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Characters you are supposed to hate (but you don't)


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TIM (ME2 TIM, not that dude in ME3.)
Haytham.
Darth ****ing Vadar
Saren
Letho
Tywin Lannister
Cersei Lannister
G.R.R Martin
The Joker in all incarnations
Darth Malak
Harbinger/Sovereign
Loghain

(can't think of any more atm.)

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The colonel from James Cameron's Avatar.

I was gonna mention him too. I loved the How It Should Have Ended for that movie.

"Wait, weren't you supposed to be explaining to them what we were here for? What we need?"
"Well, yeah, but I hooked up with Neytiri instead."
"...DUDE! People are DEAD now!"


Never watched "Should have ended", but just looking at this picture.

http://t3.gstatic.co...1539mT8icsAz_qQ
Could mankind ask for a greater hero?

Him and ME2-TIM should totally team up, preferebly alongside Colonel Kilgore.



F+ck TIMmy, he's nowhere badass to be counted an equal among that guy and Kilgore. TIM is a racist/speciest powerhungry, psychopathic maniac with a messiah complex!

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Zod and the Kryptonians from Man of Steel. That was just stupid writing, though. Why, exactly, could they not terraform Mars instead? Do you have any idea how many nerds would jump at the opportunity to go into space and help them?

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Oh wait, this is different.

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Maleficent (Sleeping Beauty)
Lex Luthor (DCAU version)
Gideon Graves (Scott Pilgrim - Comic Version)
Azula (AtLA)
The Lords of the Nine (D&D)
Scarlet (GW2)

I just went with the first three five six that sprang to mind. Otherwise this list could get pretty long. It should be noted I do not see a lack of hatred as identical to liking a character. It's more like enjoying their dialogue on occasion or appreciating the badass things they do. In some cases it's apathy or a sense of pity.

Modifié par Seagloom, 18 décembre 2013 - 08:53 .


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Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...

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UltimaBACON wrote...

Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...


Not quite. She's more of a Nietzche-style nihilist. She's out to show you that any and every action will have consequences, many of which are unfortunate and tragic in their implications.

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Colonel Volgin - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Solidus Snake - Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Raiden - Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Much better than that breakdancing clown he became in Guns of the Patriots - The worst kind of character development for an otherwise solid character)
Kain - Legacy of Kain (Guess we are supposed to hate him since he's the villain and he's trying to commit atrocities)
The Killer - Persona 4
Jaime Lannister - A Song of Ice & Fire
The Joker (Paul Dini's & Heath Ledger's version)
Brick Top - Snatch
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Kimlee
Baccano! - Ladd Russo (Every single character in this series are criminal or evil bastards but this guy is just a complete bastard and yet still rather endearing)
Breaking Bad - Skyler

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Lizardviking wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

The colonel from James Cameron's Avatar.

I was gonna mention him too. I loved the How It Should Have Ended for that movie.

"Wait, weren't you supposed to be explaining to them what we were here for? What we need?"
"Well, yeah, but I hooked up with Neytiri instead."
"...DUDE! People are DEAD now!"


Never watched "Should have ended", but just looking at this picture.

http://t3.gstatic.co...1539mT8icsAz_qQ
Could mankind ask for a greater hero?

Him and ME2-TIM should totally team up, preferebly alongside Colonel Kilgore.


That reminds me. Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now (and the Kurtz from the novel it was based off of Heart of Darkness) is one of those characters who's a terrible person, but an incredible warrior and leader. At the risk of my own military career, I'd say that he and Kilgore (and Willard as well) are officers whose philosophy I agree with.

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UltimaBACON wrote...

Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...


I didn't feel you were supposed to hate her either. Otherwise she would've been my first choice. I thought Kreia was portrayed as a harsh, but on some level relatable mentor to the Exile. It never felt like she stopped taking on that role even at the bitter end when you had to kill her. That's just me, though.

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Colonel Klink

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

The colonel from James Cameron's Avatar.

I was gonna mention him too. I loved the How It Should Have Ended for that movie.

"Wait, weren't you supposed to be explaining to them what we were here for? What we need?"
"Well, yeah, but I hooked up with Neytiri instead."
"...DUDE! People are DEAD now!"


Never watched "Should have ended", but just looking at this picture.

http://t3.gstatic.co...1539mT8icsAz_qQ
Could mankind ask for a greater hero?

Him and ME2-TIM should totally team up, preferebly alongside Colonel Kilgore.


That reminds me. Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now (and the Kurtz from the novel it was based off of Heart of Darkness) is one of those characters who's a terrible person, but an incredible warrior and leader. At the risk of my own military career, I'd say that he and Kilgore (and Willard as well) are officers whose philosophy I agree with.



Wasn't it actually the other way round in that Kurtz was actually a pretty reasonable guy, who just happened to come to the conclusion that pretty isn't going to cut it and thus started to employ dirty warfare?

The impression I got from the movie was that he definately did not revel in the violence he uses and that he's got major psychological trauma distinctively different from being psychotic himself. It's just that he used incredibly violent tactics because they were the only thing that was really successful.

He's only a terrible person by way of doing things that weren't socially accepted (the incredible violence and the murder of allied personel), but you can easily see how his methods were successful (the VC took a hiding everywhere he showed up and after the murder of said personel, whoever was feeding the VC with informations stopped).


As far as my interpretion goes, he wasn't a terrible person, he just used terrible methods and with him being fully aware that they are terrible constitutes him as a very reasonable character in my books, even though him actually doing such stuff obviously puts a dent in my sympathy.

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Colonel Klink



If you're talking about Hogan's Heroes ... I very much doubt Klink was supposed to be hated, just like Schultz. Hofstedter and Burghalter on the other hand ...

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Xen(ME2/ME3),Gerral(ME3),Magneto(X-Men),The Joker, and Faora(Man of Steel)

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Pretty much every character from the Batman rogues gallery. The classics, anyway.

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Brick Top - Snatch


:wub:

I remember in my Grade 12 English class, "nemesis" was a vocabulary word... I tossed out the teacher's definition and used Brick Top's. Well, aside from the last line.

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Lizardviking wrote...

The colonel from James Cameron's Avatar.



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Shepenwepet wrote...

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Brick Top - Snatch


:wub:

I remember in my Grade 12 English class, "nemesis" was a vocabulary word... I tossed out the teacher's definition and used Brick Top's. Well, aside from the last line.

He's such a terrible person - But he has among the best lines in the movie. ^_^

Modifié par TheChris92, 18 décembre 2013 - 10:28 .


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UltimaBACON wrote...

Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...

I don't think you understand Ayn Rand at all.

Modifié par David7204, 18 décembre 2013 - 10:31 .


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David7204 wrote...

UltimaBACON wrote...

Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...

I don't think you understand Ayn Rand at all.

Most people don't.

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Xen(ME2/ME3),Gerral(ME3),Magneto(X-Men),The Joker, and Faora(Man of Steel)


I liked how Bioware through Tali tried to make it seem like her experimenting on her toys was akin to disecting a live baby or something. All it did was show that she possessed a creative and curious mind at an early age.

A shame I couldn't help her control the Geth in 3.

Edit: And I was disappointed I couldnt' crack open a six pack with Gerrel after smasking the geth like he promised in 2.

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Seboist wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

Xen(ME2/ME3),Gerral(ME3),Magneto(X-Men),The Joker, and Faora(Man of Steel)


I liked how Bioware through Tali tried to make it seem like her experimenting on her toys was akin to disecting a live baby or something. All it did was show that she possessed a creative and curious mind at an early age.

A shame I couldn't help her control the Geth in 3.

Edit: And I was disappointed I couldnt' crack open a six pack with Gerrel after smasking the geth like he promised in 2.


Gotta ask, what's your beef with the Geth?

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

Xen(ME2/ME3),Gerral(ME3),Magneto(X-Men),The Joker, and Faora(Man of Steel)


I liked how Bioware through Tali tried to make it seem like her experimenting on her toys was akin to disecting a live baby or something. All it did was show that she possessed a creative and curious mind at an early age.

A shame I couldn't help her control the Geth in 3.

Edit: And I was disappointed I couldnt' crack open a six pack with Gerrel after smasking the geth like he promised in 2.


Gotta ask, what's your beef with the Geth?


Counter question: What's your beef with half the characters in the game?

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

Xen(ME2/ME3),Gerral(ME3),Magneto(X-Men),The Joker, and Faora(Man of Steel)


I liked how Bioware through Tali tried to make it seem like her experimenting on her toys was akin to disecting a live baby or something. All it did was show that she possessed a creative and curious mind at an early age.

A shame I couldn't help her control the Geth in 3.

Edit: And I was disappointed I couldnt' crack open a six pack with Gerrel after smasking the geth like he promised in 2.


Gotta ask, what's your beef with the Geth?


Inconsistency and whitewashing mostly.

Modifié par Seboist, 18 décembre 2013 - 11:21 .


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I'm gonna have to dust off the rabbit season/duck season GIF again, won't I?