Youth4Ever wrote...
Its woefully naive IMO to think the templars will have the best interests of the people as their main concern in everything they do. Was it in the best interest of the people for Meredith to de facto take power from Kirkwall's noblity with no intention of giving it up? No. It was in the best interest of the Templar Order, Chantry, and ultimately their greatest benefactor, Orlais, and remember, Kirkwall is an old Orlesian stomping ground. Vested interest all around that has nothing to do with "the people." Meredith's rule means a significant and law required revenue stream to the Chantry/Templars. Access to valuable local resources. Control over Kirkwall's large and well established trade port. Power to create rules and regulations favorable to the Chantry/Templars. The power to eliminate seditious materials and defiant individuals. The creation of a true and centralized seat of Chantry/Templar authority. The ability to more easily spread Chantry influence. And also the establishment of a useful precedent. What does this do for Kirkwall's commoners? Nothing.
Unlike the mages, the Templars do not represent a civillian population composed of varied people with varied goals and wishes. The templars are an order created to serve a role and composed by mean and women chosen for certain qualities; amongst them, the willingness to dedicated their lives to protect the world from magic over their own desires for personal advancement.
Of course, this doesn't mean that there can't be templars who will take advantage of the Order to serve their own interests rather than those of the people and there needs to be way of unconvering these corrupt templars but, ultimately, the Order serves as the voice of the people of Thedas in matters regardng magic and the regulations of the Circle should be written with this in mind; one can't overly tie the hands of templars on the basis that a corrupt one may appear in the future.
Also, I'd argue that Meredith had the people in mind when she took power; it was a mistake but her main concern did appear to be Kirkwall.
Well, duh, there must be restrictions and transparency, and the whole point of a compromise is to avoid the sort of extremes you just described. You can't assume all mages want to emulate Tevinter or feel absolute freedom is a good thing. They don't. If the first thing you assume about buying lyrium is that the mages will stockpile for an attack years and years down the line rather than use it to improve the circles of magi i.e. turn it into revenue for to support more residents, more buildings, better quarters, better food, more land, beneficial research, permit all mages the chance to undertake the harrowing and provide real fade prep for it, give mages real lives, etc. then there is no compromise to be had. The war is back on, MisterJB. May the best man win.
If blood magic is involved, I'm betting on the mages.
I'm not assuming anything. I am considering the possibilities and thus, requesting ways for the Templars to be able to prevent said extremes which include monitoring the trade of lyrium. If the mages' plans are not harmful towards non-mages, then they have nothing to hide and should have no problem discussing the matter with the templars. If their projects are harmful to the people of Thedas, then the templars were right in enforcing the oversight in the first place.
Having acess to large quantities of rare materials is not a basic human right.
And "barely any point of being there at all?" LOL.
So stoping abominations, demons, renegades, protecting mages from murderous peasants or explotation by nobles and nations, that's not important anymore?
They might as well be border guards. Templars should be involved in the policies and daily functioning of the Circle.
Modifié par MisterJB, 26 décembre 2013 - 01:01 .
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