I know it's been said before, but in ME4, I really hope it is possible to select random only, and not get put in preset matches. I have played four games so far today. All had been in progress, dropping me in on wave one or two. Out of those four, three of them (according to the lobby afterwards) had been preset to Jade/Cerberus. My build wasn't exactly ideal for fighting Phantoms, and I find Jade to be the second hardest map to fight Cerberus on (after Condor of course).
Random Map/Enemy
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Silvershroud
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#3
Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 08:54
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When I host, it usually takes about 20 minutes before people start joining my lobby, while searching for a game takes on average 20 seconds, so I only host if my build requires it.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:19
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Same.
Also, I suggested adding a "NOT" filter.
So when a map/faction/difficulty becomes the new FBWGG...you can opt to search for everything BUT that map/faction/difficulty.
Also, I suggested adding a "NOT" filter.
So when a map/faction/difficulty becomes the new FBWGG...you can opt to search for everything BUT that map/faction/difficulty.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:23
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Just put it on Bronze and ninja it. The lobby fills quicker and you get some interesting commentary over the mic.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:25
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hope they fix random map/enemy to not be the same 2 maps every other game.
i also get sick of glacier hazard and glacier rotating for 6 or more games in a row, not counting the times when it altered between collectors and reapers the whole time.
it does this so much when i host, also pizza delivery for every objective several games in a row gets old too.
to add, no i didnt mod anything thats just random default BS that happens more often than not to be called random map/enemy.
hopefully they improve the game next time, but dont make things stupid at the same time.
i also get sick of glacier hazard and glacier rotating for 6 or more games in a row, not counting the times when it altered between collectors and reapers the whole time.
it does this so much when i host, also pizza delivery for every objective several games in a row gets old too.
to add, no i didnt mod anything thats just random default BS that happens more often than not to be called random map/enemy.
hopefully they improve the game next time, but dont make things stupid at the same time.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:27
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Count Silvershroud wrote...
When I host, it usually takes about 20 minutes before people start joining my lobby, while searching for a game takes on average 20 seconds, so I only host if my build requires it.
when I pug, I usually like to host.
when things go FUBAR b/c strangers in my lobby, the last thing I wanna deal with is lag.
but as u said, it's not always convenient to wait the usual 20 minutes or so before I can get ppl in there.
so in light of that, I like your idea as stated in the OP
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:33
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I was on this cerberus jade 
Got a lot of lag for my kishosck ...
Got a lot of lag for my kishosck ...
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:38
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:39
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alfonsedode wrote...
I was on this cerberus jade
Got a lot of lag for my kishosck ...
You were the volus adept right? I'm pretty sure your stasis saved my life several times.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:41
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Dunno what you're smoking when you say twenty minutes. Takes a tenth that time for my lobbies to fill.
Guess it's just one more byproduct of the Mobius Effect.
Guess it's just one more byproduct of the Mobius Effect.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:43
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Tokenusername wrote...
Unknown=Any
I think what he's saying is that he wants unkown to search ONLY for games actually set to "unknown" in the lobby. Not all of those, plus any other preset games that happen to be short a player. Seems pretty legit.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:45
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MofuggerX wrote...
Dunno what you're smoking when you say twenty minutes. Takes a tenth that time for my lobbies to fill.
Guess it's just one more byproduct of the Mobius Effect.
Inviting players is a crutch.
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:48
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For me:
Unknown Enemy = Collectors
Unknown Map = Hazard Dagger/Hazard White
Unknown Enemy = Collectors
Unknown Map = Hazard Dagger/Hazard White
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 09:53
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Could be worse. Could be PS3.FasterThanFTL wrote...
For me:
Unknown Enemy = Collectors
Unknown Map = Hazard Dagger/Hazard White
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 10:29
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If i just want some random games ill join any lobby with my trusty volus who can adapt to any game its only if im using specific builds will i host
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Posté 16 décembre 2013 - 11:01
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I bet the logic first tries to put in an unknown/unknown lobby, but if it is unable to, then it puts you into a preset match rather than force you to wait. This is what happens when the user base is small.
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Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 12:36
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When you go U/U, you always take the chance that your kit will not fit the enemy/map. The odds are the same whether the forum dumps you in a new game or in a game underway.
If you want your kit to fit a particular enemy/map, start your own public game. You will have to solo until others join up, but that usually happens pretty fast. If not, and I have sometimes wound up soloing the whole mission, then you would have waited just as long for someone to join your forum.
If you want your kit to fit a particular enemy/map, start your own public game. You will have to solo until others join up, but that usually happens pretty fast. If not, and I have sometimes wound up soloing the whole mission, then you would have waited just as long for someone to join your forum.
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Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 01:13
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geezer117 wrote...
When you go U/U, you always take the chance that your kit will not fit the enemy/map. The odds are the same whether the forum dumps you in a new game or in a game underway.
If you want your kit to fit a particular enemy/map, start your own public game. You will have to solo until others join up, but that usually happens pretty fast. If not, and I have sometimes wound up soloing the whole mission, then you would have waited just as long for someone to join your forum.
Yes, sometimes my kit will not fit the situation well. But being dumped into matches with the same enemy/map combo three times in a row? Not likely to happen if the games where set to U/U. Happens far to often with preset matches.
And no, DO NOT start a game solo and hope for others to join. I can't think of a single person on these forums mentioning that they like joining in-progress matches, and a lot of us complaining about being dumped into them. With lobbies, you can pick your character and equipment to be appropriate depending on the other players, and you can see if the other players look likely to actually be able to handle the difficulty they or on. I can't count how many times I have been dropped into a game on wave 3 with all three of the other players already dead. Not fun.
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Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 01:31
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I do like joining in progress games even though they sometimes go terribly awry (/understatement). But I still think you should be able to pick an option for no GIP.
#23
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 09:40
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Yep, missed a lot of easy phantom OSK. Messy game, but ok in the endCount Silvershroud wrote...
alfonsedode wrote...
I was on this cerberus jade
Got a lot of lag for my kishosck ...
You were the volus adept right? I'm pretty sure your stasis saved my life several times.
U did well btw. The leader was willing to play cerberus only, i don t even remember his kit. We first went on condor, then on jade
Then we all quit
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Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 10:30
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I wish it was truly random as i keep getting cerb/glacier/plat or reapers/giant/plat or are they the only combination people are playing.
On the off chance i get to play collectors it ends up on condor/dagger hazard
On the off chance i get to play collectors it ends up on condor/dagger hazard
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Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 11:22
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The filter system is very subpar.
1) you don't need "PUBLIC" for Quick Match since you can't actually join anything besides public games.
2) They should allow viewing of the host's connection speed.
3) There should have been a filter for enable/disable joining GIP.
4) There should have been a Spectate feature (so you can view the GIP and join at end of wave)
5) They should add a time-out feature so if you were looking for a specific game/game setting then it would query lobbies every so often until it found you a match or group of players looking for the same match.
6) The no-noobs or no-vets filter: They should have added a "no lower than" and "no greater than" filter for N7 and Challenge pts. Not every noob like vets coming into their match and owning and, let's face it, noobs dropping in GIP or creating solo games and lobbies is a big problem.
Two non-topic issues are:
1. The lag created when drop in players. Players should only drop in between waves.
2. Saving points. At the end of objective waves, the money and Xp should be saved to your character. There are way too many failed games where players get no credit because the host disconnects, lag, other various reasons.
1) you don't need "PUBLIC" for Quick Match since you can't actually join anything besides public games.
2) They should allow viewing of the host's connection speed.
3) There should have been a filter for enable/disable joining GIP.
4) There should have been a Spectate feature (so you can view the GIP and join at end of wave)
5) They should add a time-out feature so if you were looking for a specific game/game setting then it would query lobbies every so often until it found you a match or group of players looking for the same match.
6) The no-noobs or no-vets filter: They should have added a "no lower than" and "no greater than" filter for N7 and Challenge pts. Not every noob like vets coming into their match and owning and, let's face it, noobs dropping in GIP or creating solo games and lobbies is a big problem.
Two non-topic issues are:
1. The lag created when drop in players. Players should only drop in between waves.
2. Saving points. At the end of objective waves, the money and Xp should be saved to your character. There are way too many failed games where players get no credit because the host disconnects, lag, other various reasons.
