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[Sully13]

She is a stalker and i hear she has the smegs to.. or if your American Cooties.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Angrywolves wrote...

What would have been the point.

A cool, dramatic scene?

Obviously your character has to agree to Duncan's wishes to progress the game.:innocent:.

Obviously. Let's remove combat death too, since you have to kill all the enemies to progress the game. 

[Quill74Pen]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

You could probably help out the Mages in the war and maybe form an alliance with them. They help you investigate the veil tear and you help them fight against the Templars and Chantry. (Or Vice Versa with the Templars.)

But become their leader? This isn't Elder Scrolls.

Heh. As I recall, Skyrim didn't exactly handle that so well, either. Do a few sidequests and — BAM! — you're the leader of so and so faction. But the silliest parts? The fact that you could be the leader of multiple factions at once, and that NPCs rarely, if ever, mentioned the fact that, oh, hey, your PC is the leader of so and so faction.

[Fast Jimmy]

Lord Raijin wrote...

I'm planning on buying the game because I not only invested $$$ into the series but also emotionally invested into the game so telling me not buy the game is irreverent because that is not an option that I can take.

That's just insane on the face of it.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

su lu pi wrote...

"Buuut Daaaad i dont waaana to be an Inquisitor."
"Look Son and or Daughter me and your mother spent a lot of gold to put you through Inquisition school tou are going to be a Inquisitor."

I hate it when parents are causing unfair pressure on children like that. "You WILL become an inquisitor and you WILL save the world from cataclysmic events of the fade tear, or we will ground you and then disown you!"

[dreamgazer]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

I'm planning on buying the game because I not only invested $$$ into the series but also emotionally invested into the game so telling me not buy the game is irreverent because that is not an option that I can take.

That's just insane on the face of it.

Or maybe it's so sane that it just blew your mind.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 16 décembre 2013 - 02:22 .

[Medhia Nox]

@Shadow of Light: I actually agree with your second statement.

Combat death is an antiquated gaming design and alternatives should be found to failing combat.

[Angrywolves]

su lu pi wrote...

She is a stalker and i hear she has the smegs to.. or if your American Cooties.

or your country's cooties. lol.

[Firky]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Shadow of Light: I actually agree with your second statement.

Combat death is an antiquated gaming design and alternatives should be found to failing combat.

I'm not disagreeing necessarily, but like what?

If I kept waking up in a dungeon, for example, I'd be more likely to sigh and load to exactly where I would have loaded if I'd died and retry the battle.

And stuff like losing levels, xp or equipment has to have a fairly strict context, I think.

[saMoorai]

Firky wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Then there wouldn't be a game.

Sure there would. You just start over, or reload.

I'm just saying a death scene would have been cool. I'm not going to touch the idea of wanting to play the game as a non-Warden, non-Inquisitor, or a Hawke who decided not to leave Ferelden after all. That wouldn't be 'no game', that'd be 'different game'.

What would have been the point.Obviously your character has to agree to Duncan's wishes to progress the game.:innocent:.

There was a bit in The Witcher 2 where you either anger Iorveth or refuse to go along with him and an archer shoots you dead.

At first I was like, "great, now I have to reload," but then I think I ended up appreciating those moments.

It's like in Gone Home. Well. I can't explain without spoilers, but I thought there was a really obvious alternate way to end that game that the devs didn't provide.

Gone Home was a game?

[Medhia Nox]

@Firky: Well - battles could force you to flee. It's not new to CRPGs - but the design of current gen. CRPGs would need to change a bit.

So many current battles are pointless filler anyway. Being forced to flee them (let's say - forcing you to a last "waypoint") would be punishment enough.

Is it just a modification of death? Oh, absolutely. However - I feel making the "Retreat" take the place of death creates a story element - death abruptly halts the story.

If you're forced to retreat - you can maintain the illusion of a real story. Death requires a person to say: "All of that never happened."

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However, I think a few battles should have "Failure" built in as a mechanic.

Let's say there's a "Boss" type - and you could stop him at Points A, B or C.

You fail at point A - and he goes on to B and is more powerful. Or he escapes to point C where he enacts his plan and you fail to stop the event (let's say - the slaughtering of some mages).

Again - of course you can just reload it. And those who prefer to write their stories will be free to do so.

However - those who want to roleplay and weave a story out of their actions - can also do so.

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Anyway - not perfect, it would all have to depend on the game - but that would be the basic premise.

Whatever it is - anything that gets away from the break in story that is: "Death"

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 16 décembre 2013 - 02:52 .

[Hellion Rex]

@Medhia Nox, must it always be the mages who get slaughtered?

Modifié par eluvianix, 16 décembre 2013 - 02:54 .

[Nohvarr]

eluvianix wrote...

@Medhia Nox, must it always be the mages who get slaughtered?

.....Nah too easy.

[Mr.House]

Lord Raijin wrote...

But I plan on buying the game I just want more options to choose from, not being force to do something that I don't want to do.

That's not how Bioware games work. In DAO you had to be a Warden. You could not go on your own and do your own thing, expecting that to happen in DAI is just silly. If you don't want to be an Inquisitor, then don't play the game and go write some crappy power fantasty fan fiction.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 décembre 2013 - 03:02 .

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: Well - if we slaughter Templars we'll run out.

We can always make more mages.

[dreamgazer]

Best game for LARPing a mage-dominance character is Skyrim. Take over the guild and go crazy.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: Well - if we slaughter Templars we'll run out.

We can always make more mages.

And you can always feed more lyrium to growing boys and girls.

[Mr.House]

dreamgazer wrote...

Best game for LARPing a mage-dominance character is Skyrim. Take over the guild and go crazy.

Nothing beats becoming archmage when all you know how to cast is novice spells.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 décembre 2013 - 03:04 .

[Firky]

Was there one battle in origins where that retreat thing happened and you got thrown back in a cell? Was it in some mansion near the end? I can't remember.

I think that would work for encounters here and there, totally. But there are a lot of battles in these games. And, lots of places where retreat doesn't really work.

But, yeah. Having quest failure in general is good, I reckon.

[saMoorai]

J. Reezy wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Firky wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Then there wouldn't be a game.

Sure there would. You just start over, or reload.

I'm just saying a death scene would have been cool. I'm not going to touch the idea of wanting to play the game as a non-Warden, non-Inquisitor, or a Hawke who decided not to leave Ferelden after all. That wouldn't be 'no game', that'd be 'different game'.

What would have been the point.Obviously your character has to agree to Duncan's wishes to progress the game.:innocent:.

There was a bit in The Witcher 2 where you either anger Iorveth or refuse to go along with him and an archer shoots you dead.

At first I was like, "great, now I have to reload," but then I think I ended up appreciating those moments.

It's like in Gone Home. Well. I can't explain without spoilers, but I thought there was a really obvious alternate way to end that game that the devs didn't provide.

Gone Home was a game?

Your face was a game! D:<

GOTY.

[Br3admax]

dreamgazer wrote...

Best game for LARPing a mage-dominance character is Skyrim. Take over the guild and go crazy.

Every guild everywhere else>Every guild in Skyrim

[dreamgazer]

Mr.House wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Best game for LARPing a mage-dominance character is Skyrim. Take over the guild and go crazy.

Nothing beats becoming archmage when all you know how to cast is novice spells.

Teehee.

[Firky]

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Gone Home was a game?

Well. I did read this as, "What is Gone Home?" and was about to link it.

In fact, I still will. http://store.steampo...com/app/232430/

I'm comfortable calling it a game. As are the people who gave it GOTYs, I guess.