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[David7204]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No, I'm right. I know this because I datamined the damn disc. Everything was there. 

Hey, what do you you know. It just so happens I datamined the disc as well. Everything was not there.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2013 - 11:47 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Did you catch the part where I said the work is done between the game going gold and release? Nothing is scraped off the hamburger.

As for the price...would you prefer the main game cost more, and the DLC less?

I'd prefer they follow their original model - if they finish it before they sell it to me, then give the DLC for free with new copies. Anything else just comes across as tacky.

[David7204]

Why is it tacky?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No, I'm right. I know this because I datamined the damn disc. Everything was there. 

Hey, what do you you know. It just so happens I datamined the disc as well. Everything was not there.

I'm sure you didn't. Unless you are the renaissance man you claim to be, what with you being a physicist, a video game instructor, an expert on literary conventions, a businessman, and a computer whiz.

I'm sure you would have gotten to the compressed files that were labeled but inaccessable about Javik?

Up to and including the Prothean Particle Rife, the dialogue for the Rachni and Thessia, and the cinematics for both as well as Tuchanka.

By the way, which system did you datamine?

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 17 décembre 2013 - 11:52 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

David7204 wrote...

Gosh, I had no idea that a single email and a few television advertisements on the Citadel most players probably miss qualify a character as 'prominent.' We should talk about the 'prominent' Volus who sells cars. Or perhaps the 'prominent' security lady. She does have more dialogue than Emily Wong in ME 2. She's even featured in a sidequest.

The biotic volus and Giqnna Parasini are two highly beloved characters of mass effect. Same with the batarian preacher or the poetru singing krogan.

If you were a fan of mass effect and actually listened to other fans instead of condescending to them youd know this.

[Fast Jimmy]

David7204 wrote...

Why is it tacky?

Why is wearing white after Labor Day tacky?

If it offends the general person's sensibilities, it is tacky. D1DLC offends people sensibilities. 

If people need to be sat down and explained the in's and out's of your industry in order for a busienss decision to appear even remotely palatable, then it's a bad business decision. 

[Ravensword]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No, I'm right. I know this because I datamined the damn disc. Everything was there. 

Hey, what do you you know. It just so happens I datamined the disc as well. Everything was not there.

That is such a lie.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Ravensword wrote...

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No, I'm right. I know this because I datamined the damn disc. Everything was there. 

Hey, what do you you know. It just so happens I datamined the disc as well. Everything was not there.

That is such a lie.

A complete lie on David.

[David7204]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Why is it tacky?

Why is wearing white after Labor Day tacky?

If it offends the general person's sensibilities, it is tacky. D1DLC offends people sensibilities. 

If people need to be sat down and explained the in's and out's of your industry in order for a busienss decision to appear even remotely palatable, then it's a bad business decision. 

Not so. As an example, raising prices is pretty much universally an unpalpable and disliked business discision. It's also sometimes the smartest decision to make. And a profitable one, of course.

The video game industry is young, and DLC more so. People are going to have to get used to the fact they aren't going to get AAA games with jaw-dropping graphics and plenty of high quality content for 60 bucks.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2013 - 11:55 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Ravensword wrote...

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No, I'm right. I know this because I datamined the damn disc. Everything was there. 

Hey, what do you you know. It just so happens I datamined the disc as well. Everything was not there.

That is such a lie.

its really pathetic at this point. Feels like im picking on a handicapped whenever I point out why hes wrong tbh.

[AngryFrozenWater]

So, let me get this straight, OP... Because BW made DA2 in, according to you, 1.5 years that level of quality is expected? Yet they did charge the full price for it. Add to that the poor, according to some, ME3 ending and, yes, I can understand that people are not very happy with BW's performance. Now the news surrounding DA:I seems to be very positive. But we heard that before. It is what BW does best: Make a lot of promises that don't materialize in the final game. In the meantime, I'll give them the Salmon of Doubt. One more time.

[Fast Jimmy]

And a 20% hike in prices, regardless of prpoduct, is going to get people screaming with sticker shock.

If the industry had been moving up $5 a game every decade for the past thirty years, this wouldn't be a problem. Now they are stuck nickel and diming players, since a higher sticker price only becokes cost effective for them if it gets to be on the order of $75 or $80 a game.

Paid D1DLC is a bad business decision that is built on the back of bad decisions about keeping the same, static $60 price tag for a product since the late 80's, despite exponentially higher development costs.

[Gileadan]

David7204 wrote...
The video game industry is young, and DLC more so. People are going to have to get used to the fact they aren't going to get AAA games with jaw-dropping graphics and plenty of high quality content for 60 bucks.

In the same year as DA2 was released, 50 bucks got me The Witcher 2, with jaw-dropping graphics, polished content, patch support (not just bug fixes, but continued improvements) for over two years, a free enhanced edition and free DLC.

(Whether or not you liked the game is utterly irrelevant, the point is that it can be done)

[The Flying Grey Warden]

They ****ed themselves with pricing, plain and simple.

[David7204]

Perhaps it's not the best decision, Jimmy. But it's still a better decision than losing too much money to used games and 60 dollar price tags. Or letting quality slide.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

As I said, I love how David is a master of everything, including business and economics.

Is there anything he's not a master of?

[David7204]

Gileadan wrote...

In the same year as DA2 was released, 50 bucks got me The Witcher 2, with jaw-dropping graphics, polished content, patch support (not just bug fixes, but continued improvements) for over two years, a free enhanced edition and free DLC.

(Whether or not you liked the game is utterly irrelevant, the point is that it can be done)

Whether I liked the game is not is incredibly relevant. I'm very well aware that garbage can be produced for 50 bucks.

Unfortunately for you, based on everything I've heard about and the responses I've seen to the Witcher...I'm betting it's nowhere even remotely near as good as some people here like to claim it is.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2013 - 12:05 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Oh lord the lies just keep coming.

[Gileadan]

David7204 wrote...
Whether I liked the game is not is incredibly relevant. I'm very well aware that garbage can be produced for 50 bucks.

Unfortunately for you, based on everything I've heard about and the responses I've seen to the Witcher...I'm betting it's nowhere even remotely near as good as some people here like to claim it is.

As long as you're only betting and not knowing, well... you're just typing the equivalent of hot air here.

[David7204]

It's a very educated guess.

[Dutchess]

Gileadan wrote...

David7204 wrote...
The video game industry is young, and DLC more so. People are going to have to get used to the fact they aren't going to get AAA games with jaw-dropping graphics and plenty of high quality content for 60 bucks.

In the same year as DA2 was released, 50 bucks got me The Witcher 2, with jaw-dropping graphics, polished content, patch support (not just bug fixes, but continued improvements) for over two years, a free enhanced edition and free DLC.

(Whether or not you liked the game is utterly irrelevant, the point is that it can be done)

Yep, and then Skyrim came with its huge world full with dungeons to explore and stomped on DA2's stupid cave some more. 

[David7204]

It also came with a yawn-worthy plot, characters so dull they might as well not exist, choppy animations and models with omnipresent clipping, and filled to the brim with bugs.

[AngryFrozenWater]

If the game is too expensive to produce then cut the cost. Look at the length of DA2's credits. There's an awful lot of people in there. All those people didn't not make that game any better. Maybe it's time to scale down, instead of squeezing every penny out of us for the illusions of grandeur.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Gileadan wrote...

In the same year as DA2 was released, 50 bucks got me The Witcher 2, with jaw-dropping graphics, polished content, patch support (not just bug fixes, but continued improvements) for over two years, a free enhanced edition and free DLC.

(Whether or not you liked the game is utterly irrelevant, the point is that it can be done)

Whether I liked the game is not is incredibly relevant. I'm very well aware that garbage can be produced for 50 bucks.

Unfortunately for you, based on everything I've heard about and the responses I've seen to the Witcher...I'm betting it's nowhere even remotely near as good as some people here like to claim it is.

Sounds like a Contrarian fallacy now.

Someone provides a counter-example, and then you claim that it's not good (without you playing it) and claiming that it has received a lukewarm response (without citing resources to support your point). 

Granted, you wouldn't like it because the game punishes you for being a bad player with no skill. That was the largest complaint I saw for it. Difficulty being too hard, but a lot of people also praised this since it doesn't hold your hand.

From Eurogamer: "[the game] treats you not as a player...but as an adult, free to make your own mistakes and suffer a plot in which not everyone gets what they deserve"

From Gamepro: "The Witcher 2 embodies everything that's good about PC development, and everything that makes it, in my mind, the best platform out there."

I'll cite my sources for you:

Gamerankings - 87.95 % (PC)

Metacritic - 88/100 (PC)

These sites combine critical reviews with user reviews to reach their score.

Now, you'll probably go on to these sites, make an account, and give these games as many low scores as possible. Like with TV Tropes.

[David7204]

Yes, they probably did. That's how many people it takes to make a modern AAA video game.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2013 - 12:16 .