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I'm frustrated that ME3 didn't learn its lesson IMO


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What does call of duty have to do with bioware not learning a lesson?

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crimzontearz wrote...

Any Call of Duty taken by itself is a perfectly decent game. More than decent. It's only problem is releasing new entries that don't add that much.

like a sports sim (tho the campaign is pretty bland in general)


You keep saying that, but you don't say why its a sports sims at all.

Mass effect 1 is a driving simulator more then a rpg. Why? Because stone cold ET said so, that's why.

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Not gonna lie: I do enjoy replaying ME1 partly because it makes me feel like a kid driving an RC car around again.

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MODEL Darth, MODEL.

Yearly iteration if the same game with forgettable single player experiences, MP focus and minimal gameplay innovation, just like a sports sim.

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Well...if Stone Cold E.T. said that, then it must be the truth.

AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT A SAY ABOUT THAT

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crimzontearz wrote...

MODEL Darth, MODEL.

Yearly iteration if the same game with forgettable single player experiences, MP focus and minimal gameplay innovation, just like a sports sim.


There is no such thing as a "sports game model" though, and even more so, that isn't what you said at all. ", COD is nothing more than a shooter turned into a sport sim" =/= "COD is just a shooter using a sport sims model for releasing games".

This post, if I am not mistaken, is the first time you've actually elaborated on what you mean by saying "COD is a sports sim" or "Took a sports sims model and applied it to a shooter", in the entire page long discussion you've made about this, over someone bringing up how many game copies were sold.

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You are wrong as I elaborated on what I meant right after, using the word model. Also, there IS such thing as a sports franchise mofelw

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Also that was about calling COD an outlier.

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crimzontearz wrote...

Also that was about calling COD an outlier.


... which it still is, when discussing sales figures and how it factors into quality.  Y'know, the point of your statement? 

But, again: who gives a damn about COD in relation to this topic?

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To a point, it depends on what you call quality in THAT model no?

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dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Because the point remains, it is qualitatively poor but sells like hotcakes even by sports SIM standards


Your points are contradicting themselves.

Copies moved ≠ quality

I mean look at COD

COD is not an outlier. COD is used in this category of games wrongly, COD is nothing more than a shooter turned into a sport sim with a ton of skinned box mechanics sprinkled in. It should never really be used in comparison to a narrative driven game


Does COD matter in this discussion or not?


I'll just repost the above. 

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crimzontearz wrote...
Yearly iteration if the same game with forgettable single player experiences, MP focus and minimal gameplay innovation, just like a sports sim.

Well it should really be called the EA model. Or perhaps EA-Activision Model. ME3 made steps towards that but it's not quite there yet. ME4 might be though. Story prediction: in ME4 it turns out the holokid was right when we get betrayed by the one synthetic lifeform everyone overlooked: chest-high walls:o

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dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Also that was about calling COD an outlier.


... which it still is, when discussing sales figures and how it factors into quality.  Y'know, the point of your statement? 

But, again: who gives a damn about COD in relation to this topic?


I do! I've put way more hours into COD than ME. B)

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Well this has not been about ME3's story for a while now. End of the line.

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You should change your name to The Mad Hater.