Meh, Geth or Quarians doesn't matter which. The one's gone from IMAKILLYAMACHINEGUY to puppy eying you all the time, the other went from encyclopedic exposition hips to THEYDIDIT militant extremist love interest.
Characters you are supposed to hate (but you don't)
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So you like the Quarians and Geth?Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Meh, Geth or Quarians doesn't matter which. The one's gone from IMAKILLYAMACHINEGUY to puppy eying you all the time, the other went from encyclopedic exposition hips to THEYDIDIT militant extremist love interest.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 12:02
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Persona 4 - Killer.
Persona 3 - Revolver Jesus.
Wind Waker - Ganondorf.
World of Warcraft - Garrosh.
The Witcher - Grandmaster.
Skyrim - Thalmor.
Dragon Age: Origins - Loghain.
Mass Effect 1/2 - Udina and The Illusive Man.
Berserk - Griffith.
Neon Genesis Evangelion - Gendo Ikari.
Monster - Johan.
Breaking Bad - Gus.
The Walking Dead (show) - Shane.
Persona 3 - Revolver Jesus.
Wind Waker - Ganondorf.
World of Warcraft - Garrosh.
The Witcher - Grandmaster.
Skyrim - Thalmor.
Dragon Age: Origins - Loghain.
Mass Effect 1/2 - Udina and The Illusive Man.
Berserk - Griffith.
Neon Genesis Evangelion - Gendo Ikari.
Monster - Johan.
Breaking Bad - Gus.
The Walking Dead (show) - Shane.
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So you like the Quarians and Geth?Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Meh, Geth or Quarians doesn't matter which. The one's gone from IMAKILLYAMACHINEGUY to puppy eying you all the time, the other went from encyclopedic exposition hips to THEYDIDIT militant extremist love interest.
I am mildly indifferent towards the Geth and strong dislike for the Quarians with the exception for Admiral Something vas Quip Qwip. That guy at least has a correct understanding of what happened. But all other Quarians so far range from merely hateful to downright warmongering whenever Geth are involved. Which in my opinion is wrong, the Quarians are at fault for what happened and have victimized themselves for a deed they've orchestrated themselves.
Also, I hate the Council. Tolerating slavery from the Batarians (remember they had an embassy before their conflict with the humans) but then in the same notion just outright banning and institutionized discrimination against a whole species/civilization because they created the Geth (not even because they illegally tried to genocide them, but for failing to eradicate them after they evolved to sentients they banned Quarians from galactic society!).
They're a bunch of ignorant bigots.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 12:33
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So many errors in what I just read, so many things to correct... but this just isn't the thread for it.
So many errors in what I just read, so many things to correct... but this just isn't the thread for it.
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You do know this is not the same topic as the Characters You're Supposed To Like (but don't) one right? You're not supposed to hate the Quarians Neo.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 12:42
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1: Persona 4: The Killer
2: WW and OoT Ganondorf
3: SS: Ghirahim
4: Persona 3: *spoiler*
5: MGS2: Solidus
6: Persona 2: Nyarl
7:DAO: Loghain
8: DA2: Arishok
Off the top of my head.
2: WW and OoT Ganondorf
3: SS: Ghirahim
4: Persona 3: *spoiler*
5: MGS2: Solidus
6: Persona 2: Nyarl
7:DAO: Loghain
8: DA2: Arishok
Off the top of my head.
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House pls. I doubt anybody gives a flying evoker's f*** about Persona 3. Type that out.Mr.House wrote...
4: Persona 3: *spoiler*
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 12:50
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DeinonSlayer wrote...
@Neofelis
So many errors in what I just read, so many things to correct... but this just isn't the thread for it.
Well, there are so many errors with the Quarian story that's perpetuated. What truth do you choose to believe?
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@Neofelis
So many errors in what I just read, so many things to correct... but this just isn't the thread for it.
This is as good a thread as any if you feel like I misrepresented something.
So, what exactly is wrong?
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 01:20
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Trying to bring this thread back on topic, the main example I can think of off the top of my head is a minor character from season 2 of 24, a show I watched back in the day but don't look back on fondly nowadays. Jack Bauer is undercover with a US-based militia because that militia is the only lead to a nuclear bomb (of course) in Los Angeles. It turns out that the militia guys want to blow up the CTU Los Angeles office, and want Jack to come along.
Naturally, Bauer doesn't want this to happen, so he contacts NSA agent Eric Rayburn, hoping that Rayburn will warn CTU of the bombing attempt and enable an evacuation of the site. But Rayburn is fearful that an evacuation of CTU will blow Jack's cover, so he suppresses the information from CTU and instead orders CTU to transfer all their data on the bomb to him. This is pretty heavy-handedly portrayed as a Mean and Naughty action by the show, and Rayburn gets his just comeuppance at the end.
My question was, why? Wasn't the Rayburn character simply following the ends-justify-the-means philosophy that pretty much defines Jack Bauer himself as a character? Apparently, you're not allowed to follow that philosophy if it means endangering the attractive main cast members of the show (civilians and Middle Easterners, however, are a different story). I wouldn't say that I loved Rayburn, but I just found the show's treatment of the character to be extremely hypocritical.
Naturally, Bauer doesn't want this to happen, so he contacts NSA agent Eric Rayburn, hoping that Rayburn will warn CTU of the bombing attempt and enable an evacuation of the site. But Rayburn is fearful that an evacuation of CTU will blow Jack's cover, so he suppresses the information from CTU and instead orders CTU to transfer all their data on the bomb to him. This is pretty heavy-handedly portrayed as a Mean and Naughty action by the show, and Rayburn gets his just comeuppance at the end.
My question was, why? Wasn't the Rayburn character simply following the ends-justify-the-means philosophy that pretty much defines Jack Bauer himself as a character? Apparently, you're not allowed to follow that philosophy if it means endangering the attractive main cast members of the show (civilians and Middle Easterners, however, are a different story). I wouldn't say that I loved Rayburn, but I just found the show's treatment of the character to be extremely hypocritical.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 01:23
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Adding Thrall from the Warcraft series. In Warcraft 3, he was a decent character. Idealistic but naive, he seeks to build a future for his people to prosper and coexist with the other races of the Horde and eventually Azeroth.
Fast forward to Cataclysm and he has become an insufferable Messiah analog / empowerment avatar for Chris Metzen, sort of like a Matt Ward character. Heck, basically every major leader in WoW would qualify.
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Haha, this post is in the wrong thread. Oh well, I'll start anew.
Suzaku Kururugi - Code Geass
Saruman - LoTR (Hobbit movie)
Bane - Dark Knight Rises
For the sake of spoilers, fog woman - Persona 4
Legate Lanius - New Vegas
Walhart - Fire Emblem: Awakening (I actually dislike Chrom more)
Holden Caulfield - Catcher in the Rye
Fast forward to Cataclysm and he has become an insufferable Messiah analog / empowerment avatar for Chris Metzen, sort of like a Matt Ward character. Heck, basically every major leader in WoW would qualify.
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Haha, this post is in the wrong thread. Oh well, I'll start anew.
Suzaku Kururugi - Code Geass
Saruman - LoTR (Hobbit movie)
Bane - Dark Knight Rises
For the sake of spoilers, fog woman - Persona 4
Legate Lanius - New Vegas
Walhart - Fire Emblem: Awakening (I actually dislike Chrom more)
Holden Caulfield - Catcher in the Rye
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 01:42
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Neloth from Skyrim's "Dragonborn" DLC (he was also in Morrowind) is my pick for the thread.
Being his unsung helper was fun as heck.
Being his unsung helper was fun as heck.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 01:47
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Hmm no idea where to start, Dave of Candas list i find pretty agreeable so I'll use that for now =D
Gus from breaking bad
Warcraft: The Lich King / Corrupt Arthas Menethil
The Witcher: The Grandmaster
Dragon Age: Loghain, Meredith, Certainly the Arishok & his Qunari but not sure if im really meant to hate them
Mass Effect: TIM & Udina
The Walking Dead: Shane
Admiral Beckett from Pirates of the Carribean
Tywin Lannister from ASOIAF
Ra's al ghul from any batman adaption (Gotham needs to be ****ing destroyed thats very clear, they have giant crocodile men roaming the streets)
General Zod from Man of Steel
Shan Yu from Mulan (Teh Guy is pure badass mmk?)
Lord Blackwood from Sherlock Holmes, And Prof Moriarty from the second one.
The Sith in all the star wars movies
Oh and the Templars from the assassins creed series
Gus from breaking bad
Warcraft: The Lich King / Corrupt Arthas Menethil
The Witcher: The Grandmaster
Dragon Age: Loghain, Meredith, Certainly the Arishok & his Qunari but not sure if im really meant to hate them
Mass Effect: TIM & Udina
The Walking Dead: Shane
Admiral Beckett from Pirates of the Carribean
Tywin Lannister from ASOIAF
Ra's al ghul from any batman adaption (Gotham needs to be ****ing destroyed thats very clear, they have giant crocodile men roaming the streets)
General Zod from Man of Steel
Shan Yu from Mulan (Teh Guy is pure badass mmk?)
Lord Blackwood from Sherlock Holmes, And Prof Moriarty from the second one.
The Sith in all the star wars movies
Oh and the Templars from the assassins creed series
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 03:26
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Darth Vader - Star Wars
Loghain - DA:O
Ammon Jerro - NW2
Khan - Star Trek 2 (not so much the reboot...good movie, but the original Montalban "villian" is incomparable)
Loghain - DA:O
Ammon Jerro - NW2
Khan - Star Trek 2 (not so much the reboot...good movie, but the original Montalban "villian" is incomparable)
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Is David an objectivist? Lol, why am I not surprised?David7204 wrote...
I don't think you understand Ayn Rand at all.UltimaBACON wrote...
Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...
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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Is David an objectivist? Lol, why am I not surprised?David7204 wrote...
I don't think you understand Ayn Rand at all.UltimaBACON wrote...
Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...
Junk philosophy.
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Is David an objectivist? Lol, why am I not surprised?David7204 wrote...
I don't think you understand Ayn Rand at all.UltimaBACON wrote...
Somehow I don't think you were supposed to like Kreia from KOTOR II. I mean, her philosophy at heart is all of Ayn Rand's garbage, and yet, the way the character is written into the story and her personal interactions with you transcend that mess ...
Probably not, since Objectivism is completely against his ideas of heroism.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 05:32
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My problem is I don't know which characters I'm supposed to hate.
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Walhart is a boss. I killed him in my second playthrough (didn't mean to). I think I forgot how you're supposed to recruit him. Which is weird, because it came natural to me in my first playthrough.LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Walhart - Fire Emblem: Awakening (I actually dislike Chrom more)
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Mass Effect 2 - Morinth
Hatoful Boyfriend - Iwamine Shuu
Fallout 3 - President Eden
System Shock 2 - SHODAN
The Walking Dead (game) - Kenny
Hatoful Boyfriend - Iwamine Shuu
Fallout 3 - President Eden
System Shock 2 - SHODAN
The Walking Dead (game) - Kenny
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I think the safe route is anyone that's opposing the protagonist and main characters of a story. Like Vegeta, Frieza, Udina, Saren, TIM, Lan-Di etc.General Slotts wrote...
My problem is I don't know which characters I'm supposed to hate.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 05:42
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Darth Vader & Emperor Palpatine - Star Wars
Admiral Beckett - Pirates of the Carribean
Loghain - DA:O
Ammon Jerro - NW2
TIM & Udina - Mass Effect 1-2
Batarians - Mass Effect series
should be more ... will be added later.
I actually despise Griffith of Berserk. That sonavabech ruined everything.
Admiral Beckett - Pirates of the Carribean
Loghain - DA:O
Ammon Jerro - NW2
TIM & Udina - Mass Effect 1-2
Batarians - Mass Effect series
should be more ... will be added later.
I actually despise Griffith of Berserk. That sonavabech ruined everything.
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Another one for Loghain here.
Also, Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.
Also, Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2.
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Posté 19 décembre 2013 - 05:48
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Wait? We're supposed to hate SW Space Jeebus? Well that explains why the prequels went with Hayden Christensen.
