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MaxCrushmore

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So I unlocked the BF3 soldier on an alt account and took him PUGging for a few matches the other day.

Wow, he's really powerful. I know he's been mentioned on the forum before, but considering the obsession with deeps on BSN, I would think he should be discussed more.

I'm running him with the Talon I (and a l1 extended clip is the only mod I have). I have 2 points in AR and 5 in fitness.

Carnage then frag grenade creates a powerful combo detonation which doesn't register in the killfeed. Doesn't look like a FE or a TB, so I'm unsure what it officially is, but it's sure effective.

The base human frag grenades are OP as hell, high base damage plus a 6.5 meter radius on a no delay explosion (or very minimal if not directly contacting an enemy)

Anyone have any playstyle suggestions or other build for him?

Modifié par MaxCrushmore, 19 décembre 2013 - 10:37 .


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All of this post challenges what I believe to be reality.

OT, it's a fire explosion.

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MaxCrushmore

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Tokenusername wrote...

All of this post challenges what I believe to be reality.

OT, it's a fire explosion.


Yes, I assumed it was officially a fire explosion, but the graphic for an FE wasn't happening, nor was it registering in the killfeed.

Considering how powerful the QME is; it looks like the BF3 soldiers combo does even more damage (including the damage of the powers as well as the explosion)

On my primary account I believe I still have the 'new' label above the character. I would recommend giving him a try

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I have no points in Carnage... Geth Scanner and Drill Rounds for a Crusader with Shredder and High Velocity mods.

Wallhacking is fun.

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MofuggerX wrote...

I have no points in Carnage

You're a bad person.

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MofuggerX wrote...

I have no points in Carnage... Geth Scanner and Drill Rounds for a Crusader with Shredder and High Velocity mods.

Wallhacking is fun.


With Carnage having pitiful symmetry on a couple of its other kits, this seemed like the character to spec it onto.

I mean, your build is something any weapon platform can do, but carnage/frag grenade combo is only available on this character ...

I'm sure you've tried it this way also ..

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Venom (when you unlock it) Inc rds. Carnage or/then Grenade. Repeat.

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Might just give your build a shot Max, I haven't really ever played this character.

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No fitness BF3 Soldier is a lot of fun. You can actually Claymore>Claymore>Carnage>Frag>Claymore without interruption on him if you time it right. I found out about that from this video.

The timing is a bit tricky to nail down, and not much will live long enough for that combo to be useful though. It is great against spawns of reapers and collectors, however. I go full damage on AR, though it's overkill to be honest. Works fine on platinum if you have some cyclonic IV's lying around.

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I love the kit, haven't ran it in a while though. Hes a fire explosion factory.

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smeckie

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I'm a little old and can't always keep up with the lingo, but what is deeps?

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It doesn't work well with Rush use in my opinion. Frags stagger better, too.

I don't need anybody to agree because I don't care, but you asked folks to share their setups and I did.

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MofuggerX wrote...

It doesn't work well with Rush use in my opinion. Frags stagger better, too.

I don't need anybody to agree because I don't care, but you asked folks to share their setups and I did.

There are three kits with Adrenaline Rush and Frag grenades. Only one has both and carnage.

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smeckie wrote...

I'm a little old and can't always keep up with the lingo, but what is deeps?

DPS.  Damage Per Second

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MofuggerX wrote...

It doesn't work well with Rush use in my opinion. Frags stagger better, too.

I don't need anybody to agree because I don't care, but you asked folks to share their setups and I did.

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I don't have carnage on him. Javelin X with heavy barrel and armor piercing mod. Gotta kill that trooper hiding behind 3 meters of concrete.

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Slojack wrote...

smeckie wrote...

I'm a little old and can't always keep up with the lingo, but what is deeps?

DPS.  Damage Per Second

Oh! I didn't know DPS morphed into Deeps.  Ty

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Carnage, grenade, venom with incendiary, grenade. Serious deeps!

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I like him without fitness and a Venom, Claymore or Wraith. And IA for 2 quick FEs.

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smeckie wrote...

Slojack wrote...

smeckie wrote...

I'm a little old and can't always keep up with the lingo, but what is deeps?

DPS.  Damage Per Second

Oh! I didn't know DPS morphed into Deeps.  Ty

Deeps is the phonetic pronunciation of DPS, as lawl is the phonetic pronunciation of LOL.

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@Smeckie - Deeps is slang for DPS

@Moby - agreed with it not working well with AR .. I only have 2 points in it because A) As a new account and char, it started with a point already in it and B) For the once or twice a match where I want an instant reload and extra fire rate, plus C) Even though I could take the 3rd evo, I don't want the extra duration on it as I want to get back to spamming carnage with this build

@Slojack - Venom sounds interesting on this character .. i'll have to keep in mind for when I unlock

@Orc - he is a surprisingly fun character to play

@Dasfranken - with the build I am currently using, I do not have much need for AR (although I guess I could forgo fitness and use AR to buff my DR and shields when needed .. hmmm)

@Pint - Yes, he is a really fun, offensively powerful kit to play

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Tokenusername wrote...

smeckie wrote...

Slojack wrote...

smeckie wrote...

I'm a little old and can't always keep up with the lingo, but what is deeps?

DPS.  Damage Per Second

Oh! I didn't know DPS morphed into Deeps.  Ty

Deeps is the phonetic pronunciation of DPS, as lawl is the phonetic pronunciation of LOL.

Thanks Bra!  Lol I think I'm getting hang of it :)

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MaxCrushmore wrote...

agreed with it not working well with AR .. I only have 2 points in it because A) As a new account and char, it started with a point already in it and B) For the once or twice a match where I want an instant reload and extra fire rate, plus C) Even though I could take the 3rd evo, I don't want the extra duration on it as I want to get back to spamming carnage with this build


The 2/6/6/6/5 build is perfectly viable, and quite a few people have mentioned it here.

2/6/6/6/5 is generally agreed to be better than 3/6/6/6/5 for the reasons you mentioned.

Personally, I'm running 0/6/6/6/6, but I might switch to the 2/6/6/6/5 one day.

One thing to mention is that carnage is both a primer and a detonator, so using disruptor or incendiary ammo to add more explosions to the mix is worthwhile.

Shoot(ammo prime)->carnage(ammo detonation+FE prime)->frag grenade(fire explosion).

I personally find disruptor ammo to be more reliable at getting two detonations per cast cycle, but I've seen incendiary ammo used effectively too.

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No love for Power use?

Modifié par Tokenusername, 19 décembre 2013 - 11:50 .


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