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[VinBron]

Here you can find the sizes of the different ship of Mass Effect. I was able to extract some ship models from ME 2 and 3. Turns out, they have their actual in-game size!
This is for everyone, who is interested in the ships of Mass Effect.

NOTE: These ship sizes are not 100% canonical!
NOTE: Please, read the FAQs!
NOTE: Sizes marked with estimated are really just assumptions. Please read the FAQs for clarification!


Comparison:




Alliance:

Normandy SR-2:


Length: 196m
Width: 87m
Hight: 35m

Alliance Dropship:


Length: 15.5m
Width: 7.9m
Hight: 6.3m

Alliance Fighter:


Length: 15,4m
Width: 7,1m
Hight: 2,4m (without landing gear)

Alliance Cruiser:


Length: 707m
Width: 184m
Hight: 120m (with antennas)

Alliance Dreadnought:


Length: 1000m (est.)
Width: 260m (est.)
Hight: 164m (with antennas; est.)


Asari:

Asari Cruiser:


Length: 1000m (est.)
Width: 1924m (est.)
Hight: 838m (more than(est.))

Destiny Ascension:


Length: 1000m (est.)
Width: 1924m (est.)
Hight: 1940m (est.)


Cerberus:

Cerberus Fighter:


Length: 14,4m
Width: 9,5m
Hight: 2,4m (without landing gear)

Cerberus Cruiser:


Length: 700m
Width: 186m
Hight: 120m (with antennas)


Collectors:

Collector Oculus:


Length: 10,5m
Width: 5,5m
Hight: 10,3m

Collector Cruiser:


Length: 1004m
Width: 256m
Hight: 493m


Geth:

Geth Fighter:


Length: 23,5m
Width: 6m
Hight: 19,9m

Geth Cruiser:


Length: 700m
Width: 161m
Hight: 187m

Geth Dreadnought:


Length: 1190m
Width: 300m
Hight: 253m (without antennas)


Turian:

Turian Fighter:
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Length: 16,8m
Width: 9,1m
Hight: 10,4m (without landing gear)

Turian Cruiser (ofcl. Turian Frigate):


Length: 500m
Width: 303m
Hight: 118m (with antennas)


Quairan:

Quarian Cruiser:


Length: 643m
Width: 64m
Hight: 150m

Quarian Liveship:


Length: 2871m (est.)
Width: 1431m (est.)
Hight: 1307m (est.)


Reaper:

Sovereign Class:


Length: 721m
Width: 848m
Hight: 2000m (with stretched legs)

Harbinger Class:


Length: 644m (ME2) / 590m (ME3)
Width: 846m
Hight: 2000m (with stretched legs)

Human Reaper:


Length: 37m
Width: 235m (with stretched arms)
Hight: 150m

Hades Cannon:


Length: 95m
Width: 115m
Hight: 116m

Reaper Destroyer:


Length: 82
Width: 115m
Hight: 168m

Leviathan:


Length: 742m
Width: 847m
Hight: 2182m


FAQ:

Why are some ship missing?

It's only possible to calculate the size of the ship, if a good model of it can be found in the game files. If a ship is missing, then either I couldn't find a model or the model was to much scaled down to work with it.

Why is Harbinger not bigger than other reapers and why are two lengths given?

Harbinger has two different models in ME2 and ME3. In ME2 it has a big, second hump and in ME3 they just used the sovereign model and textures without the front leg. I think they did this because hey wanted to save resources (making textures for such a big model takes time).
In fact in ME2 Harbinger's main hull is bigger than the one's of other reapers, because of its second hump! So Harbinger from ME2 is bigger than any other reaper!

How was the calculation for the alliance dreadnought done?

Only two small models of the dreadnought are in the files. The codex says that a dreadnought is around 1km long. With this information I scaled the existing model up and got this sizes. It also works just fine with the comparison picture between alliance dreadnought and cruiser that was in the
official art book.

How was the calculation for the asari ships done?

Only a scaled model of the Destiny Ascension from ME1 can be found in the files, but Bioware also did rough models for the ships of ME1. These suggest that the DA should be around 1km long. With this information I scaled the existing model up and got this sizes.
I compared the DA and the cruiser via a video analysis of the final battle. It seems, as if the cruiser has the same dimensions as the DA, but it missing the big upper tower. So the hight should be around 838m or more without the visible antennas.

How was the calculation for the quarian liveship done?

Again there is just a scaled model in the files, but via the official art book and a scene from ME3, where you see a hologram of the ship compared to a quarian cruiser, I was able to estimate a ship size.

Modifié par VinBron, 18 janvier 2014 - 04:45 .

[David7204]

That's very cool. But we really can't consider the cinematic sizes as canonical. Animators mess with that kind of thing all the time to make scenes work correctly.

Modifié par David7204, 18 décembre 2013 - 11:55 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

Cool, I've always wondered about this when I saw the discrepancies between the exterior and interior of both Normandys.

[VinBron]

@David7204 That's true, but these sizes seem reasonable. Furthermore the big size of the models indecate that this are the actual sizes. Why should they build a 2000m reaper or an 700m cruiser model?

Other ship models from ME3 are indeed scaled, but then they have sizes between 0.5-3m.
These ships here had all big "real-life-size" models.

Modifié par VinBron, 19 décembre 2013 - 12:16 .

[Andrew Lucas]

Cool thanks for share!

[KaiserShep]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Cool, I've always wondered about this when I saw the discrepancies between the exterior and interior of both Normandys.

I always thought that this was for sake of efficiency. If the interior was scaled appropriate to more accurately reflect the scale of the Normandy, it would be immense. I wonder how long it would take to load. Notice that the cargo bay looks roughly the same length as the space between the CIC and the bridge at a passing glance. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 décembre 2013 - 01:04 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

KaiserShep wrote...

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Cool, I've always wondered about this when I saw the discrepancies between the exterior and interior of both Normandys.

I always thought that this was for sake of efficiency. If the interior was scaled appropriate to more accurately reflect the scale of the Normandy, it would be immense, and it would probably take the longest to load when going from deck to deck. Notice that the cargo bay looks roughly the same length as the space between the CIC and the bridge at a passing glance. 

The SR-1 interior I believe is actually bigger than the exterior. I'm not exactly sure if the SR-2 in ME2 has the same problem but it does appear in ME3 if you look at the Normandy map aboard the ship. The part that bothers me the most though is how the CIC layout walking around is much different than the CIC layout during the ME2 SR-2 loading screen; that plus all the things that appear to be lights on the exterior always made me wonder if the SR-2 had more areas than those presented in the game.

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 19 décembre 2013 - 01:09 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I always thought there were more windows on the outside of the Normandy than there were on the inside. This makes the scale appear to be off.

Then you look at the exterior of one of those houses in Skyrim and you go inside and there's no way the inside can fit in the outside.

[KaiserShep]

The in-game scale of the ship, both inside and out, is not really reflective of the canonical sizes anyway. If the interior of the SR-1 was to be more accurately portrayed to the scale according to canon, it would actually be much bigger, and the pathway between the galaxy map and the bridge would be about twice or three times as long.

[SNascimento]

Isn't the tower of the citadel 2km long?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Something odd: The Destiny Ascension is 4 times the size of an alliance Dreadnought, which is 888 meters.

Yet it is stated to be dwarfed by a Reaper, which is 2000 meters in length.

The Ascension is clearly 3552 meters in length (4 times 888 is 3552).

Wouldn't the Ascension be over 1.5 times the size of a Reaper?

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 19 décembre 2013 - 04:37 .

[BioWareM0d13]

If those are the actual sizes of the ships, its interesting that Harbinger is smaller than Sovereign. I would have expected the reverse to be true.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 19 décembre 2013 - 04:54 .

[KaiserShep]

That would explain his excessive trashtalk in ME2. He's overcompensating, like Lord Farquaad in space.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 décembre 2013 - 04:58 .

[BioWareM0d13]

KaiserShep wrote...

That would explain his excessive trashtalk in ME2. He's overcompensating, like Lord Farquaad in space.

I'm sad now that Shepard didn't have a "Shut it, pipsqueak" retort.

[KaiserShep]

Well, at least Grunt and Shepard can swap manly stories.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Han Shot First wrote...

If those are the actual sizes of the ships, its interesting that Harbinger is smaller than Sovereign. I would have expected the reverse to be true.

The reverse is true in the lore. It's outright stated that Harbinger is the oldest and largest Reaper.

And they're all still smaller than the Destiny Ascension. Which, going by the figures provided, should be the largest warship in the galaxy, being 1.75 than a Reaper Capital Ship.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 19 décembre 2013 - 05:07 .

[NeonFlux117]

Wait, wait, wait.

No. Harbinger is the oldest and Largest Reaper. Sovereign class reapers are not even close to how big Harby is.

[VinBron]

@MassivelyEffective0730
Where do you have this information over the Destiny Ascension from?

Harbinger is only bigger than a normal reaper in the sense that Harbinger has more mass, because of his "bump".

http://nach77.devian...r-ME2-327178326

Modifié par VinBron, 19 décembre 2013 - 06:08 .

[Artifex_Imperius]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Something odd: The Destiny Ascension is 4 times the size of an alliance Dreadnought, which is 888 meters.

Yet it is stated to be dwarfed by a Reaper, which is 2000 meters in length.

The Ascension is clearly 3552 meters in length (4 times 888 is 3552).

Wouldn't the Ascension be over 1.5 times the size of a Reaper?

where was it stated that the Acension is dwarfed by a reaper?

question though are all asari dreadnoughts as big as the Acension. Asari cruiser's already dwarf they're alliance and turian counterparts.

asari cruiser's look like there as big as the ascension just without the top tower. with that maybe just maybe asari dreadnoughts could be as big as the acension. bigger than a reaper.

[BronzTrooper]

You're missing the Quarian live ships, Reaper Destroyers, Normandy SR-1, Alliance Dreadnaught (you see one in ME3's prologue, fighting a Sovereign class Reaper), and the Geth Drop ships.

Other than that, this is a great thing to know! Thx op.

[GHNR]

Just an observation, I think the Turian ship is too large to be a frigate. I believe its supposed to be a cruiser.

[crimzontearz]

Sooooo in other words the UNSC Infinity DWARFS the harbinger class reapers AND outguns them


Go halo?

also...where are the dreadnoughts??

[VinBron]

GHNR wrote...

Just an observation, I think the Turian ship is too large to be a frigate. I believe its supposed to be a cruiser.

I think so, too. Another good reason to think like that is the fact that Shepard said in this interview during ME2 that the Turians lost 20 Cruisers during the Battle of the Citadel and not frigates.
Nevertheless the game files say Frigate.

[VinBron]

Gamer072196 wrote...

You're missing the Quarian live ships, Reaper Destroyers, Normandy SR-1, Alliance Dreadnaught (you see one in ME3's prologue, fighting a Sovereign class Reaper), and the Geth Drop ships.

Other than that, this is a great thing to know! Thx op.

I would really like to add those ships here, but there are some problems.

The Quarian live ship has only a model with the size of the one in Shepard's cabin.

The Normandy SR-1 has the same problem + in ME1 all ship models are just around 1-2m long and then scaled, so you can't use them as reference.

The Alliance Dreadnaught has only two models in the files. One is from Shepards cabin and one from the Omega DLC, but that one is also very small.
Fruthermore the ship is the Prologue is called a Dreadnaught, but unfortunately they used the cruiser model in-game.
static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121112064322/memorydelta/images/6/67/ME3_Alliance_Dreadnought.png

But I will search for the Reaper Destroyer +AA-gun and the Geth Dropship.

[Fayfel]

It's been admitted that the ship in the prologue wasn't a dreadnought. However, by the time the mistake was caught, the VO had already been recorded and it was too late to change. Dreadnoughts aren't capable of entering the atmosphere without crashing into the ground.

An interesting side note, Anderson and Shepard ( and everyone in the area ) would have received a lethal dose of radiation when the cruiser exploded.