157 réponses à ce sujet

[Dreadstruck]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Well, I don't think you're playing an ordinary person as a "lead".

Well, actually from what I've seen, he *is* pretty much ordinary from the gameplay perspective. Apart from the fact that you control him

Which frankly, doesn't really justify the whole ordeal of making him a woman, just for the sake of making him/her stand out as much as he/she can.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 26 janvier 2014 - 12:10 .

[Nerdage]

slimgrin wrote...

I can't believe they came right out and made it a stretch goal.

I can't believe they made it a stretch goal tier of its own but it's not actually for the main character, it seems like a compromise which satisfies nobody.

I wonder what's so uniquely manly about the main story that it only works for a man anyway, because unless it literally involves his penis I'm not really seeing a good reason on the Kickstarter... Besides being able to use tired gender stereotypes as a cheap "gritty realism" dispenser, of course, which is my first instinct.

That plus "the storytelling styles of The Witcher and Red Dead Redemption"  keeps me from backing this, or even buying it when it's released, in all likelihood, as cool as "ArmA with an RPG makeover" sounds.

[Vort3xX]

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

[Nerdage]

Vort3xX wrote...

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

There's this, if that counts as something.

[The Big Red One]

Pledged. Looks promising. Finally some proper Middle Ages RPG!

[The Big Red One]

nerdage wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I can't believe they came right out and made it a stretch goal.

I can't believe they made it a stretch goal tier of its own but it's not actually for the main character, it seems like a compromise which satisfies nobody.

I wonder what's so uniquely manly about the main story that it only works for a man anyway, because unless it literally involves his penis I'm not really seeing a good reason on the Kickstarter... Besides being able to use tired gender stereotypes as a cheap "gritty realism" dispenser, of course, which is my first instinct.
That plus "the storytelling styles of The Witcher and Red Dead Redemption" keeps me from backing this, or even buying it when it's released, in all likelihood, as cool as "ArmA with an RPG makeover" sounds.

this is not about being "manly", but about the authenticity which Warhorse seems to strive for. They're not gonna throw that out of the window for the sake of fanservice.
And so what if Dan actually wants to go for the "gritty realism"? God forbid that someone wants to make an authentic (perhaps semi-realistic) RPG set in the (sexist) middle ages with all its ups and downs and not some tired, low/high-fantasy repetition that we've seen and played for the umptmillionth time and which also tries to appeal to everyone. Call it a niche if you want, I am just glad there is finally a game that has a vision and goes with it no matter what. For warrior babes, I have other games.

Modifié par The Big Red One, 26 janvier 2014 - 01:55 .

[Vort3xX]

nerdage wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

There's this, if that counts as something.

Interesting thank you still hope.

[Nerdage]

The Big Red One wrote...

nerdage wrote...

I can't believe they made it a stretch goal tier of its own but it's not actually for the main character, it seems like a compromise which satisfies nobody.

I wonder what's so uniquely manly about the main story that it only works for a man anyway, because unless it literally involves his penis I'm not really seeing a good reason on the Kickstarter... Besides being able to use tired gender stereotypes as a cheap "gritty realism" dispenser, of course, which is my first instinct.
That plus "the storytelling styles of The Witcher and Red Dead Redemption" keeps me from backing this, or even buying it when it's released, in all likelihood, as cool as "ArmA with an RPG makeover" sounds.

this is not about being "manly", but about the authenticity which Warhorse seems to strive for. They're not gonna throw that out of the window for the sake of fanservice.
And so what if Dan actually wants to go for the "gritty realism"? God forbid that someone wants to make an authentic (perhaps semi-realistic) RPG set in the (sexist) middle ages with all its ups and downs and not some tired, low/high-fantasy repetition that we've seen and played for the umptmillionth time and which also tries to appeal to everyone. Call it a niche if you want, I am just glad there is finally a game that has a vision and goes with it no matter what. For warrior babes, I have other games.

I don't think a female character creation option pushes the game hopelessly into fantasy territory, nor does it necessarily do anything to damage authenticity, not unless they do something stupid like chainmail bikinis.

Any RPG which boasts a non-linear story and player freedom but overlooks what I'd consider a fundamental character creation option already has very different priorities to me when it comes to what "RPG" actually means, and, given that it's the story they want to tell that apparently made that option impossible in the first place, what "player freedom" means too.

(I'm not arguing what an RPG is/isn't, just what I look for)

And I put "gritty realism" in quotes because I meant it euphemistically; I see it as a gimmick usually, where developers just make a setting as bleak and depressing as possible and call it "realism". It's nothing to do with the game not being fantasy, just me being cynical. That said, I put a lot in quotes anyway.

[HiroVoid]

Yeah. I find the female expansion pack stretch goal a bit weird too since that's not actually what people who want to play as a female character are interested in. People who ask for that want to play as the main campaign as a female and not be forced to play as a male; not play as a female for a prologue chapter.

Of course, in the end, the vision for the game is in the hands of the game devs. I simply choose if the game in particular looks like one I'd be interested in playing. There're also other reasons they may not be able to do more than one gender like having to do voice acting for two characters. If the setting is indeed sexist in places, it would make sense that a female would never be allowed in some places or organizations under any condition. They would also probably have to make armor models and possibly new animations as well to account for a new body type.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Vort3xX wrote...

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

No, it's people who rage agaisnt any DRM that should be ashamed.

[AventuroLegendary]

Avalla'ch wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Well, I don't think you're playing an ordinary person as a "lead".

Well, actually from what I've seen, he *is* pretty much ordinary from the gameplay perspective. Apart from the fact that you control him

Which frankly, doesn't really justify the whole ordeal of making him a woman, just for the sake of making him/her stand out as much as he/she can.

Eh, true. If they can nail down AI to the point where the game convinces me I'm not anything special (initially), then that would emphasize it clearly.

[slimgrin]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

No, it's people who rage agaisnt any DRM that should be ashamed.

To each their own. On principle I only back a KS if it's going to be DRM free. Made an exception this time based on their creative vision and the fact they've said they would like to.

On the female PC, I'm not sure it was such a good idea if it's ultimately meant to go nowhere. It won't make the game any worse but people want a fully playable female and it's not going to be feasible in this type of game.

Modifié par slimgrin, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:45 .

[Vort3xX]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

Sees nothing about it being drm free !, okay this game should never see the light and the developers should be ashamed.

No, it's people who rage agaisnt any DRM that should be ashamed.

Well you're free to play your drm games if you wish ! but i'm sick of the annoying sh!t that's drm, it brings nothing but trouble and that's why i don't back them since i want to play when i want and where i want not run into daily error messages and losing connection in certain game that requires it being online, steam, uplay etc is tolerable at best.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:54 .

[Liamv2]

DRM should die in a fire. It's supposed to stop piracy but all it does is hurt paying players.

[wsandista]

DRM is in? Then they can find someone else to fund their game.

[Dreadstruck]

wsandista wrote...
DRM is in? Then they can find someone else to fund their game.

Jesus christ in the sky, you people should really learn how to read instead of skimming through the topic to the last two messages.

DRM is not confirmed and the devs seem to be in favour of non-DRM (judging by their posts around FB, KS and elsewhere).

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 26 janvier 2014 - 10:51 .

[superdeathdealer14]

Just pledged 200 dollars.

[Dreadstruck]

500k is in. Can't wait for some of those Czech Philharmonic orchestra tunes.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 27 janvier 2014 - 09:56 .

[Liamv2]

Wow that was fast. Not as quick as broken age or project eternity but still quite fast.

[Dreadstruck]

A new KS update with Q&A

Allright.... not really liking the fact we can't change the protagonist's face (apart from hair and that's only during the course of game, so I am guessing barbers)

.. seems like they are going the Tommy Angelo/Gothic hero/Geralt route for this one. Oh well

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 28 janvier 2014 - 12:12 .

[Dreadstruck]

New video update (some gameplay included) - Our World.

[Han Shot First]

*Logs in*

*Dies of smallpox*


Awwww, man!


*throws controller*

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 janvier 2014 - 01:15 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Well, I'm sure it won't take long for the wails to start up about how Serious You Guys, womyn warriors were super common in XVth century Central Europe, you just don't hear about them because The Patriarchy once they close in on the 600,000 pound mark, but it seems like a decent enough compromise (and you know the old saying about how a good compromise leaves everyone unhappy).

I'm leery of the first person combat since I never could get terribly into The Elder Scrolls, but it definitely seems worth keeping an eye on. It's also worth noting that the Kickstarter isn't funding the entire game - it's basically a way to prove to their investor that the interest is there and to pony up the remainder of the development costs.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Looks like Mount & Blade on steroids. Despite my usual lack of confidence in Kickstarters I am willing to throw some money at this one.

[Noctis Augustus]

Why the bloody fetish with the Medieval era? Every game is the same... Many people say they are tired of generic and cliche concepts, yet this is the most generic of them all.