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[The Twilight God]

Personally, unless certain things are revealed in ME4 which, in a sense completed the ending of ME3, I wouldn't play it anyway. I wouldn't even get the ME3 DLC after the conclusion of ME3 and haven't touched any of the games since. I can't even bring myself to play any ME even with the MEHEM mod out there.

On one hand... I honestly don't see the point in a new protagonist. Shepard doesn't really have a personality. He (or she) has a voice. The dialog options kind of negate the sense of a strong consistent protagonist. In order to keep it mass effect the new guy will also have differing dialog options making a strong definitive character equally impossible. Shepard is defined, as a character, as "badass". Not by personality. The new guy will be badass too. Given the character creation you'd more than likely just make another guy or gal that looks just like your Shepard. Only the voice will change. So I can see it being odd... at first.

On the other hand... I understand the need for a fresh (default) face and fresh companions. You just can't juggle the divergent circumstances from 3 game's worth of decisions and interpersonal relationships. If ME3 was any indication they aren't willing to put in the work to juggle two game's worth. Did you really expect to see ME6 starring Shepard that accounts for all the myriad of choices and character interactions from five preceding games? That's the trade off with a dialog wheel and actual commitment to carry over past actions, unlike the DA team which says your choices aren't canon.

[AlanC9]

The Twilight God wrote...
Given the character creation you'd more than likely just make another guy or gal that looks just like your Shepard.

Just like which one of them?

[Dean_the_Young]

Having stepped into new personality-less protagonist roles with new setting-focuses and NPC companions several times over the years (and three times in the ME trilogy), I suspect I'll manage.

Given character creation systems and the general projection role of Bioware RPG protagonists, past the exceptionally symbollic name there's not anything particularly unique about Shepard. Given that Shepard specifically could have been replaced in ME2 and ME3 and the plots run much the same, I suspect the only reason I'll remember I'm not still playing Shepard come ME4 is because of the NPCs calling me by some other identifier.

[Jared Shepard]

I don't know what I will do with the next Mass Effect. I was a big fan of Metal Gear all the way back to the 80's with the original 8 bit games and after MGS4 ended Snake's story, I have not gone back and there really aren't any ideas that have me really excited about the future of that franchise either. I may try the next ME game but I will not put in near the time and thorough exploration that I did into the story of Shepard. Shepard is my favorite video game character ever and I've played a lot of games for a lot of years.
Almost 2 years after the end of the trilogy....I still find myself cruising over these message boards.

[thebigbad1013]

Will it be the same? Probably not. The original trilogy was designed to be all about Shepard's story so we don't really know what a Mass Effect game will be like without Shepard, but I'm certainly willing to give it a try. Honestly I'm not that concerned with Shepard not being in the game--I'm much more concerned about how they are planning to handle the state of the galaxy if the game turns out ot be a sequel.

[dreamgazer]

Going with a different, (hopefully) non-military protagonist would be a big step in the right direction.

You are only in love with your head canon

The more I read this board, the more I strongly agree with this.

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Will it be the same? Nope. It'll be even better.

It would be very hard for them to do worse, I'll give you that 

I hope that's sarcasm...

It absolutely is not.  I want to know why I should bother to get invested in another Mass Effect character after what happened in ME3.

[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

I want to know why I should bother to get invested in another Mass Effect character after what happened in ME3.

You probably shouldn't. 

[Mcfly616]

Arcian wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Will it be the same? Nope. It'll be even better.

It would be very hard for them to do worse, I'll give you that 

I hope that's sarcasm...

You liking bad things don't make them good things.

You saying something is bad, doesn't make it so...

[Mcfly616]

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Will it be the same? Nope. It'll be even better.

It would be very hard for them to do worse, I'll give you that 

I hope that's sarcasm...

It absolutely is not.  I want to know why I should bother to get invested in another Mass Effect character after what happened in ME3.

your reasons for not getting invested with the next game aren't exactly relatable to "it would be very hard for them to do worse".


Each game in the trilogy is one of the best games of the last decade (each garnering numerous awards). Sorry, but something that 'can't be any worse' doesn't receive that type of praise throughout the videogame industry.


If anything, it's going to be difficult to meet the level of success of the previous games

Modifié par Mcfly616, 17 décembre 2013 - 02:53 .

[dreamgazer]

(laughs)

We all run the risk of liking "bad things", and if potential plot holes are your problem, then I wouldn't look too closely at a lot of films well-regarded by the public.

[Rusty Sandusky]

I do believe that BioWare is going to Assassin's Creedify this series, still not sure whether that's good or bad.

[Rusty Sandusky]

StreetMagic wrote...

ThisOnesUsername wrote...

I do believe that BioWare is going to Assassin's Creedify this series, still not sure whether that's good or bad.

What does that mean? I've only played the first two.. not getting the reference.

Make the series continuous but with a different spin on the same formula each time with varying results.

So maybe we'd see a Mass Effect IV: Black Flag about space pirates in the Terminus Systems.

Modifié par ThisOnesUsername, 17 décembre 2013 - 03:04 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Will it be the same? Nope. It'll be even better.

It would be very hard for them to do worse, I'll give you that 

I hope that's sarcasm...

You liking bad things don't make them good things.

You saying something is bad, doesn't make it so...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

Who determines that, then? Critics? Awards?

[trenq]

you

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

Who determines that, then? Critics? Awards?

I'm pointing out the subjective nature of statements made here.

No one can really objectively determine that beyond mass appeal or mass opinion. And even then it can be subjective.

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

Who determines that, then? Critics? Awards?

I'm pointing out the subjective nature of statements made here.

No one can really objectively determine that beyond mass appeal or mass opinion. And even then it can be subjective.

Precisely, especially the bolded. IMDB and Metacritic are depressing representations of this. 

The only concrete, semi-"objective" figure we can go by is sales, which is amusing in itself.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 17 décembre 2013 - 03:30 .

[lady_v23]

Idk. It will certainly be different. I'm pretty sure I will be very critical with the new protagonist, but if there's a renegade option, then I'll be fine.

[Rusty Sandusky]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

Who determines that, then? Critics? Awards?

I'm pointing out the subjective nature of statements made here.

No one can really objectively determine that beyond mass appeal or mass opinion. And even then it can be subjective.

Precisely, especially the bolded. IMDB and Metacritic are depressing representations of this. 

The only concrete, semi-"objective" figure we can go by is sales, which is amusing in itself.

Yeah, about that. Aliens: Colonial Marines managed to sell around 1.3 million copies despite being an awful game (I have played it)

[Mcfly616]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Will it be the same? Nope. It'll be even better.

It would be very hard for them to do worse, I'll give you that 

I hope that's sarcasm...

You liking bad things don't make them good things.

You saying something is bad, doesn't make it so...

You saying something is good doesn't make it good though either.

please, could you point out where in this quote pyramid I ever stated something was "good"....