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[BouncyFrag]

No prob. Romances are silly anyways.

[gangly369]

Never use a wiki on my first playthrough. Almost always romance someone, though. I think I'm going to try and go into this game blind, however (well, as blind as I can given that I've seen the PAX/Digi Expo demo already. But no more now!!)

[AlanC9]

People use wikis on their first playthrough?

[Secretlyapotato]

AlanC9 wrote...

People use wikis on their first playthrough?

Of course, I need to find out who I can romance afterall.

[fiveforchaos]

Saslic wrote...

I see your point. Projecting my anxiety about being 'wrong' for whatever reason is a bit silly when I take into account there is an option to simply restart.

That option still terrifies me, because of all the quests that would have to be redone. I'm getting all anxiousright now just thinking of my favorite character dying, or a major plot getting totally screwed.

[Direwolf0294]

I've played through BioWare games without romancing anyone before and it's not something I really want to do again. The games end up feeling surprisingly boring without a LI.

[Celtic Latino]

I can do without the wiki (since I generally play on normal/casual settings) but sorry, I don't like my PCs being forever alone. My PCs always find love in their life. So the romance stays.

[Plaintiff]

AlanC9 wrote...

People use wikis on their first playthrough?

Yes.

I'm an unashamed meta-gamer. I want to know what the outcomes are so that I can make the story I want, and that's a totally valid way to play.

[katerinafm]

I didn't use a wiki when I first played DAO and DA2 so I doubt I'll use a wiki for DAI. I only use the wiki now sometimes when I want to get a specific outcome for maximum variety in my saves.

I sincerely doubt I won't romance anyone though.

[Hellion Rex]

Plaintiff wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

People use wikis on their first playthrough?

Yes.

I'm an unashamed meta-gamer. I want to know what the outcomes are so that I can make the story I want, and that's a totally valid way to play.

Same. But mostly if I am given a choice where I don't know what the consequences are.

[Mummy22kids]

I agree that I don't think the Wiki will have anything the first day, so that's not really an issue. I do. however, plan on romancing someone- but no idea as to who yet (of course).

[Magdalena11]

Enjoy your playthrough, OP. I'll enjoy mine and while I doubt the wiki will be much use in any event, I would much rather enjoy the way my companions interact with my PC than accept a challenge that I don't see the point in. Everybody plays differently and enjoys different aspects of the game. It is a mark of distinction that the previous games were well written and planned enough to offer such varied experiences for everyone.

[Orian Tabris]

Maria Caliban wrote...

MidnightsFury wrote...

My point with this is to really just enjoy and explore the game, with no pressure.

Do you know that some people play games on the hardest setting possible? This is because 'pressure' is pleasant to some. It adds to the experience, not subtracts from it.

Not necessarily.

Many people who play on the hardest setting possible, do it so that they can brag to their friends, or make (YouTube) videos showing how good they are... though many of those videos are masked as walkthroughs and how-tos.

Never estimate the power of a gamer's ego... least of all a teenage gamer's ego.

[Sanguinerin]

I always enjoy that first, raw experience of a game. I try avoiding any guides or wikis already being put out, and my first character always reacts how I would in the same situation. I let everything happen naturally, from my decisions to dealing with the consequences. However, the "no romance" bit I probably won't adhere to. I fell in love with Alistair in my first game and when he returned my lady mage's affections, I was certainly excited. Just the same, he broke my heart when he broke hers. I appreciate that hurt because it was a good hurt. As a player, I loved that the characters made me feel that involved. I do think you can enjoy the romances as a part of the game as a whole without letting that steer you off course from enjoying everything else.

Modifié par HallowedWarden, 17 décembre 2013 - 06:10 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Never use a walkthrough the first playthrough unless I really get stuck. Always do the romances to enchance the story. May as well, going to get an idea of how they play out even if you don't.

[esper]

MidnightsFury wrote...

My point with this is to really just enjoy and explore the game, with no pressure.

My very first play through of Origins, my husband had already played, it was only a couple years ago so there was a wealth of info. I got stuck and aggravated so I searched the wiki for help. Which spiraled into depending upon it for every little thing and unbeknownst to me, that shaped some of my decisions and play. DA2 I ditched the wiki and the romance at first. And my first play through was glorious. I took more time, in all honesty, and was able to appreciate (and in some cases, loathe ((Looking at you doubly used dungeons)) other things) my character's journey.

Saying no romance the first go through might sound silly, but it's not. Just my opinion. I love the romances, myself. But *most* people will get caught up in them and begin to make their character's decisions based around that. The anticipation of the romance can throw off the initial experience of the game, I think. Which is also why, and I can understand, some players vehemently oppose the romances. You won't spoil your future romances by eluding them just once. If you don't do them, you won't really miss anything. But what you can gain is a totally new perspective. Just a bit of a social experiment, part poking fun at some of the forumites who are so high strung over the anticipation of the romances that can barely contain themselves, and part just my opinion. Not to be taken too seriously, promise.

I would feel pressured without all those thing you mention.

I have always been the kind of girl to read the ending of a book before reading the whole, it is how I enjouy books. The only books and the only kind of games where I don't is the kind where the mystery is the most important (I don't spoil ace attorney, the zero escape or crimi for my self for example).

In roleplaying games I spoil as much as possible, because if I don't I get stuck playing as me which is not nearly as good a story nor fun.

As for the romances, you are right characers will make the decision based on who they woo, because in real life your loves ones does influence your decision making abilites. And my Hawke's story would not have been even half the story it was without her love for Anders. It was a very important part of her character and I would have missed out without it.

Basically I wouldn't be able to explore and enjoy the game with all these constraints.

Modifié par esper, 17 décembre 2013 - 09:22 .

[MidnightsFury]

Thanks for all the responses lovelies, I can finish my Sociology paper now, point proven.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Scientology paper?

[Senya]

No romance?

Burn the heretic!

In all honesty, I think I can avoid spoilers, but I don't think I can avoid romancing someone in the game. I've been waiting for Cassandra since Dragon Age 2...

[Vulpe]

Ok. The wiki part is obvious. I would not use it unless there is a fetch quest and I can't find all the locations for the items.

As for the romances, why ? I don't see the point. What would it take away from the game if we find a certain character interesting and we are interested in pursuing a romance ? Of corse there's the possibility of not finding any character interesting in the sense of being a partner for our character, but except this case why ? 

As for the rest : of course I'll enjoy the view and admire the land, details in the buildings , paintings, armors and other things. The same thing for the dialogues.

I might add that I have a difficult time in making decisions that are against my own moral code, thus every playthrough ends up with the same decisions:blush:

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 17 décembre 2013 - 06:46 .

[The_Huntress]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I've played through BioWare games without romancing anyone before and it's not something I really want to do again. The games end up feeling surprisingly boring without a LI.

Just a couple of months ago I played another complete run through of ME with the sole intention of romancing Samantha.  There are so many places that assume a partner to play off of that are just empty wtf moments without one.  Case in point, the locker scene right after Udina grounds the Normandy in the first game.  In ME2 they fill that same point (just before going through the Omega 4 relay) with Shepard looking at a photo of the Virmire survivor if nothing else.  It's like the plot does not know what to do without some form of companion.  There is no hook at times like these. No reason to move forward.

Contrast that with the Samantha Trainer romance in ME3 where the companionship is a vital role, a point of sanity in an ever dying galaxey.  The LI is what brings you back from the dream sequences to the here and now.  The needed pep talks so Shepard can continue to kick ass just don't happen and the game sort of ... lulls for no reason at times if there is no LI.

So to the assignment of "no romance" and to just "play how you want to" I have one question.  Which one is the assignment?  Because to me they are mutually exclusive.

[Beerfish]

My first quest will be to kill some rats in the cellar of an inn and get paid 2 silver pieces for it by the innkeeper.

Modifié par Beerfish, 17 décembre 2013 - 08:26 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I've played through BioWare games without romancing anyone before and it's not something I really want to do again. The games end up feeling surprisingly boring without a LI.

Actually, I do this on purpose in Origins--I don't like any of the romance options for my characters.  I suppose I could do it in DA2 as well but I'm reasonably fond of Fenris and it seems mean to do that to Hawke.  The Warden feels more emotionally self-sufficient to me, and also the events of Origins feel more short-term.

I should probably do a Warrior on my first playthrough, actually, because I don't really like the class and I tend to miss a staggering amount of Neat Stuff.  So I'll do my least-favorite playthrough on my least-favorite class and save my favorite class (mage) for later.

I would do wiki on the first playthrough, but I have to see everything for myself before the descriptions and explanations make sense to me, so I prefer not.  Once I've actually played through the game I start to see the potential (and I want to find out what I missed), but I'd be flying blind with or without a wiki on the first go around.

[ignoreality]

MidnightsFury wrote...
is to go through your very first complete playthrough with NO WIKI and NO ROMANCE.

I do plan to avoid looking up anything... even though I will have to beat my inner completionist into submission. But no romance? No way. I'll do my best to hook up with someone, if only because I believe the Inquisitor will need some R&R.

And you can be damn sure I'll spend hours walking around and making screenshots (and spamming my friends with them afterwards).