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[Hellion Rex]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Cullen sucks bro. Why do you like this guy so much?

Don't make me spam your page with Anders links

Cause he's hot as hell, bro! Are you blind?!?!?

[Toasted Llama]

Lord Raijin wrote...

@Toasted Llama

Prior to Aunder the Chantry, both Black and White, pretty much ruled all of Thedas. They've unlimited amount of power over people, especially when it comes to politics. Look how the Chantry interfered with the political affairs of Kirkwall back when Perrin Threnhold was Viscount. Sure the Viscount was a dick to the Orlesian ships, by slapping outrageous tax fees, but it was Divine Beatrix III (who was close friends with Emperor Florian)  that ordered her Templar's to put pressure against the Viscount. Knight-Commander Guylian responded by writing  to the Divine with disapproval: "It is not our place to interfere in political affairs. We are here to safeguard the city against magic, not against itself." The Divine had “other” plans.

The Chantry ignited series of battles in Kirkwall because the corrupted Divine wanted to give her friend a personal favor to deal with problem that they were having..... So yeah the Chantry is in fact evil and corrupted, and should not have this much power over people and politics.

Soooooo....


Who is going to write this "how to be an overpowered blood mage and overthrow the Chantry for dummies" book?

[The Elder King]

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Cullen sucks bro. Why do you like this guy so much?

Don't make me spam your page with Anders links

Cause he's hot as hell, bro! Are you blind?!?!?

While I'm a straight male, I have to say that Cullen was the better-looking human male in DA2. Though I doubt Raijin cares much about his Physical appearance.

[Afro_Explosion]

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

Nobody asked your opinion. 
<_<<_<

[lil yonce]

MisterJB wrote...
Unlike the mages, the Templars do not represent a civillian population composed of varied people with varied goals and wishes. The templars are an order created to serve a role and composed by mean and women chosen for certain qualities; amongst them, the willingness to dedicated their lives to protect the world from magic over their own desires for personal advancement.

And obedience to the Chantry/Order will trump their mandate in most cases. The qualities prized in recruits include being a bot ready to follow orders over first thinking on their mandate and morals.

Of course, this doesn't mean that there can't be templars who will take advantage of the Order to serve their own interests rather than those of the people and there needs to be way of unconvering these corrupt templars but, ultimately, the Order serves as the voice of the people of Thedas in matters regardng magic and the regulations of the Circle should be written with this in mind; one can't overly tie the hands of templars on the basis that a corrupt one may appear in the future. Also, I'd argue that Meredith had the people in mind when she took power; it was a mistake but her main concern did appear to be Kirkwall.

I don't care about "a few corrupt ones", its unavoidable, but understand this: As it is, the templars are an extension of the Chantry, which is an extension of Orlais. So say Orlais doesn't like the leg up Nevarra has with its much freer mages in some industry, and a research project they want to do is blocked for dubious reasons. The vested interest is apparent and the mages can't appeal? And if they did appeal, who are the going to appeal to? The organization who wants their project blocked? And I agree Meredith had concern for Kirkwall, but she believes in the mission of the Chantry and Order to a fault, and as 20+ year KC of a circle of great geo-political importance, no doubt IMO she knew the significance of bringing the city under Chantry control, and if she didn't, she was dumb. And the suspicion the templars have of mages doesn't promote their advancing the public good in most cases. I'm not giving them veto power.

I'm not assuming anything. I am considering the possibilities and thus, requesting ways for the Templars to be able to prevent said extremes which include monitoring the trade of lyrium. If the mages' plans are not harmful towards non-mages, then they have nothing to hide and should have no problem discussing the matter with the templars. If their projects are harmful to the people of Thedas, then the templars were right in enforcing the oversight in the first place.Having acess to large quantities of rare materials is not a basic human right.

And I'm telling you that templar oversight is not a guarantee of fair and just oversight, not even close, thus their word can't be final on anything. Plus, regulating lyrium and magi projects isn't their role in the first place and never should be.

They might as well be border guards.

That's the point. They're guards, not administrators, or the CIA.

Templars should be involved in the policies and daily functioning of the Circle.

No, they shouldn't. That's the problem now. Circle guard duty? Absolutely. Having say in how circle are run? No. That's what's happening now, it doesn't work, and according to WoT, its a violation of the Nevarran Accord anyway. Its got to go.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 26 décembre 2013 - 04:10 .

[Dave of Canada]

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

I don't want a second Alistair.

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eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

Nobody asked your opinion. 
<_<<_<

Hes not going to be young and hot forever...

[The Elder King]

Considering that few years passed between DA2 and DAI, I doubt he's going to become fat and bald.

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

Nobody asked your opinion. 
<_<<_<

Hes not going to be young and hot forever...

Blood magic. 

[The Elder King]

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...
Hes not going to be young and hot forever...

Blood magic. 

Blood magic? Avernus wasn't exactly a man in his prime.

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eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

Nobody asked your opinion. 
<_<<_<

Hes not going to be young and hot forever...

Blood magic. 

Let him age gracefully into George Clooney.

[Lord Raijin]

AresKeith wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

@Justinia seems different from Beatrix, or at least that's the impression I got by (finally) reading Asunder.
Plus, what Medhia Nox said.

I'm pretty skeptical about Justinia, even after Asunder. Why would she help the mages when she was contemplating of delcaring exalted marches against the mages in Kirkwall? What does she gain by aiding the mages to freedom? That's what I want to know.

Because she didn't want Kirkwall to become another Tevinter. Plus I don't think she wants mages to have complete freedom

The mages were fighting against a brutal dictator who happens to be the Knight-Commander, and a Grand Cleric who didn't seem to mind what her mock daughter was doing to the city They did not want to become another Tevinter.

hhh89 wrote...

@LordRaijin: the Chantry has indeed made
questionable things in the past (though in regards of the elves, might
have their fault as well for what happened to the Dales. Unless we'll
find what happened, I'll hold my judgment). As the mages did.
Considering all mages or all member of the Chantry evil for what others
did is wrong.
About Justinia, she is Indeed very intelligent and
manipulative, so she might have hidden motives. As for the mages,
though, see my other post.
Though in all fairness, Kirkwall wasn't exactly a model city, as the factions and people inside weren't.

The Chantry spreads fear by contuining to remind everyone that the mages were to blame for the Black city, and for the first darkspawn. I can't find any other source other than the "Chant of Light" explaining where the Darkspawn came from. It's always "those evil mages and their evil magic that created the darkspawn". Whatever the Chantry says it must be true, right?

[Lord Raijin]

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Cullen sucks bro. Why do you like this guy so much?

Don't make me spam your page with Anders links [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Cause he's hot as hell, bro! Are you blind?!?!?

Anders is far better looking

Toasted Llama wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

@Toasted Llama

Prior to Aunder the Chantry, both Black and White, pretty much ruled all of Thedas. They've unlimited amount of power over people, especially when it comes to politics. Look how the Chantry interfered with the political affairs of Kirkwall back when Perrin Threnhold was Viscount. Sure the Viscount was a dick to the Orlesian ships, by slapping outrageous tax fees, but it was Divine Beatrix III (who was close friends with Emperor Florian)  that ordered her Templar's to put pressure against the Viscount. Knight-Commander Guylian responded by writing  to the Divine with disapproval: "It is not our place to interfere in political affairs. We are here to safeguard the city against magic, not against itself." The Divine had “other” plans.

The Chantry ignited series of battles in Kirkwall because the corrupted Divine wanted to give her friend a personal favor to deal with problem that they were having..... So yeah the Chantry is in fact evil and corrupted, and should not have this much power over people and politics.

Soooooo....


Who is going to write this "how to be an overpowered blood mage and overthrow the Chantry for dummies" book?

Blood mages should take over the Chantry.

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...
Let him age gracefully into George Clooney.

:sick:Gross. George Clooney is not attractive.

[Hellion Rex]

hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...
Hes not going to be young and hot forever...

Blood magic. 

Blood magic? Avernus wasn't exactly a man in his prime.

Hush, you! He shall bathe in the blood of virgins to maintain his youth forever!!!

[lil yonce]

eluvianix wrote...:sick:Gross. George Clooney is not attractive.

How can you speak that way about a fellow Kentuckian? . And . George Clooney is good looking. <3

[Nightdragon8]

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

In inquisition cullen should be a fat balding alcoholic with a beer belly

Nobody asked your opinion. 
<_<<_<

lol this is BSN much less the internet, nobody needs "permission" 

[Hellion Rex]

Youth4Ever wrote...

eluvianix wrote...:sick:Gross. George Clooney is not attractive.

How can you speak that way about a fellow Kentuckian? . And . George Clooney is good looking. <3

Us Kentucky people might be awesome, but that doesn't necessarily mean we all age gracefully . Trust me, you ladies can keep Clooney. I need me a younger man to keep me satisfied.

[Hellion Rex]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Anders is far better looking

Anders is hot, I will grant you. But next to Cullen, he is nothing.

Modifié par eluvianix, 26 décembre 2013 - 02:23 .

[Afro_Explosion]

You know who's really hot: Anders burning at the stake.

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...

You know who's really hot: Anders burning at the stake.

Dang. That's pretty cold, man.

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eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

You know who's really hot: Anders burning at the stake.

Dang. That's pretty cold, man.

I'm not an anders fan he's why I used to be pro-templar.

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

You know who's really hot: Anders burning at the stake.

Dang. That's pretty cold, man.

I'm not an anders fan he's why I used to be pro-templar.

"Used to be"?

Modifié par eluvianix, 26 décembre 2013 - 02:30 .

[Afro_Explosion]

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

You know who's really hot: Anders burning at the stake.

Dang. That's pretty cold, man.

I'm not an anders fan he's why I used to be pro-templar.

"Used to be".

Well Anders and Kirkwall made me hate mages and I was a mage!!! It took me an hour to pick a side.

Modifié par mx_keep13, 26 décembre 2013 - 02:52 .