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[crimzontearz]

October :

Resident evil 5 : 6.5 millions sold
Street fighters 2 : 6.3 millions sold
Resident evil 6 : 5.2 millions sold ( Capcom wanted 7 millions sold for this game )

You...you DO realize that you only mentioned ONE game I used as an example and that is the game you yourself said it undersold right??

[AlanC9]

rekn2 wrote...

its why i dont like me3. in me2 you can bring a small group of elite people into a mission and get things done. they have intelligence operatives back home (normandy) relaying tactical information to their front soldiers. perfect!

never once in me2 did i feel the SM was actually suicidal..

I agree, but I thought that this was a problem with ME2. The SM is too easy.

[crimzontearz]

DAO
Fallout 3
Jade Empire (though the "sacrifice" option is as much a joke as the "Refuse" option in ME3)
Chrono Trigger (specifically, ressurecting Chrono is optional)
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain

Deus Ex human revolution
Baldur's gate 2 (sort of)
Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption
Star Wars The Force Unleashed


I am fairly sure there is more as well

[dreamgazer]

You guys are aware that DE:HR's ending gets the "contrived" and "unsatisfying" criticisms too, right?

[crimzontearz]

You guys are aware that DE:HR's ending gets the "contrived" and "unsatisfying" criticisms too, right?

yes but there is a goddamn lead up to it, the factions involved you have been dealing with the WHOLE game and you could have supported/opposed them them the whole time. The AI at the end DOES NOT force you to agree with its idiotic logic, it just tells you what your options are AND it was not the king of your goddamn enemies. Also, as Adam I get to save my Ex, save Malik and S-U-R-V-I-V-E without "maybe he does tho TRLOLOLOL" crap.

So all in all I am more than good with it and the addition of NG+ makes it, for me, by far the best game of this past gen. I wish they would release a ln ultimate edition for Xbox One

[YourFleshIsMine]

When there's a lot of bad reactions in the media, people always assume it represents a majority of people.

I didn't play ME3 initially because of all the negative vibes and the comments people had about the ending. Stupid me for being an idiot sheep and believing it. I picked the game up earlier this year and in a month played 3 characters through from start to end and loved it.

Now I can imagine that especially the original ending could've been confusing but when I see all the ridiculous misinterpretations that had absolutely no foundation, I am glad I finally gave myself the chance to have my own experience and get my own opinion.

So go ahead and crucify me for it if you must but I do like ME3 and even though I am sad that Shepard's story is over, that is something that happens. Doesn't stop Game of Thrones from being popular either.

So between the overestimates on how many people actually hated ME3's ending and the down right preposterous misinterpretations about them people made and still make today, I can only say that BW seem to have misjudged their demographic and leave it at that.

[CrutchCricket]

dreamgazer wrote...

Fallout 3

*only after a DLC retcon.

lol

Bioware had their chance to do just that. We all know how that turned out.

[JamesFaith]

CrutchCricket wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Fallout 3

*only after a DLC retcon.

lol

Bioware had their chance to do just that. We all know how that turned out.

Well, it's quite different when fanbase had wide consensus on one objective and  easily correctable flaw in ending (Fallout 3) and shattered fanbase which was only able to agree that endings were bad, but had no collective idea how to change it and demand dozens, often contradictory changes (ME3).

[crimzontearz]

When there's a lot of bad reactions in the media, people always assume it represents a majority of people.

I didn't play ME3 initially because of all the negative vibes and the comments people had about the ending. Stupid me for being an idiot sheep and believing it. I picked the game up earlier this year and in a month played 3 characters through from start to end and loved it.

Now I can imagine that especially the original ending could've been confusing but when I see all the ridiculous misinterpretations that had absolutely no foundation, I am glad I finally gave myself the chance to have my own experience and get my own opinion.

So go ahead and crucify me for it if you must but I do like ME3 and even though I am sad that Shepard's story is over, that is something that happens. Doesn't stop Game of Thrones from being popular either.

So between the overestimates on how many people actually hated ME3's ending and the down right preposterous misinterpretations about them people made and still make today, I can only say that BW seem to have misjudged their demographic and leave it at that.

So...uhm...the operative words of this post are "I imagine"

No, I mean, I am glad you liked it and all, good for you.

I am still going to think it is quite awful especially in its delivery ... But not as awful as Bioware's handling of it

[Iakus]

StreetMagic wrote...

The only thing I don't like about the "deaths" is a matter of differing values. I reject any kind of value system/worldview that makes a big deal about sacrifice. As if that's some special passage to get anything significant done. Anyone who talks like that can blow it out their ass. Killing (and survival) gets more done than sacrifice.

.

I like Mal Reynolds view:

[crimzontearz]

Fallout 3's ending was still terrible. They just fixed it so where you can wander around the wasteland afterwards. It still didn't change how retarded the plot was at all.

Well at least one of the MOST retarded issues was fixed

[Iakus]

JamesFaith wrote...
Well, it's quite different when fanbase had wide consensus on one objective and  easily correctable flaw in ending (Fallout 3) and shattered fanbase which was only able to agree that endings were bad, but had no collective idea how to change it and demand dozens, often contradictory changes (ME3).

Gee, you'd almost think the fans expected a variety of possible outcomes rather the same Walter White outcome every time for Shepard. 

[KaiserShep]

iakus wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The only thing I don't like about the "deaths" is a matter of differing values. I reject any kind of value system/worldview that makes a big deal about sacrifice. As if that's some special passage to get anything significant done. Anyone who talks like that can blow it out their ass. Killing (and survival) gets more done than sacrifice.

.

I like Mal Reynolds view:

I feel the same way. Dying for a cause is fine, but f*ck all if that would be the primary objective. 

[JamesFaith]

iakus wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...
Well, it's quite different when fanbase had wide consensus on one objective and  easily correctable flaw in ending (Fallout 3) and shattered fanbase which was only able to agree that endings were bad, but had no collective idea how to change it and demand dozens, often contradictory changes (ME3).

Gee, you'd almost think the fans expected a variety of possible outcomes rather the same Walter White outcome every time for Shepard. 

You mean such variety like Catalyst vs. no Catalyst?

Or Crucible vs. no Crucible vs. Klendagon Canon Crucible vs. Deadly Virus Spreader Crucible vs. Shield Weakening Crucible?

Or IT vs non IT?

Or about twelve different  forms of Catalyst?

Demands werenť only about final outcomes but of course if someone is so obsessed with Shepard surviving as you he isn't able to  see past it, right?

Modifié par JamesFaith, 22 décembre 2013 - 11:58 .

[crimzontearz]

There was ONE very common request that was nit listened to

A reunion scene

Not ART enough apparently

[KaiserShep]

Is the Walter White thing really being taken seriously? I didn't know Walt could live.

[crimzontearz]

That's the point...

[Iakus]

JamesFaith wrote...

You mean such variety like Catalyst vs. no Catalyst?

Or Crucible vs. no Crucible vs. Klendagon Canon Crucible vs. Deadly Virus Spreader Crucible vs. Shield Weakening Crucible?

Or IT vs non IT?

Or about twelve different  forms of Catalyst?

Demands werenť only about final outcomes but of course if someone is so obsessed with Shepard surviving as you he isn't able to  see past it, right?

How about Shepard lives vs Shepard dies?

[BaladasDemnevanni]

iakus wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...
Well, it's quite different when fanbase had wide consensus on one objective and  easily correctable flaw in ending (Fallout 3) and shattered fanbase which was only able to agree that endings were bad, but had no collective idea how to change it and demand dozens, often contradictory changes (ME3).

Gee, you'd almost think the fans expected a variety of possible outcomes rather the same Walter White outcome every time for Shepard. 

Earth being potentially razed to the ground vs. severely damaging the relays vs Organic-Synthetic hybrids and so on really couldn't constitute a variety of possible outcomes?

[JamesFaith]

KaiserShep wrote...

Is the Walter White thing really being taken seriously? I didn't know Walt could live.

Best thing is that Walter died 29th September 2013 and ME3 was released 6th April 2012 but hey, Hudson once mentioned it in interview and some people here desperately need no meme.

[KaiserShep]

crimzontearz wrote...

That's the point...

The fact that Shepard can survive?

[JamesFaith]

iakus wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

You mean such variety like Catalyst vs. no Catalyst?

Or Crucible vs. no Crucible vs. Klendagon Canon Crucible vs. Deadly Virus Spreader Crucible vs. Shield Weakening Crucible?

Or IT vs non IT?

Or about twelve different  forms of Catalyst?

Demands werenť only about final outcomes but of course if someone is so obsessed with Shepard surviving as you he isn't able to  see past it, right?

How about Shepard lives vs Shepard dies?

I said wide consensus of fanbase not your wet dream.

[Iakus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...


Earth being potentially razed to the ground vs. severely damaging the relays vs Organic-Synthetic hybrids and so on really couldn't constitute a variety of possible outcomes?

Not for Shepard they don't.

To Shep it's a choice of being disintigrated, electrocuted, or walking into an explosion.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

iakus wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...


Earth being potentially razed to the ground vs. severely damaging the relays vs Organic-Synthetic hybrids and so on really couldn't constitute a variety of possible outcomes?

Not for Shepard they don't.

To Shep it's a choice of being disintigrated, electrocuted, or walking into an explosion.

Wide variety of endings and wide variety of endings for Shepard are two very different points. It's best not to give in to sensationalism when making a point.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 23 décembre 2013 - 12:10 .