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Will Mass Effect 4 Be The Same To You Without Shepard?


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#51
GreatBlueHeron

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I'm looking forward to the new game and I'm glad Shep's story is over. Time for something new. I enjoy playing 1 throgh 3, but I can't wait for a new story. New, new, new....otherwise the next game will be stale. There's so much potential--no need for BioWare to use ANY of the old characters.

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Shepard is not needed.

Mass Effect for me was always about aliens.

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A universe is not just one person. Equally, to me, Mass Effect was not just Shepard. So I'm interested to see where they take the series, and I'll probably be along for the ride.

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I'd love more of Shepard and crew (crew in particular), and I can't say that I'm really all that bothered about a new game without them (thanks for putting me off ME3), but it's time for a new story with new characters.

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Anything about Shepard would be redunant - what's s/he going to do, sit around in the apartment having saved the galaxy? Better leave it to any headcanon - or, if anyone actually WANT to see Shepard in the apartment, import the character into Sims...

I do think however, there is a lot of other ground to cover, like the first Contact war for example.

Mass Effect is one of very few games that has a solid, more-or-less scientific ground to stand on, and that makes an excellent start - quite a few games have needed to retcon stuff in following games, but the Mass Effect is quite (not entirely) free from that.

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iakus wrote...

I was fine with a new character after the trilogy before.

Now, given what horrible things they did to Shepard and Shepard's story, I don't WANT whatever comes next to have anything to do with Shep.


Same here.

Unfortunately, this also makes it almost impossible for me to WANT to emotionally invest in another character the way that I did with Shepard. No point, when there's every chance that you'll have the rug pulled out from under you at the last minute again. Art>Everything = No thanks.

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After the Priority Earth and beyond trainwreck I don't think I'll ever look at the series the same way again. 

I mean sure I'm excited at the prospect of seeing familiar faces like the Turians, Salarians, Krogan, Quarians/Geth (I doubt they'd fade away considering just how many people like them), but I'll always remember just how bad the series could be when Walters and Hudson snorted all the coke and thought they should do a poor attempt at an "artsy" end instead of a "good" end to such a great trilogy.

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I can't answer simply. "Shepard" isn't really one character to me. He/she is potentially 20 or so characters. Or a number of those characters at least. Shepard is "Shepard", plus the squad you played most with and/or thought fleshed out how you experienced Mass Effect. And to answer the question, this can't be replaced. You can't just slap something different together and expect similar results. That isn't to say there won't be good results though. As long as there's talented people around, good things will happen. It just won't be the same.

Hell, even ME3 redefined "Shepard" to me by excluding so many elements I got attached to, and it wasn't the same as what I was used to. I imagine ME4 will do something even more removed than what I've been used to.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 15 décembre 2013 - 04:20 .


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I enjoyed the Mass Effect novels written by Drew Karpyshyn well enough without Shepard in them. I'm willing to invest in a new character, as long as BioWare fixes the universe.

Seems to me that creating a canon world-state from high EMS red + Geth survival, fast forwarding 20 years, and using some BS cop out like "much of what happened at the end of the war is difficult to determine, as each of the participating races has advanced their own version of events" is the way to go.

Just return the universe to a recognizable state with all of its iconic elements (races, Citadel, relays, etc.) intact, and move forward. We all know that ME3 was screwed up, so looking back is not gonna make anyone happy.

Modifié par durasteel, 15 décembre 2013 - 05:14 .


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I didn't know Shepard when I started Mass Effect. She grew on me because of all the things I "experienced" with her.
I will see about the next ME, but I assume another blank slate will be able to grow on me as well, if executed well enough.
OP, do you have other favourite videogames? Or favourite movies? You didn't know all those characters when you started into their respective stories. So just assume it might work with a new ME, too ... and if you simply cannot imagine that, well, have a look around, there might be other titles or franchises to captivate you, too. ;)

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I greatly enjoyed running around in the ME universe and would like to do it again. Ultimately, however, it depends on how enjoyable the game is to play.

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Same here.

Unfortunately, this also makes it almost impossible for me to WANT to emotionally invest in another character the way that I did with Shepard. No point, when there's every chance that you'll have the rug pulled out from under you at the last minute again. Art>Everything = No thanks.


Exactly

That us the first thing Bioware needs to answer to me if they want my money is "how do I know you are not gonna do the same thing with my new character? Because honestly I had enough of "I am sorry, you die" forced BS at the end.

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Funny thing to worry about. Three of my Shepards are alive.

Modifié par AlanC9, 15 décembre 2013 - 07:05 .


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I think they already took a lot of control by killing Shep the first time around (and forcing you with Cerberus. Not to mention making Liara stranger than she ever was.. and you having to like it). As much as I don't like ME3's ending, these were worse.

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A new MC is preferred so long as everyone else is new, too.

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crimzontearz

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[/quote]Funny thing to worry about. Three of my Shepards are alive. [/quote]

Oh you want it worded better? Ok "how do I know you are not going to give the people who want to finish the game with a living protagonist the artistic middle finger and offer them bull**** open endedness and WAY less closure than the others"?

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Much better.

Modifié par AlanC9, 15 décembre 2013 - 08:49 .


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As long as there's Quarians, yes.

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Turians, Quarians, Salarian and Krogan, yes.

Modifié par trenq, 15 décembre 2013 - 09:00 .


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I don't see myself buying ME games anymore cause all they seem to be are prequels that will eventually get really stale. Prequel stories in ME will not appeal to me that much as no matter how "epic" they are, they will probably match the importance of the Reaper invasion. If prequels like the First Contact War or a story about a whatever a random guy did before Shepard's time are all we have to look forward to then I'll probably quit ME. If they are going to do stories that take place after ME3 or in an AU, then I would be fully interested in buying the next game, I don't like being bitter like this but really does feel as whatever happens before ME3 will be overshadowed by the importance of the Reaper War.

The future of ME doesn't look that good to me because all it seems is to be prequels. I'm happy to play another protagonist so long as they do not live in Shepard's shadow.

Modifié par Karlone123, 15 décembre 2013 - 09:01 .


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Karlone123 wrote...

I don't see myself buying ME games anymore cause all they seem to be are prequels that will eventually get really stale. Prequel stories in ME will not appeal to me that much as no matter how "epic" they are, they will probably match the importance of the Reaper invasion. If prequels like the First Contact War or a story about a whatever a random guy did before Shepard's time are all we have to look forward to then I'll probably quit ME. If they are going to do stories that take place after ME3 or in an AU, then I would be fully interested in buying the next game, I don't like being bitter like this but really does feel as whatever happens before ME3 will be overshadowed by the importance of the Reaper War.

The future of ME doesn't look that good to me because all it seems is to be prequels. I'm happy to play another protagonist so long as they do not live in Shepard's shadow.


Fully agree with you, and couldn't have said it better myself.

The only prequel I could possibly be interested in would be one where you get to play Shepard's background (earthborn, only survivor vanguard maybe?), but that would just put demands on updating ME1.

Which would be fantastic.

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I'm interested in seeing more (hopefully good) stories within the MEverse. Whilst it's a shame Shepard's arc is over (and went out on a somewhat sour note), I feel as a protagonist they've run their course. The games take place within a gargantuan, and at this point very fleshed out universe, so there's no shortage of places it could go next.

My bigger issue is how ME4 is going to be as epic in scope as its predecessors. The previous three were dealing with the end of all life as we know it, so how exactly do you up the ante from there?

Modifié par Shadrach 88, 15 décembre 2013 - 09:27 .


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Shadrach 88 wrote...

I'm interested in seeing more (hopefully good) stories within the MEverse. Whilst it's a shame Shepard's arc is over (and went out on a somewhat sour note), I feel as a protagonist they've run their course. The games take place within a gargantuan, and at this point very fleshed out universe, so there's no shortage of places it could go next.

My bigger issue is how ME4 is going to be as epic in scope as its predecessors. The previous three were dealing with the end of all life as we know it, so how exactly do you up the ante from there?


I do not have any problems with any stories bioware chose to do so long as it takes after the events of ME3. It's the same with the Blight in DA, it was the most important thing to happen in recent history but now it has been dealt with and there are still many problems to come. With ME, the reapers are the most important thing in ME and whatever happens before that really does not matter. I hope this is something Bioware will consider if they try to sell us a game with a story that takes place before ME3, as it would feel instantly diminished.

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Hard to answer such a question without the actual game released. It all depends on the next title, the new pratagonist etc.

If the game is bad - No.
If the game is good - Yes.

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Shadrach 88 wrote...
My bigger issue is how ME4 is going to be as epic in scope as its predecessors. The previous three were dealing with the end of all life as we know it, so how exactly do you up the ante from there?


It can't be. Trying to outdo the original trilogy's scope is a non-starter. Any new story would need to be a much more intimate affair.

I'm still yet to hear a realistic idea for a new game in the ME universe that I like.