I dunno, skateboards just seem like something the elderly would hate.spirosz wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
You loathe them like the elderly loathe skateboards.
Where did you come up with this?
Modifié par jillabender, 17 décembre 2013 - 05:33 .
It's always been pretty absurd to me that anyone would think a game developer/film maker/artistic professional of any kind would deliberately produce an inferior product and then lie about it.jillabender wrote...
The more I observe the dev team interact with one another and with fans, the more it reinforces my impression that they are an awesome group of people who are very perfectionistic about making the best game possible, and who go above and beyond by always striving to be fair and kind when interacting with fans even when they encounter a lot of hostility.
Frankly, I think it's to their credit that they respond to criticism from fans on the BSN at all, instead of limiting their communication to impersonal PR statements. In my experience, they really make an effort to listen honestly and with an open mind to criticism that's presented as "I didn't like the choices you made with this game," but it really saddens me when I see them encountering criticism that accuses them of being disingenuous or lazy, and I would really like to see less of that.
Br3ad wrote...
Why are we going against the grain? It's the most important food group.
Plaintiff wrote...
That's because you perceived them as like-minded rebels, going against the grain.Fast Jimmy wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
It's not as if the belligerent attitude is limited to Bioware, or even to the gaming industry. On average, the cynicism gland starts producing higher levels of anti-corporatene about midway through puberty. From sixteen onwards, most adolescents report an increasingly powerful compulsion to "stick it to the man", to use the common parlance.
Which is funny, because I was a total fanboy of Bioware back when I was sixteen. It's not until I'm in my early 30's did my corporatene production for them kick in.
Now that you see them for what they really are - in truth, what they've always been - another shill worshipping at the altar of the almighty dollar, you loathe them. You loathe them like the elderly loathe skateboards.
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Modifié par MasterScribe, 17 décembre 2013 - 04:37 .
Have you learned nothing from the mistakes of Bruce Wayne and Dominick Cobb?MasterScribe wrote...
I don't care about this thread.
Too distracted by Marion Cotillard
MasterScribe wrote...
I don't care about this thread.
Too distracted by Marion Cotillard
billy the squid wrote...
And yet we see "professional"
reviewers giving DA2 10/10 or Rome 2 which was frankly utterly broken on
release, of BF4 getting 85% from IGN despite still being patched nearly
2 months after release and the MP still being broken, the user reviews
are not nuanced and they're not representitive of the game by bombin it
with 0. Yet, I'm unmoved when many of the "professionals" are nothing
more than shills and bought out whores.
I see it as
karmic justice, if gamers trawl a developer's reputation through the mud
when they're trying to pull a fast one, like Hammerpoint did when they
took a pounding for their antics with War Z.
Journalists are invited to the studio or a rented room at a convention. They play the most polished level and/or segment of the game
for a couple hours, maybe over the course of a few days. Drinks and
meals are on the house. Keep in mind that they're getting dropped into
the middle of the game somewhere, because complicated gameplay that
builds on lessons learned in previous levels would be extremely
frustrating, whereas you want the journalists to experience fun and
excitement. So we're talking graphics, simple combat, flashy cinematics,
and controlled linear environments that look really good -- as
long as the journalists never stray from the path, which is why there
are marketing execs looking right over their shoulders and telling them
where to go. And it's amazing how intuitive level design becomes when the guy who designed the level is there to explain it.
Fandango9641 wrote...
I mean, my decision not to purchase Bioware games at launch going forwards has less to do with ignorant negativity than it does disappointment with their more recent games.
Guest_Fandango_*
Eurypterid wrote...
Fandango9641 wrote...
I mean, my decision not to purchase Bioware games at launch going forwards has less to do with ignorant negativity than it does disappointment with their more recent games.
Somewhat similar situation here. I was very disappointed with DA2, but a single game isn't enough to scare me off (I've not played ME3 yet). After all, I love BioWare's games. But what's done it for me is the focus on a steady stream of DLC. I've come to the point now that I just don't want to pre-order a game or buy it on launch day if it's going to have a crapton of DLC released over the course of months. I'd far prefer to wait until all the DLC is out and then play the game with everything installed. For me, this is the biggest reason to wait.
Fandango9641 wrote...
Aye, I've avoided buying many an anticipated title at launch because of season passes, episodic content and microtransactions. The shame is that I may never get around to purchasingplaying any of them.
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Plaintiff wrote...
That's because you perceived them as like-minded rebels, going against the grain.Fast Jimmy wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
It's not as if the belligerent attitude is limited to Bioware, or even to the gaming industry. On average, the cynicism gland starts producing higher levels of anti-corporatene about midway through puberty. From sixteen onwards, most adolescents report an increasingly powerful compulsion to "stick it to the man", to use the common parlance.
Which is funny, because I was a total fanboy of Bioware back when I was sixteen. It's not until I'm in my early 30's did my corporatene production for them kick in.
Now that you see them for what they really are - in truth, what they've always been - another shill worshipping at the altar of the almighty dollar, you loathe them. You loathe them like the elderly loathe skateboards.
spirosz wrote...
MasterScribe wrote...
I don't care about this thread.
Too distracted by Marion Cotillard
Guest_Fandango_*
Eurypterid wrote...
Fandango9641 wrote...
Aye, I've avoided buying many an anticipated title at launch because of season passes, episodic content and microtransactions. The shame is that I may never get around to purchasingplaying any of them.
Heh, yeah it happens to me as well. I end up playing other newly purchased games (that don't have DLC) as well as games in my massive backlog and usually end up waiting until the Ultimate/Complete/GotY edition shows up on sale. Which then means it goes into my backlog...
To relate this more to the thread, this results in me not being nearly as excited for this game (I'm assuming the DLC trend will continue with this title) as I would be otherwise. Altough I'm still quite interested in it, but it's a 'wait and see' attitude.
Modifié par Fandango9641, 17 décembre 2013 - 05:13 .
Plaintiff wrote...
jillabender wrote...
The more I observe the dev team interact with one another and with fans, the more it reinforces my impression that they are an awesome group of people who are very perfectionistic about making the best game possible, and who go above and beyond by always striving to be fair and kind when interacting with fans even when they encounter a lot of hostility.
Frankly, I think it's to their credit that they respond to criticism from fans on the BSN at all, instead of limiting their communication to impersonal PR statements. In my experience, they really make an effort to listen honestly and with an open mind to criticism that's presented as "I didn't like the choices you made with this game," but it really saddens me when I see them encountering criticism that accuses them of being disingenuous or lazy, and I would really like to see less of that.
It's always been pretty absurd to me that anyone would think a game developer/film maker/artistic professional of any kind would deliberately produce an inferior product and then lie about it.
I feel pretty confident in saying that nobody anywhere willingly devotes literally years of their life to a creative project that they think is going to suck.
MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
spirosz wrote...
MasterScribe wrote...
I don't care about this thread.
Too distracted by Marion Cotillard
She's really not all that imo.
Fandango9641 wrote...
Same here. OT I know, but I don't have an issue with free day one DLC made available to those who purchase at launch more than I have with the kind of thing we saw with Javick in ME3. In any case, if the game and DLC looks compelling enough to me - and is made available without my having to download Origin - I'll gladly buy the lot.
Modifié par Eurypterid, 17 décembre 2013 - 05:17 .
Guest_Fandango_*
Eurypterid wrote...
Fandango9641 wrote...
Same here. OT I know, but I don't have an issue with free day one DLC made available to those who purchase at launch more than I have with the kind of thing we saw with Javick in ME3. In any case, if the game and DLC looks compelling enough to me - and is made available without my having to download Origin - I'll gladly buy the lot.
I broke down quite some time ago and installed Origin. I've had exactly zero issues with it, actually. Works great (and the offline part works a helluva lot more reliably than Steam). I've a feeling though that this game will require Origin.
Fandango9641 wrote...
Eurypterid wrote...
Fandango9641 wrote...
I mean, my decision not to purchase Bioware games at launch going forwards has less to do with ignorant negativity than it does disappointment with their more recent games.
Somewhat similar situation here. I was very disappointed with DA2, but a single game isn't enough to scare me off (I've not played ME3 yet). After all, I love BioWare's games. But what's done it for me is the focus on a steady stream of DLC. I've come to the point now that I just don't want to pre-order a game or buy it on launch day if it's going to have a crapton of DLC released over the course of months. I'd far prefer to wait until all the DLC is out and then play the game with everything installed. For me, this is the biggest reason to wait.
Aye, I've avoided buying many an anticipated title at launch because of season passes, episodic content and microtransactions. The shame is that I may never get around to purchasingplaying any of them.
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