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[Toasted Llama]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

1.And yet racism still exist as well other prejudices and none person from that groups in real life could  destroy city or world mages can at any moment of their lifes so they will be heated and feared for good reason.

This only true if you believe mages are walking nuclear time bombs. Which I don't.

2.Well it isn't agree or not hate is emotion this is fact.

You go ahead and believe that, I'll believe that hate is based on an opinion. And let's just agree to disagree.

3.This is completly wrong one walking nuclear bomb is enough to surpass danger of peoples.As i said normal person can't cause alone even 1/100 damage as mage to cause huge damage person need army mage needs only moment of weakness to threaten and none of this groups you mentioned can't destroy world even if they wanted mages can.As i said 1 normal person-is danger only on individual level mage-is danger on local scale at worst through national ending on global so you would need huge army of normal peoples to be a threat on political scale because i doubt that army starts burn eveyrthing just because like abomnations. Life is about
survival and if you want survive you need eleminate danger and mages are this danger.

You believe mages are ticking nuclear time bombs, I don't, because I believe Wynne and Irving prove that wrong. You have your opinion, I have mine. End of discussion. We're running in circles. Again.

4.Few individuals vs thousands psychos we meet hardly is revelant when every mage is threat on such scale.Drizzt can be one good drow but that doesn't mean that every other drow isn't psycho.So even if we have half mages who could be stable it still doesn't change situation that half of them is danger not worth risk.

Then get rid of the half of mages that do actively pose a threat and leave the ones that don't alive.

5.As i said even if don't want invole this in next import they should put that option instead stupid and naive solutions forcing you be pro-templar or pro-mage istead rapid and effective (more than any other) solution.Da is dark fantasy so i count on that instead stupid and naive solutions that simple wouldn't work in realistic and dark worlds.

How are you planning to kill mages "fast" if they are as strong as a nuclear time bombs as you claim?
 

6.Not rly you attacked them that doesn't mean that you killed them retcon would be if character was permanently removed for example you destroyed character soul so character doesn't exist and then he/she appears in next product.

That fact that I could decapitate Leliana with a finishing move proves this wrong. And according to your logic every enemy you've fought in the games wouldn't be dead, as you kill Leliana the exact same way as every other enemy. This makes no sense.

7.You can disagree or you are blind universe is clear mages can destroy world blight is one of examples that they are danger for every species in thedas and i don't mention abominations.Well i still don't see as
requirement to be naive if i want write in this thread.:innocent:

The first post of the thread explicitly says "This is a thread dedicated to how the mages and templars can finally
resolve their differences to form a new cohesive alliance without the
need for mass killing or genocide on either side. " and "Saying there can be no alliance will be considered spam."

8.That depends on devs you could kill your shepard despite save import so well.
And i don't bother peoples well i can guess that some naive can have problem because i crush their wonderland with brutal fist of reality. I just discuss how this ideas don't have chance live longe and end positively.

Just because you think it isn't possible doesn't mean people shouldn't strife for peacefull co-operation and diplomacy.

[EmperorSahlertz]

MisterJB wrote...

There exists this pervasive notion that if one dislikes something, it must be because one is "ignorant" about that something. And yet, it is entirely impossible that knowledge of the characteristics of that something is actually what leads to disliking it. After all, we, the player, have acess to every piece of lore on DA magic that there is and a great number of us want to see mages separated from normal people.
Therefore, educating Thedas does not necessarely mean that people will become more tolerant of magic.
Unless, of course, by "education" one means "indocrination" in which case, sure, people can become more tolerant of mages much to their disgrace.

Most prejudice is born of ignorance. I know you dislike mages because you theorize that they will become, if given more freedoms, the dominant econimcal power. But hypothesis has yet to be proven, or even supported by any sources. You could call your stance an educated dislike, if you want.
However most of the common hatred and fear of mages are born of simple ignorance. A harvest fails, so the peasants blame the child mage, even if the child had no influence on it. They do this becasue they lack understanding of how magic works. With education they could learn to understand magic, and through this understanding make an educated decision. Some would most likely still fear, and even hate, mages for the threat they inevitably pose. But others would learn that mages are not creatures to be demonized, like society currently does.
With this increased education, society would also advance in other areas, and mages could eventually be given more freedoms through the generations, since the threat they would pose to society would diminish through technological advances.

Education is always the key to civilized society.

[DKJaigen]

MisterJB wrote...

There exists this pervasive notion that if one dislikes something, it must be because one is "ignorant" about that something. And yet, it is entirely impossible that knowledge of the characteristics of that something is actually what leads to disliking it. After all, we, the player, have acess to every piece of lore on DA magic that there is and a great number of us want to see mages separated from normal people.
Therefore, educating Thedas does not necessarely mean that people will become more tolerant of magic.
Unless, of course, by "education" one means "indocrination" in which case, sure, people can become more tolerant of mages much to their disgrace.

We have plenty of people in this age that fears nuclear power modern day power plants are not able to meltdown anymore.  People that are educated and still cling to their ways are biased. like you

Even the chantry realizes that its full of itself. mages are dangerous bla blah blah but when a mage becomes a warhero he is suddenly allowed to settle in a village?  and the mages are simply not a large enough group to dominate the normal populations economically or socially.. it sound plan however to put a skilled mage in position of power as they spread out magical knowledge and ad security as they can fireball any bandits in the area.

Modifié par DKJaigen, 27 décembre 2013 - 06:32 .

[MisterJB]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Most prejudice is born of ignorance.

I disagree. But we have already been warned once and I'll leave real world issues out of this thread.

I know you dislike mages because you theorize that they will become, if given more freedoms, the dominant econimcal power. But hypothesis has yet to be proven, or even supported by any sources. You could call your stance an educated dislike, if you want.
However most of the common hatred and fear of mages are born of simple ignorance. A harvest fails, so the peasants blame the child mage, even if the child had no influence on it. They do this becasue they lack understanding of how magic works. With education they could learn to understand magic, and through this understanding make an educated decision. Some would most likely still fear, and even hate, mages for the threat they inevitably pose. But others would learn that mages are not creatures to be demonized, like society currently does.
With this increased education, society would also advance in other areas, and mages could eventually be given more freedoms through the generations, since the threat they would pose to society would diminish through technological advances.

Education is always the key to civilized society.

Hatred born from ignorance would simple give way to hatred born from knowledge. You are correct in saying that superstition plays a role in how the common man perceives magic and it is true that this superstition may be eliminated through education and this is, of course, a desirable outcome.
However, there are reasons to fear magic that do not rely on supersticion but on facts. Mages using their advantages to become the dominant social class is; an inevitable; one but there are also demons and the simple abuse of magic by less than charitable mages. If these becomes obvious to the people of Thedas, they will still fear and hate magic and mages; only now for more accurate reasons.

This is not meant to be an argument against education, obviously. Knowledge is always a positive thing and I do believe that technological advancement is the key towards extablishing a more equitable society for both normals and mages by narrowing the gap between them.
This is merely meant to be an argument against the notion that the reason people don't like magic is because they don't understand it.

Modifié par MisterJB, 27 décembre 2013 - 06:55 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

MisterJB wrote...

I know you dislike mages because you theorize that they will become, if given more freedoms, the dominant econimcal power. But hypothesis has yet to be proven, or even supported by any sources. You could call your stance an educated dislike, if you want.
However most of the common hatred and fear of mages are born of simple ignorance. A harvest fails, so the peasants blame the child mage, even if the child had no influence on it. They do this becasue they lack understanding of how magic works. With education they could learn to understand magic, and through this understanding make an educated decision. Some would most likely still fear, and even hate, mages for the threat they inevitably pose. But others would learn that mages are not creatures to be demonized, like society currently does.
With this increased education, society would also advance in other areas, and mages could eventually be given more freedoms through the generations, since the threat they would pose to society would diminish through technological advances.

Education is always the key to civilized society.

Hatred born from ignorance would simple give way to hatred born from knowledge. You are correct in saying that supersticion plays a role in how the common man perceives magic and it is true that this supersticion may be eliminated through education and this is, of course, a desirable outcome.
However, there are reasons to fear magic that do not rely on supersticion but on facts. Mages using their advantages to become the dominant social class is; an inevitable; one but there are also demons and the simple abuse of magic by less than charitable mages. If these becomes obvious to the people of Thedas, they will still fear and hate magic and mages; only now for more accurate reasons.

This is not meant to be an argument against education, obviously. Knowledge is always a positive thing and I do believe that technological advancement is the key towards extablishing a more equitable society for both normals and mages by narrowing the gap between them.
This is merely meant to be an argument against the notion that the reason people don't like magic is because they don't understand it.

To counter your point about hatred and fear born of knowledge: I know very well what guns and other firearms can be used for. I am highly educated on the field even. Yet, I do not fear or hate gunowners.
Give people education and they might mistrust mages even more. But mistrust is far more favorable than blind hatred and fear. Only a few decades ago people mistrusted nuclear power, now they barely even notice it.
To put it shortly: mistrust is far easier to work with and around, than hatred or fear.

[Lord Raijin]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

And Anders endangers Bethany's life in the Circle with his bombing of the Chantry.

Wrong. Bethany's life was already endangered when she first step foot inside the Circle with Templar's like Ser Karrass and Ser Alrik roaming around. The fact that the Templar's forced Bethany to undergo the Harrowing the very moment she arrived proves that they were willing to use her as demon bait.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Anders IS a terrorist. He uses
fear as a tool to acomplish his goals. He stikes civilian targets,
trying to cause maxium fear and panic in his targets. Wether or not you
agree with Anders is irrelevant. Anders is and will always be a
terrorist. It is not a subject that is up for debate.

If Anders is a terrorist than the Chantry is 1933-1945 Germany. The mages are considered Jews and unworthy to be included in the rest of society. The Templar's are SS officers going into peoples houses and taking away any children and adults who possesses magic talents. The Chantry uses propaganda to indoctrinate citizens to convince them  that what they're doing to the mages is for the right thing just so that they can get their support. The Circle of Magi are concentration camps.. once you're in there your jailers can do whatever hell they want... even as far as to rape you or physically assassult you.. I mean who's going to stop them from doing this?  Once you enter their concentration camps they have the right to conduct illegal medical experiments... by turning you into an emotionless robotic freak.  God forbid you become pregnate and your SS officers found out about it... They will treat you like caddle and take away your newborn baby to never to be seen again.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 27 décembre 2013 - 07:06 .

[Veruin]

Lord Raijin wrote...
*This idotic post has been snipped*

Just, wow.

[Lord Raijin]

Veruin wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
*This idotic post has been snipped*

Just, wow.

Is that all you have to say?

[Red Panda]

Lord Raijin wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

And Anders endangers Bethany's life in the Circle with his bombing of the Chantry.

Wrong. Bethany's life was already endangered when she first step foot inside the Circle with Templar's like Ser Karrass and Ser Alrik roaming around. The fact that the Templar's forced Bethany to undergo the Harrowing the very moment she arrived proves that they were willing to use her as demon bait.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Anders IS a terrorist. He uses
fear as a tool to acomplish his goals. He stikes civilian targets,
trying to cause maxium fear and panic in his targets. Wether or not you
agree with Anders is irrelevant. Anders is and will always be a
terrorist. It is not a subject that is up for debate.

If Anders is a terrorist than the Chantry is 1933-1945 Germany. The mages are considered Jews and unworthy to be included in the rest of society. The Templar's are SS officers going into peoples houses and taking away any children and adults who possesses magic talents. The Chantry uses propaganda to indoctrinate citizens to convince them  that what they're doing to the mages is for the right thing just so that they can get their support. The Circle of Magi are concentration camps.. once you're in there your jailers can do whatever hell they want... even as far as to rape you or physically assassult you.. I mean who's going to stop them from doing this?  Once you enter their concentration camps they have the right to conduct illegal medical experiments... by turning you into an emotionless robotic freak.  God forbid you become pregnate and your SS officers found out about it... They will treat you like caddle and take away your newborn baby to never to be seen again.

Could we not get into real world politics?


Anders is a terrorist, but he is also a freedom fighter. It's two sides of the same coin.


It's just the dichotomy of the viewpoints between mages and non-mages. Thanks to the clever system used in the past, compromise is very difficult to reach. This is why I maintain that the best solution is a mandatory breeding program involving mages and templars.

Make love, not war.

[Veruin]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Is that all you have to say?

There's nothing to say to those with that thought pattern.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Lord Raijin wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

And Anders endangers Bethany's life in the Circle with his bombing of the Chantry.

Wrong. Bethany's life was already endangered when she first step foot inside the Circle with Templar's like Ser Karrass and Ser Alrik roaming around. The fact that the Templar's forced Bethany to undergo the Harrowing the very moment she arrived proves that they were willing to use her as demon bait.

Uhm.. No? Karras doesn't really "bend that way" so Bethany was under no threat from Karras, and Alrik seemed to target troublemakers, so once again Bethany was never udner any real threat from him.
And the Cirlce made her udnergo her Harrowing almost immediately because she was in the Circle now, and all Circle amges must udnergo the Harrowing. Simple as that. I don't think the Templars ever really doubted that Bethany would survive it, since she had lived outside the Circle for 19 years by then, without being possessed.

Lord Raijin wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Anders IS a terrorist. He uses
fear as a tool to acomplish his goals. He stikes civilian targets,
trying to cause maxium fear and panic in his targets. Wether or not you
agree with Anders is irrelevant. Anders is and will always be a
terrorist. It is not a subject that is up for debate.

If Anders is a terrorist than the Chantry is 1933-1945 Germany. The mages are considered Jews and unworthy to be included in the rest of society. The Templar's are SS officers going into peoples houses and taking away any children and adults who possesses magic talents. The Chantry uses propaganda to indoctrinate citizens to convince them  that what they're doing to the mages is for the right thing just so that they can get their support. The Circle of Magi are concentration camps.. once you're in there your jailers can do whatever hell they want... even as far as to rape you or physically assassult you.. I mean who's going to stop them from doing this?  Once you enter their concentration camps they have the right to conduct illegal medical experiments... by turning you into an emotionless robotic freak.  God forbid you become pregnate and your SS officers found out about it... They will treat you like caddle and take away your newborn baby to never to be seen again.

Are you saying that Jews possess magical powers and are under constant threat of losing control and becomming neigh unstopable killing machines? Because if that ISN'T what you are saying, then your comparision is useless..

[MisterJB]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
To counter your point about hatred and fear born of knowledge: I know very well what guns and other firearms can be used for. I am highly educated on the field even. Yet, I do not fear or hate gunowners.
Give people education and they might mistrust mages even more. But mistrust is far more favorable than blind hatred and fear. Only a few decades ago people mistrusted nuclear power, now they barely even notice it.
To put it shortly: mistrust is far easier to work with and around, than hatred or fear.

That is your prerrogative but there are no guarantees that people will cease to fear and hate mages through education. Understanding how it works could simply lead to an even greater dislike of it.

Let's say that someone hates the qunari because they have horns just like pride demons and this person assumes they are demons because of it. This is hatred born out of ignorance.
But what if a person hates the qunari because they intend to destroy the free will of everyone in the world while killing those who refuse to surrender? Then, being educated about the beliefs of the Qun is what lead to hatred.

I feel the need to reiterate that I do think education is something sorely needed in Thedas. But understanding something is no guarantee of liking or tolerating it.

[MisterJB]

And, bam, Godwin rule, the lowest form of discussion possible.
A mod warned in the previous page about avoiding discussing real world politics and Raijin just ignored it. It seems to me this is basis for a ban.

[Hazegurl]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Wrong. Bethany's life was already endangered when she first step foot inside the Circle with Templar's like Ser Karrass and Ser Alrik roaming around. The fact that the Templar's forced Bethany to undergo the Harrowing the very moment she arrived proves that they were willing to use her as demon bait.

Wrong. Every Mage must undergo the Harrowing. And your opinion is invalid as none of them harm her. The only time her life is on the line is when Anders blows up the Chantry.

And for the last time. Stop bringing WW2 Germany into the argument. The Mod already warned you.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 27 décembre 2013 - 07:25 .

[Lord Raijin]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Uhm.. No? Karras doesn't really "bend that way" so Bethany was under no threat from Karras, and Alrik seemed to target troublemakers, so once again Bethany was never udner any real threat from him.
And the Cirlce made her udnergo her Harrowing almost immediately because she was in the Circle now, and all Circle amges must udnergo the Harrowing. Simple as that. I don't think the Templars ever really doubted that Bethany would survive it, since she had lived outside the Circle for 19 years by then, without being possessed.

Ser Alrik was wanting to turn every single mage in Kirkwall tranquil so no... he wasn't just going after the troublemakers. He was conducting illegal tranquilization against Harrowed mages for the sole purpose to use them as sex slaves. Ser Karras might be BI so she was still endanger from him

Uldred, a senior enchanter, is proof that the Harrowing doesn't work. It's just a hookie tool to make the Templar's and the Chantry feel good about themselves with false sense thinking that they're helping the mages to overcome demonic possession.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Are you saying that Jews possess magical powers and are under constant threat of losing control and becomming neigh unstopable killing machines? Because if that ISN'T what you are saying, then your comparision is useless..

Uh no. I wasn't saying that at all. I was simply making an equivalent comparisons. The Chantry speaks harshly against magic and mages.

[EmperorSahlertz]

MisterJB wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
To counter your point about hatred and fear born of knowledge: I know very well what guns and other firearms can be used for. I am highly educated on the field even. Yet, I do not fear or hate gunowners.
Give people education and they might mistrust mages even more. But mistrust is far more favorable than blind hatred and fear. Only a few decades ago people mistrusted nuclear power, now they barely even notice it.
To put it shortly: mistrust is far easier to work with and around, than hatred or fear.

That is your prerrogative but there are no guarantees that people will cease to fear and hate mages through education. Understanding how it works could simply lead to an even greater dislike of it.

Let's say that someone hates the qunari because they have horns just like pride demons and this person assumes they are demons because of it. This is hatred born out of ignorance.
But what if a person hates the qunari because they intend to destroy the free will of everyone in the world while killing those who refuse to surrender? Then, being educated about the beliefs of the Qun is what lead to hatred.

I feel the need to reiterate that I do think education is something sorely needed in Thedas. But understanding something is no guarantee of liking or tolerating it.

Hatred is generally consdiered a bad attitude or disposition. If such disposition cannot be weeded out through education then there is little hope for the hating person. Hatred is not exactly a disposition of higher intellect. As a matter of fact, many would often associate hatred with average to low intellegence. So if the person, even after education, continue to feel hatred, then tehy were enver going to let go of their hatred anyway.

I have yet to hear about a documented case where actual education of a subject led the student to hate the subject, unless it was a hatred born of frustration from failure of comprehension.
But even if it was the case, that such hatreds could be born from education, then the education itself would far outweigh such setbacks, by eliminating all the hatreds born of ignorance, which are far more common. So my point still stands, education will be the key to the solution of the entire issue.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

OperatingWookie wrote...
Could we not get into real world politics?


Anders is a terrorist, but he is also a freedom fighter. It's two sides of the same coin.

Yeah. We got warned one page ago to leave real world groups out of this. 

And I agree with OperatingWookie on the "Anders is a terrorist" thing. To those of the general population of Thedas, he was a terrorist since he targeted a civilian building to spread fear to support his idealogical reasons. That said, to the mages of Thedas he is a freedom fighter, if an extreme one. It's all just perspective. In reality, he was both at the same time since they can be the same thing.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Lord Raijin wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Uhm.. No? Karras doesn't really "bend that way" so Bethany was under no threat from Karras, and Alrik seemed to target troublemakers, so once again Bethany was never udner any real threat from him.
And the Cirlce made her udnergo her Harrowing almost immediately because she was in the Circle now, and all Circle amges must udnergo the Harrowing. Simple as that. I don't think the Templars ever really doubted that Bethany would survive it, since she had lived outside the Circle for 19 years by then, without being possessed.

Ser Alrik was wanting to turn every single mage in Kirkwall tranquil so no... he wasn't just going after the troublemakers. He was conducting illegal tranquilization against Harrowed mages for the sole purpose to use them as sex slaves. Ser Karras might be BI so she was still endanger from him

Uldred, a senior enchanter, is proof that the Harrowing doesn't work. It's just a hookie tool to make the Templar's and the Chantry feel good about themselves with false sense thinking that they're helping the mages to overcome demonic possession.

100% of the cases we witnessed of Alrik's illegal tranquilizations were performed on troublemakers. Alrik's plan never saw fruition since it was DENIED by the Divine and Meredith. So he relegated himself to picking off the troublemakers. So no, Behtany was NEVER in any real danger from Alrik, despite Alrik's desires.

And you continuesly fail to udnerstand the purpose of the Harrowing, and people grow tired of having to explain it to you. So for the last time on my part, try to udnerstand it this time.
The Harrowing is NOT supposed to make Mages immune to possession. It is supposed to prove that a mage in question can handle himself in day-to-day life without succumbing to a demon.
What happened in Kinloch Hold, was under extraordinary circumstances and is NOT a case to be used to display the failure of the Harrowing.

Lord Raijin wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Are you saying that Jews possess magical powers and are under constant threat of losing control and becomming neigh unstopable killing machines? Because if that ISN'T what you are saying, then your comparision is useless..

Uh no. I wasn't saying that at all. I was simply making an equivalent comparisons. The Chantry speaks harshly against magic and mages.

Well in that case... Your comparison was useless, and you should be ashamed of yourself...

[Lord Raijin]

MisterJB wrote...

And, bam, Godwin rule, the lowest form of discussion possible.
A mod warned in the previous page about avoiding discussing real world politics and Raijin just ignored it. It seems to me this is basis for a ban.

Feel free to report me to the mods.


By calling a Dagon Age charater a terrorist is inviting real world politics because terrorism is a RL term. Nowhere did I ever heard this term being used in Dragon Age.

[Lulupab]

Lord Raijin wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

And, bam, Godwin rule, the lowest form of discussion possible.
A mod warned in the previous page about avoiding discussing real world politics and Raijin just ignored it. It seems to me this is basis for a ban.

Feel free to report me to the mods.


By calling a Dagon Age charater a terrorist is inviting real world politics because terrorism is a RL term. Nowhere did I ever heard this term being used in Dragon Age.

I spent two years trying to tell people around here the very same thing.

[Lord Raijin]

After Anders blew up the Chantry Meredith, Orsino nor Sebastian called Anders a terrorist... they called him a MURDERER.

So in Dragon age term he is in fact a murderer. People who insist on calling him a terrorist are using their RL feelings to describe him, and that is not relevant.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 27 décembre 2013 - 07:42 .

[SgtSteel91]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Uldred, a senior enchanter, is proof that the Harrowing doesn't work. It's just a hookie tool to make the Templar's and the Chantry feel good about themselves with false sense thinking that they're helping the mages to overcome demonic possession.

Uldred didn't fall to demonic temptation in his sleep, which is the situation the Harrowing tests for. He summoned a horror (why would anyone do this?) and wrongly thought he could control it. Most mages don't train in summoning and controling demons (and shouldn't IMO).

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Lord Raijin wrote...
By calling a Dagon Age charater a terrorist is inviting real world politics because terrorism is a RL term. Nowhere did I ever heard this term being used in Dragon Age.

Terrorism is a form of combat that has spanned millenia. Alexander the Great's forces were subjected to those tactics by their enemies. And a terrorist is a term for someone who fights using that style of warfare, just like those who use guerilla warfare are called geurillas.

What you are doing is bringing specific examples into this, and that is what the mod warned us to drop. Their exact words: "This forum is for the discussion of DA Inquisition, not real world events or politics. Please respect that certain groups are censored for a reason and keep discussion focused in the game world so we can keep this thread open."

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 27 décembre 2013 - 07:42 .

[Lulupab]

Lord Raijin wrote...

After Anders blew up the Chantry Meredith, Orsino nor Sebastian called Anders a terrorist... they called him a MURDERER.

In my opinion even if you decide to kill him Anders is a Martyr. Ironically he has an ability named martyr. He did something for all mages and he was ready to die for it. Feel free to call him whatever you want  but its YOUR opinion and its not a fact as it can never be one since you will never know what mages suffer. I don't claim I do but I don't go around throwing the word terrorist.

[Lord Raijin]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
By calling a Dagon Age charater a terrorist is inviting real world politics because terrorism is a RL term. Nowhere did I ever heard this term being used in Dragon Age.

Terrorism is a form of combat that has spanned millenia. Alexander the Great's forces were subjected to those tactics by their enemies. And a terrorist is a term for someone who fights using that style of warfare, just like those who use guerilla warfare are called geurillas.

What you are doing is bringing specific examples into this, and that is what the mod warned us to drop. Their exact words: "This forum is for the discussion of DA Inquisition, not real world events or politics. Please respect that certain groups are censored for a reason and keep discussion focused in the game world so we can keep this thread open."

I know what a terrorist is so I don't need you to explain it to me. The moment that I would agree that what Anders did was an act of terrorism is when someone points me over to a link to one of Davids post confirming that what Anders did was an act of terrorism.

I want to see David calling Anders a terrorist.