Who Are the Best Weaponsmiths in the Galaxy?
#26
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 04:59
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
The Blackstar and their modified Phaeston MCMLXVIII for Marauders.
/I'll be in my bunk
#27
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 04:59
capn233 wrote...
They are saying hi because they are trying to get attention, since none of those are really close to being the best weapons, and some are just overrated for hipster purposes.Kislitsin wrote...
Javelin, CSR, PPR, Raider, Arc Pistol, all say Hi.
One doesn't simply diss both lazors, dubstep sniper, supreme overlord and best overall pistol.
#28
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 04:59
You can thank Quarians for the GI. Damn near everything good comes from Quarians including soup.wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.
#29
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:02
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
NuclearTech76 wrote...
The widow was present in the vision Shepard had with Legion. He makes a point of commenting on the weapon referring to it looking just like Legion's weapon, Legion doesn't correct him on that.capn233 wrote...
You can beg to differ all you want. There is no proof it is quarian, unless you want to claim that the Vindicator is quarian and not from ERCS.NuclearTech76 wrote...
I beg to differ. The original Widow is of Quarian origin, then evolved as a Geth weapon. The current version is of human design but it is based on an original Quarian weapon. Hopefully a dev comes in and clears up this attoricity, the Widow is not of Geth descent.
In ME2 the origin was ambiguous, Legion only gets the weapon after "co-development" is approved and Shepard builds it for him (he had a Viper on Derelict Reaper). But clearly some version of the weapon exists in council space since it is available on the Collector Cruiser, and it is already in use with sniper teams in an anti-armor / anti-Krogan role.
ME3 calls it a Geth weapon, but then again ME3 says a lot of goofy things.
Correct.
When Shepard views the Geth memories of their revolt against the Quarians, it showed a Geth pick up a Widow and fire it. Legion responded with "It was an efficient weapon", or something similar. So even though it was "Geth" it was derived from a Quarian weapon originally.
Black Widow was an Alliance version of the original.
#30
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:02
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Wait, wrong universe.
#31
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:02
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
NuclearTech76 wrote...
You can thank Quarians for the GI. Damn near everything good comes from Quarians including soup.wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.
Tali's sweat?
#32
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:04
And IN said vision, it is noted that the weapon that the geth unit picks up was a quarian rifle. The Widow that is obtained in ME2 is a human remake of Legions weapon, which, as was just stated, was of quarian design.NuclearTech76 wrote...
The widow was present in the vision Shepard had with Legion. He makes a point of commenting on the weapon referring to it looking just like Legion's weapon, Legion doesn't correct him on that.capn233 wrote...
You can beg to differ all you want. There is no proof it is quarian, unless you want to claim that the Vindicator is quarian and not from ERCS.NuclearTech76 wrote...
I beg to differ. The original Widow is of Quarian origin, then evolved as a Geth weapon. The current version is of human design but it is based on an original Quarian weapon. Hopefully a dev comes in and clears up this attoricity, the Widow is not of Geth descent.
In ME2 the origin was ambiguous, Legion only gets the weapon after "co-development" is approved and Shepard builds it for him (he had a Viper on Derelict Reaper). But clearly some version of the weapon exists in council space since it is available on the Collector Cruiser, and it is already in use with sniper teams in an anti-armor / anti-Krogan role.
ME3 calls it a Geth weapon, but then again ME3 says a lot of goofy things.
SO! Widow; Quarian DESIGN, Human MANUFACTURE. (B. Widow is purely Human however)
And to clear up the Claymore bit, the original was designed by Grunt in ME2, but was un-usable by any normal human, so the Alliance tweaked it to make the one used in ME3, and thus Claymore; Krogan/Human Design, Human Manufacture
#33
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:04
wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.

GI hype much?
#34
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:05
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7926723GhostKnife72 wrote...
NuclearTech76 wrote...
You can thank Quarians for the GI. Damn near everything good comes from Quarians including soup.wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.
Tali's sweat?
Yeah you can also thank Quarians for inspiration for possibly the weirdest thread in BSN history.
Modifié par NuclearTech76, 17 décembre 2013 - 05:06 .
#35
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:06
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
NuclearTech76 wrote...
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7926723GhostKnife72 wrote...
NuclearTech76 wrote...
You can thank Quarians for the GI. Damn near everything good comes from Quarians including soup.wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.
Tali's sweat?
Yeah you can also thank Quarians for perspiration for possibly the weiredest thread in BSN history.
FYP.
#36
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:06
You must be new here.Nate_Assassin wrote...
wngmv wrote...
Geth. Because GI.
GI hype much?
Also GI.
#37
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:08
Do you not recall what Legion told Shepard at the beginning? He is interpreting everything with his memories. Legion not correcting dense Shepard for a second time isn't proof that is quarian anymore than it is proof that the Widow even existed at the time of the Morning War.NuclearTech76 wrote...
capn233 wrote...
You can beg to differ all you want. There is no proof it is quarian, unless you want to claim that the Vindicator is quarian and not from ERCS.NuclearTech76 wrote...
I beg to differ. The original Widow is of Quarian origin, then evolved as a Geth weapon. The current version is of human design but it is based on an original Quarian weapon. Hopefully a dev comes in and clears up this attoricity, the Widow is not of Geth descent.
The widow was present in the vision Shepard had with Legion. He makes a point of commenting on the weapon referring to it looking just like Legion's weapon, Legion doesn't correct him on that.
#38
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:10
This.capn233 wrote...
Do you not recall what Legion told Shepard at the beginning? He is interpreting everything with his memories. Legion not correcting dense Shepard for a second time isn't proof that is quarian anymore than it is proof that the Widow even existed at the time of the Morning War.
Though I still mad at dissing the practicle rifle and Co.
#39
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:17
But there is no proof, just like there is no proof Aria is Aleena.
#40
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:23
Guest_GhostKnife72_*
#41
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:28
#42
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:28
This is why the quarians are masked, why the gun Legion picks up looks like a Widow and why the quarian soldiers are using Vindicators. Were they actually using these guns? It is never confirmed one way or the other so there is no guarentee that the Widow is a quarian or geth weapon.
Also, GI because GI.
#43
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:32
This is exactly what I am saying, and why you shouldn't throw out one little piece of the Geth Server mission without considering the entirety.sharkboy421 wrote...
This is why the quarians are masked, why the gun Legion picks up looks like a Widow and why the quarian soldiers are using Vindicators. Were they actually using these guns? It is never confirmed one way or the other so there is no guarentee that the Widow is a quarian or geth weapon.
#44
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:34
It is a variant of the Eviscerator. The Eviscerator is definitely human.FasterThanFTL wrote...
Whoever made the Wraith X.
#45
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:43
#46
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:43
It's either Quarian or it's Geth. If it's Geth there would be a racial bonus on it, right? Or are we not considering that because the current one is of human design?sharkboy421 wrote...
I think capn233 is going off of what Legion tells Shepard when she asks why are all the quarians masked. It is something along the lines that Legion is showing Shepard what happened but can only use the images Shepard already has.
This is why the quarians are masked, why the gun Legion picks up looks like a Widow and why the quarian soldiers are using Vindicators. Were they actually using these guns? It is never confirmed one way or the other so there is no guarentee that the Widow is a quarian or geth weapon.
Also, GI because GI.
#47
Guest_Lusty Argonian Maid_*
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:44
Guest_Lusty Argonian Maid_*
#48
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:52
Modifié par OrcWhisperer, 17 décembre 2013 - 05:52 .
#49
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 05:53
NuclearTech76 wrote...
It's either Quarian or it's Geth. If it's Geth there would be a racial bonus on it, right? Or are we not considering that because the current one is of human design?
It is a quarian or geth weapon true, but that does not make it the Widow. Again Legion is using images Shepard is familar with as stand ins; hence the quarians being masked. My guess is that the weapon is a qurian rifle that functions in the same role as the Widow and that is why Legion used the weapon as a stand-in.
#50
Posté 17 décembre 2013 - 06:04
Based on what we know then, the Widow is the greatest gun? Seriously if it was built 300 years ago and is still one of the best rifles it must surely be epic.Yajuu Omoi wrote...
And IN said vision, it is noted that the weapon that the geth unit picks up was a quarian rifle. The Widow that is obtained in ME2 is a human remake of Legions weapon, which, as was just stated, was of quarian design.NuclearTech76 wrote...
The widow was present in the vision Shepard had with Legion. He makes a point of commenting on the weapon referring to it looking just like Legion's weapon, Legion doesn't correct him on that.capn233 wrote...
You can beg to differ all you want. There is no proof it is quarian, unless you want to claim that the Vindicator is quarian and not from ERCS.NuclearTech76 wrote...
I beg to differ. The original Widow is of Quarian origin, then evolved as a Geth weapon. The current version is of human design but it is based on an original Quarian weapon. Hopefully a dev comes in and clears up this attoricity, the Widow is not of Geth descent.
In ME2 the origin was ambiguous, Legion only gets the weapon after "co-development" is approved and Shepard builds it for him (he had a Viper on Derelict Reaper). But clearly some version of the weapon exists in council space since it is available on the Collector Cruiser, and it is already in use with sniper teams in an anti-armor / anti-Krogan role.
ME3 calls it a Geth weapon, but then again ME3 says a lot of goofy things.
SO! Widow; Quarian DESIGN, Human MANUFACTURE. (B. Widow is purely Human however)
And to clear up the Claymore bit, the original was designed by Grunt in ME2, but was un-usable by any normal human, so the Alliance tweaked it to make the one used in ME3, and thus Claymore; Krogan/Human Design, Human Manufacture





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