wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
2/10

He deserves a 0.

I was rating his attempt at trolling, hun.

[zMataxa]

Hazegurl wrote...

I want all romanceable companions to be available to both genders. It's not Bw's fault some people don't know how to role play on a role playing game.

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[daveliam]

To be honest, I've never felt that totally numeric equity is the most important thing here. I've always just wanted a choice. So for me, DA 2 and ME 3 were both fine (neither perfect, but acceptable) because everyone got choices. Yes, some of us got considerably fewer choices in ME 3, but that didn't both me because I liked having choice (and, admittedly, liked both of the options) AND a gay only male option for the first time. I would be disappointed if I didn't have access to the guy I wanted, but I'd get over it. For instance if Vega was the bi option and Kaidan was straight, I'd be bummed because I prefer Kaidan, but I'd be happy still to choose between Vega and Steve.

I feel the same with DA. DA: O was a giant letdown around this one component for me because I didn't get a choice and I actively disliked the only option. The rest of the game was pretty amazing but I always thought that they could have done the s/s romances better in that game so I was fine with the DA 2 approach because it allowed me choice, which I really think is important in this type of game.

I know Gaider wants to go the ME 3 route but is restricted by finances so I'm fine with keeping the all bisexual approach since everyone gets a choice, which seems fair to me given that we've all paid the same money for the game.

[Gold Dragon]

As for the bi-sexual/players-sexual thing, I am fine with it.

I just don't want everyone to be easily bedded, so to speak.

[zMataxa]

LOL! Masterscribe, you're so practical. Even willing to become a nug - well that's a "git er done" attitude.
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[zMataxa]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

As for the bi-sexual/players-sexual thing, I am fine with it.

I just don't want everyone to be easily bedded, so to speak.

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Now that post is golden.

[sandalisthemaker]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

As for the bi-sexual/players-sexual thing, I am fine with it.

I just don't want everyone to be easily bedded, so to speak.

Morrigan is easily bedded (if male) in your "perfect" DAO LI setup.

[zMataxa]

MasterScribe wrote...
Crap, it's DLC. Gotta pay extra for it.

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