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[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

I do not trust them thus I require official, unquestioned, uncontradicted word of god. 

If you don't trust them, what good will yet another Word of God do?

Modifié par dreamgazer, 23 décembre 2013 - 04:00 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

crimzontearz wrote...

So basically you need them to explain a joke to you that a mere child could understand.

How is it Biowares problem that you're inept?

I do not trust them thus I require official, unquestioned, uncontradicted word of god.

If you have a different outlook, good for you

Then wouldn't that create two official and contradicting accounts as word of god? Wouldn't that create more questions?

You're saying you don't trust  word of god, yet you're asking for more word of god? This doesn't make any sense.

And believe me, I'm kind of on you and iakus' side here. 

[Darks1d3]

crimzontearz wrote...

So basically you need them to explain a joke to you that a mere child could understand.

How is it Biowares problem that you're inept?

I do not trust them thus I require official, unquestioned, uncontradicted word of god.

If you have a different outlook, good for you

Look, I'm not trying to be an ass, but....really? Sure, the breath scene leaves much to be desired. I won't argue that. But you really shouldn't pass off your unhappiness on Bioware. They're not the reason you feel that way, you are. You want to be happy with the ending? Either say **** it, or take the trolling by the dev as a joke and leave it at that.

[Iakus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...
And I'd love to see your basis for this, other than your own personal outrage. Spiderman 3 is generally regarded as crap, despite Peter Parker making it to the end alive, as an example. This seems more like an appeal to some majority, which you don't have access to.

I have spreadsheets.  They're secret, so you can't see them 

[crimzontearz]

Oh for ****'s sake
Word of god 1: Tully - Shepard lives
Word of god 2: Helper - maybe he does not TROLOLOL

Between word of god 1 and 2, as incredibly disappointed as I was with the delivery I was ok with the breath scene. After number two, back to square one.

All it would take is someone to say OFFICIALLY (that is to say as opposed to "I feel that is what the scene meant") that Helper was being an *** (which he was), it was a poor joke, Shepard lives" Amen, Amen dico vobis.

[crimzontearz]

Who is Tully and Helper? lol

I agree it's frustrating, but there is no word of God. Both Hudson and Walters seem the types who don't approach the story that way. They pay a lot of lip service to the notion of fans being just as important, and "speculations for everyone". They don't have the initiative to be "gods", so they don't write stories as gods would. They're asking you to be a god yourself. Personally, I like deferring to the authority of storytellers, but they don't want the responsibility. Not too much of it at least. They want it open-ended. So you have to deal with it.

They are the devs who provided the word of god (you do know what word of god means in this context right?)

Point is, us being the "gods" only works in a PNP RPG, not in a game, for nothing we decide in such fashion is actualized in any way but in our heads

[crimzontearz]

Or I could give them my 60$ for the next game mentally and just buy it used....see, so they can speculate on why I just could not be bothered to buy it new.

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

Or I could give them my 60$ for the next game mentally and just buy it used....see, so they can speculate on why I just could not be bothered to buy it new.

I definitely think that might be a good idea for you, for your own sake.

Hell, I'll possibly be doing the same (waiting, buying it used, sitting out completely) if the story's setting doesn't interest me, which is entirely possible. But it won't be out of spite.

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

Oh for ****'s sake
Word of god 1: Tully - Shepard lives
Word of god 2: Helper - maybe he does not TROLOLOL

Between word of god 1 and 2, as incredibly disappointed as I was with the delivery I was ok with the breath scene. After number two, back to square one.

All it would take is someone to say OFFICIALLY (that is to say as opposed to "I feel that is what the scene meant") that Helper was being an *** (which he was), it was a poor joke, Shepard lives" Amen, Amen dico vobis.

Good lord, sir. One was an official forum post outlining the scene's intentions, while the other was a casual joke on a panel that was laughed off following discussion about a "beacon of hope".

[crimzontearz]

I definitely think that might be a good idea for you, for your own sake.

Hell, I'll possibly be doing the same (waiting, buying it used, sitting out completely) if the story's setting doesn't interest me, which is entirely possible. But it won't be out of spite.

I hold a grudge. Also I despise prequels so I might sit it out altogether myself if that is the case. But hey I could eat my words if the next fame is a sequel featuring Shepard (sure they said they were not doing it but hey, they also said they would not pull a lost and they were not doing an ABC ending)

Good lord, sir. One was an official forum post outlining the scene's intentions, while the other was a casual joke on a panel that was laughed off following discussion about a "beacon of hope".

then it will not hurt anyone to say that right? Takes what? 3 minutes flat to log in twitter/forums and say so? (cue the argument about "everyone knows it was a joke" "Bioware staff does not want to be here" "it is not their fault you took it seriously" to start in 3 - 2 - 1...)

[Mcfly616]

2 years on....and still all bent out of shape over the breathe scene. Nice.

[crimzontearz]

2 years on....and still all bent out of shape over the breathe scene. Nice.

would nit be if it wasn't for the comicon troll and a ****ty delivery, and YOU know it

[Mcfly616]

crimzontearz wrote...

2 years on....and still all bent out of shape over the breathe scene. Nice.

would nit be if it wasn't for the comicon troll and a ****ty delivery, and YOU know it

I don't pay any attention to trolls or tongue in cheek responses at fan panels. And I'm not too sure how "****ty" it is, when it got the point across quite clearly. Though, common sense might've had something to do with my perspective, so who knows....

[crimzontearz]

I don't pay any attention to trolls or tongue in cheek responses at fan panels. And I'm not too sure how "****ty" it is, when it got the point across quite clearly. Though, common sense might've had something to do with my perspective, so who knows....

You cannot use common sense in analyzing a game from a company who displays little of it in general.

And Magic, I am OK with SOME ambiguity but there is a goddamn limit.

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...
 I don't pay any attention to trolls or tongue in cheek responses at fan panels. And I'm not too sure how "****ty" it is, when it got the point across quite clearly. Though, common sense might've had something to do with my perspective, so who knows....

If it "got the point across quite clearly", then it wouldn't have caused a stir in the first place.

As it is, Bioware's new official stance seems to be "You are not allowed to have an ending where Shepard clearly survives.  But you can have all the endings where Shepard clearly dies that you want"

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Mcfly616 wrote...
I don't pay any attention to trolls or tongue in cheek responses at fan panels. And I'm not too sure how "****ty" it is, when it got the point across quite clearly. Though, common sense might've had something to do with my perspective, so who knows....

I'm sorry, I'm interjecting on this argument here, and I'm of the opinion that it was simply an inappropriate and inartful comment that was a plainly bad idea even if I know what the intent of the breath scene was, but the underlined...

I'm having a good laugh.

That's an even better joke than the one at Comic-con.

[AlanC9]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
Or I could give them my 60$ for the next game mentally and just buy it used....see, so they can speculate on why I just could not be bothered to buy it new.

I definitely think that might be a good idea for you, for your own sake.

Hell, I'll possibly be doing the same (waiting, buying it used, sitting out completely) if the story's setting doesn't interest me, which is entirely possible. But it won't be out of spite.

I got DA2 for $8 in the last Origin sale. Turns out I like the game just fine.

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

I got DA2 for $8 in the last Origin sale. Turns out I like the game just fine.

I like it too, even as I acknowledge its problems.  I think it got far more hate than it deserved.

Which only goes to show the depths to which ME3 truly p*ssed me off.

[crimzontearz]

I'd get it for 8$.....if it had NG+

[Twilight_Princess]

As it is, Bioware's new official stance seems to be "You are not allowed to have an ending where Shepard clearly survives.  But you can have all the endings where Shepard clearly dies that you want"

THIS! 

[crimzontearz]

Yep....ART is death, pain and ambiguity at best.