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[DeinonSlayer]

StreetMagic wrote...

Daemul wrote...

I remember someone on BSN once saying the Dalatrass was a walking straw man, a perfect description. A while a go I remember reading a post claiming that the writer of the genophage arc had made it known that he was totally against the genophage, which would explain a lot about the writing in that particular part of ME3, it could be false though.

Not sure what writer is being referred to. Weekes or Dombrow? They both touched on a lot of it.

Weekes was the one who came out and said Tali was racist, the Quarians were a racist species etc. which explains the walking strawman in the other major arc. I can't say who's responsible for the Dalatrass, though. It'd be bad if Weekes were responsible for injecting such transparent bias into both storylines.

[KaiserShep]

The character that better illustrates the brutality of the krogan is actually Victus. The Dalatrass speaks a lot, but doesn't actually explain anything. Victus, on the other hand, actually talks about what the krogan did during the rebellions. They essentially did what Balak tried to do over Terra Nova, only multiple times.

[AlanC9]

KaiserShep wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...
If anything, the galaxy's victory over the Reapers only means they've been left ill-equipped to fight a krogan uprise.

I like to think that the relay in the Aralakh system would likely take a lot longer to repair than the ones in the Sol, Parnitha and Trebia systems, since the krogan don't really have any techy types roaming about there. Of course, we have everyone back home in the epilogue, though we don't know how long all of this took.

Even if the krogan get their local primary relay repaired, there's no reason the turians, or whoever, need to repair its counterpart in their space.

Though the krogan live long enough to cross those distances without using primaries, actually fighting a war that way seems logistically impractical.

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...
The funny thing is, the Turians did the same thing to humans in the FCW. All of them are bastards who take a scorched earth type of approach.

The turians bombed planets with asteroids?

[KaiserShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

The character that better illustrates the brutality of the krogan is actually Victus. The Dalatrass speaks a lot, but doesn't actually explain anything. Victus, on the other hand, actually talks about what the krogan did during the rebellions. They essentially did what Balak tried to do over Terra Nova, only multiple times.

The funny thing is, the Turians did the same thing to humans in the FCW. All of them are bastards who take a scorched earth type of approach.

Yeah, pretty much. With the prospectors on X57, Kenson & Co. in the Viper nebula, the krogan, turians and everyone else, it seems like moving asteroids around ain't no thing to anyone. Thing I wonder is, if a moratorium on the sale and distribution of starship tech was placed on the krogan, what the hell would they even be able to do about it? I guess they'd have to resort to black market shenanigans.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 16 décembre 2013 - 06:12 .

[Daemul]

StreetMagic wrote...

Daemul wrote...

I remember someone on BSN once saying the Dalatrass was a walking straw man, a perfect description. A while a go I remember reading a post claiming that the writer of the genophage arc had made it known that he was totally against the genophage, which would explain a lot about the writing in that particular part of ME3, it could be false though.

Not sure what writer is being referred to. Weekes or Dombrow? They both touched on a lot of it.

The poster was referring to Weekes, but again, I don't know if this is true or not. I'll try searching and see if I find anything.

[Sir DeLoria]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Daemul wrote...
I remember someone on BSN once saying the Dalatrass was a walking straw man, a perfect description. A while a go I remember reading a post claiming that the writer of the genophage arc had made it known that he was totally against the genophage, which would explain a lot about the writing in that particular part of ME3, it could be false though.

Not sure what writer is being referred to. Weekes or Dombrow? They both touched on a lot of it.

Weekes was the one who came out and said Tali was racist, the Quarians were a racist species etc. which explains the walking strawman in the other major arc. I can't say who's responsible for the Dalatrass, though. It'd be bad if Weekes were responsible for injecting such transparent bias into both storylines.

 
Do you have a link or quote, Deinon? I never got to read his exact words.

[RatThing]

Necanor wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Daemul wrote...
I remember someone on BSN once saying the Dalatrass was a walking straw man, a perfect description. A while a go I remember reading a post claiming that the writer of the genophage arc had made it known that he was totally against the genophage, which would explain a lot about the writing in that particular part of ME3, it could be false though.

Not sure what writer is being referred to. Weekes or Dombrow? They both touched on a lot of it.

Weekes was the one who came out and said Tali was racist, the Quarians were a racist species etc. which explains the walking strawman in the other major arc. I can't say who's responsible for the Dalatrass, though. It'd be bad if Weekes were responsible for injecting such transparent bias into both storylines.

 
Do you have a link or quote, Deinon? I never got to read his exact words.

www.youtube.com/watch

It's here, somewhere around minute 40 I think. Tbh. I can imagine he really is responsible for the bias. Just listen to him here. You do this right, you should do this, don't do this ... .

Modifié par RatThing, 16 décembre 2013 - 06:30 .

[rekn2]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

The character that better illustrates the brutality of the krogan is actually Victus. The Dalatrass speaks a lot, but doesn't actually explain anything. Victus, on the other hand, actually talks about what the krogan did during the rebellions. They essentially did what Balak tried to do over Terra Nova, only multiple times.

The funny thing is, the Turians did the same thing to humans in the FCW. All of them are bastards who take a scorched earth type of approach.

Yeah, pretty much. With the prospectors on X57, Kenson & Co. in the Viper nebula, the krogan, turians and everyone else, it seems like moving asteroids around ain't no thing to anyone. Thing I wonder is, if a moratorium on the sale and distribution of starship tech was placed on the krogan, what the hell would they even be able to do about it? I guess they'd have to resort to black market shenanigans.

the krogan definately have movers and shakers, look at the blood pack. if the genophage is cured they also reproduce like crazy. as long as their communication still stands i can see them being a devastating force.

[RatThing]

As for the OP, deciding the Fate of the Krogan species based on one Krogan is silly anyways, considering they are a clan based society and that there will be trillions of them if cured. Either they're ready to be cured as a whole race or they aren't. I usually make that decision based on the Shepard I'm playing. Btw. it's funny how Wrex and Wreav talk different but act the same. Let's just say, I know politicians like Wrex.

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...
The funny thing is, the Turians did the same thing to humans in the FCW. All of them are bastards who take a scorched earth type of approach.

The turians bombed planets with asteroids?

Not exactly.  they used KE strikes on troop movements during the seige of Shanxi. It's partly why General Williams surrendered:  his troops were pinned down and cut off from supplies and civilians were getting killed from teh bombardments.

But while the turians "only" endangered a few square blocks of civilians with thier strikes, the krogan were wrecking entire worlds.  Garden worlds at that.

Modifié par iakus, 16 décembre 2013 - 06:41 .

[rekn2]

StreetMagic wrote...

iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...
The funny thing is, the Turians did the same thing to humans in the FCW. All of them are bastards who take a scorched earth type of approach.

The turians bombed planets with asteroids?

Not exactly.  they used KE strikes on troop movements during the seige of Shanxi. It's partly why General Williams surrendered:  his troops were pinned down and cut off from supplies and civilians were getting killed from teh bombardments.

But while the turians "only" endangered a few square blocks of civilians with thier strikes, the krogan were wrecking entire worlds.  Garden worlds at that.

Either way, it's a terrifying thing. Especially for humans, who hadn't even experienced aliens before. Or any kind of warfare like that.

depends on who was there and how well they were trained

[Iakus]

StreetMagic wrote...

Either way, it's a terrifying thing. Especially for humans, who hadn't even experienced aliens before. Or any kind of warfare like that.

Oh, no doubt.  In fact, Revelation indicated that at first humans thought the attackers might be Protheans, since they had no idea there were other alien races out there.

But it's still not quite the same thing as destroying an entire planet.

[rekn2]

StreetMagic wrote...

rekn2 wrote...


depends on who was there and how well they were trained

Being a no name colony and part of some species who's never experienced bird-like aliens lobbing crap from space at you is always going to be terrifying. It's an entirely new experience - and an extremely bizarre and violent one.

i thought you said there was troops on the ground

[jamesp81]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

@StreetMagic
I hear you. Frankly, I find the idea of the Spectres appalling. I can appreciate that there are certain jobs that you need to cut through the red tape, but autonomous, omnipotent, unaccountable agents? A government with the sheer gall to claim such a privilege should be burned to the ground.

Yeah. I'm not a fan of the Citadel Council.

Oddly enough, I'm an advocate for such groups.

I'm not surprised. I'm certain many are (knowingly or not), so long as said group serves their purposes, out of sight and out of mind.

I find that most people are alright with tyranny as long as it's a tyranny they approve of.

[Wulfram]

No. We've got dreadnoughts, and they have not. So they better keep well behaved.

Getting Salarian support might be worth sabotaging the cure, though.

[DeinonSlayer]

jamesp81 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Yeah. I'm not a fan of the Citadel Council.

Oddly enough, I'm an advocate for such groups.

I'm not surprised. I'm certain many are (knowingly or not), so long as said group serves their purposes, out of sight and out of mind.

I find that most people are alright with tyranny as long as it's a tyranny they approve of.

"Is not this... simpler? Is this not your natural state? It's the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation. The bright lure of freedom diminishes your life's joy in a mad scramble for power, for identity. You were made to be ruled. In the end, you will always kneel."