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[ME123insanity]

 Hi all! Before I go off about the 2018 mission you can donate too, let me tell you a little bit about Mars One so you're not out of the loop...

Mars One is a not-for-profit foundation that will establish a permanent human settlement on Mars. Human settlement on Mars is possible today with existing technologies. Mars One mission plan integrates components that are well tested and readily available from industry leaders worldwide. The first footprint on Mars and lives of the crew thereon will captivate and inspire generations; it is this public interest that will help finance this human mission to Mars.

The Mars One mission plan consists of cargo missions and unmanned preparation of a habitable settlement, followed by human landings. In the coming years, a demonstration mission, communication satellites, two rovers and several cargo missions will be sent to Mars. These missions will set up the outpost where the human crew will live and work.

The mission design takes into account the expansion of the human colony where a new crew arrive every two years.

Mars One will select and train the human crew for permanent settlement. The search for Astronauts began in April 2013. More than 78,000 registered for the selection program within two weeks of its launch.

Stichting Mars One is a Dutch non-for-profit foundation. It is the mother company of Interplanetary Media Group, a for-profit company, which enables the foundation to secure funds from its investors.

History

In 2011, the founding members of the Mars One team came together to develop a strategic plan for taking humanity to Mars. That first year yielded the completion of a feasibility study after calling upon experts from space agencies and private aerospace corporations around the world. Written letters of interest in support of the Mars One plan were received. In this first-stage analysis, Mars One incorporated technical, financial, social-psychological and ethical components into its foundation plan.

After securing the first investments and commissioning the first conceptual design study in 2012, Mars One was ready to launch its Astronaut Selection Program. It was launched at press conferences in New York and Shanghai in April 2013.

For more info go to this website:http://www.mars-one.com/en/

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Ok so now that you know what I'm talking about heres what you can help them with...

Mars One has contracted Lockheed Martin to build the first Mars lander, and Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd. (SSTL) to build the communications satellite that will orbit Mars for the 2018 mission. They have a campaign going with a goal of $40,000 and would like anyone and everyone that can help to donate to them for the mission. If you do decide to donate you will get a number of perks. Donation amounts are $10-25,000, visit the website for more info.

The first boots on Mars will be the greatest accomplishment of our species, but we cant do it alone, now is you're chance to participate in mankind's greatest endeavor of our history! 

http://igg.me/at/marsone/x/5710637

And please, If you can, let all you're friends and family know about Mars One and what they need you're help with! 

Modifié par ME123insanity, 20 décembre 2013 - 04:49 .

[OdanUrr]

I guess hope does spring eternal.

[Vort3xX]

No way in hell, do not give a damn.

[Sigma Tauri]

Ummmm...I like oxygen, atmosphere, and the colors green and blue.

[mybudgee]

There = a distant place

Their = something belonging to a person

[ME_Fan]

Seriously, what is the point? Seems like a waste of money that would be better spent towards other problems in the real world.

[Red Panda]

ME_Fan wrote...

Seriously, what is the point? Seems like a waste of money that would be better spent towards other problems in the real world.

If we spent money helping those that cannot help themselves, then we'd be just
a race of backwards gabsters. Let's be serious, Mars is the real world, it is no fantasy. Staying on one planet is asking for extinction.


Humanity must expand, no matter the cost.

[Beerfish]

LOL, people slamming the funding of an actual inserting research project and checking up on all of the kick starter games they have handed cash to.

[Naughty Bear]

How long will it take for the first settlers to kill each other? No thank you.

[IllusiveManJr]

What about the aliens that are there already?

[Naughty Bear]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

What about the aliens that are there already?

Just play music, that normally kills 'em.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 20 décembre 2013 - 04:43 .

[ME123insanity]

mybudgee wrote...

There = a distant place

Their = something belonging to a person

Yeah it was a misspell.

[ME123insanity]

ME_Fan wrote...

Seriously, what is the point? Seems like a waste of money that would be better spent towards other problems in the real world.

The point of this is, to stop living under a rock and start exploring what is out there. Why wouldn't you want to know what else is out there? It's the next frontier! And with the growing population Earth wont be able to support so many for such a long time anyways.

[Fast Jimmy]

Five hundred years ago, people said "why do you want to sail West? All you're going to do is either wind up in India, which we can already do, or fall off the face of the earth!" It led to the world becoming aware of two entirely new continents, which changed the perception of the world forever.

One hundred years ago, people said "why do you want to go to Alaska? There's nothing up there but frost and ice." There wound up being more gold, oil and natural reserves there than most of the rest of the continental US combined.

Fifty years ago, people said "why put a man on the moon? No one cares about reaching some big rock in the sky." The Apollo and other space programs laid the foundation for computers, wireless technology, satellites and about a thousand other technological advances that define our world today.

Exploration has been humanity's mandate since the dawn of time. It challenges us, drives us, defines us. It has been the source of many of our greatest innovations and the accomplishments we have as landmarks in our progression as a species. It goes hand-in-hand with science and the understanding of our existence. And it is the sole reason we have arisen as the apex species on the planet, by constantly moving, progressing, exploring and surviving.

Space is that next step. We are on the edge of our tribal village, looking at the forest line just outside and wondering how far it goes on. We are at the top of the tallest hill... now seeing that there are giant mountains to explore that dwarf the hills we have climbed. We are on the edge of a beach, staring at an endlesa ocean and beginning to dream to travel across it and to dive into its depths.

There is no greater charity to give than to sacrifice safety and security to pioneer a new frontier. There is no greater plan for the future than to place your feet where no one has walked and dig with your hands where no eye has seen. And there is no greater gift to give the children of the future than taming an entire planet and giving it to them to sustain the species.

Space exploration isn't just a good thing... it's the ONLY thing. It provides room for us to grow when our planet is starting to be strained, it spurs our science when we have just begin unlockingnits true potential, it provides unlimited resources when the economy is beginning to see less and it captivates the imagination at a time when the spark of hope is waning.

Mars fo' life!

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

China will do it. Their money, their achievement. But you can take a share in this achievement by start being a venerator of China.

For now, you must focus on being more economical and pay your debts to China.

[Fast Jimmy]

Kaiser Arian wrote...

China will do it. Their money, their achievement. But you can take a share in this achievement by start being a venerator of China.

For now, you must focus on being more economical and pay your debts to China.

MarsOne is actually a non-governmental organization and is actually funded by a billionaire in Europe, not the Unitsd States. 

Besides, China just dipped its toes into a moon landing. They are decades away from a extra-planetary base. 

[Br3admax]

Fun fact: China is on the bottom of my venerate for list.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

They'll grow faster in "Space Traveling" than it should be (not the ~35 years it took for the Americans after landing on the Moon), because of contemporary technological advances.
In 5 years they may land on Mars and few years later they may send astronauts to Mars. Think about the attraction these projects has for China's program. They can absorb the scientists in these fields from Japan, Korea and Russia to help them in this process.

So it will be a close call in human landing on Mars if there is a space race between "Europe" and "China".

[Br3admax]

A decade is being very generous with anyone landing on Mars.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Br3ad wrote...

A decade is being very generous with anyone landing on Mars.

Can Iran, Egypt, New Zealand, Kenya or Argentina make it on time? (They're not the worst countries in the world)

[Bugsie]

ME_Fan wrote...

Seriously, what is the point? Seems like a waste of money that would be better spent towards other problems in the real world.

You assume that the same charitable types who support expanding our horizons in space don't feel as charitable towards problems in the 'real world'.  That is not necessarily true.  And 'real world' seems like a silly thing to say, given human curiosity is very much part of the real world.

[Fast Jimmy]

Buggirl70 wrote...

ME_Fan wrote...

Seriously, what is the point? Seems like a waste of money that would be better spent towards other problems in the real world.

You assume that the same charitable types who support expanding our horizons in space don't feel as charitable towards problems in the 'real world'.  That is not necessarily true.  And 'real world' seems like a silly thing to say, given human curiosity is very much part of the real world.

Also, "the real world" becomes an antiquated term when the human race lives on multiple worlds. 

What's "the real world" in that context?

[ME_Fan]

Frankly I'd rather donate money to help resolve issues like, famine, disease and child cancer, rather than some stupidly expensive, futile attempt to put some researchers in a can and send them to a lifeless desert for a year or two. Now if people want to donate money to that fine, I have no problem with that. They have the choice and freedom to do so. The way I see it though, is how many lives could those billions of dollars from a mars mission have saved? How many children could have had food on their plates rather than starve for another day? Maybe, maybe, once we've solved all our issues in the world today, with balanced food distribution, and a more tolerant, unified, and rational mankind, we can all look together towards something greater, exploring the stars, or whatever that may be. For now though, don't kid yourselves. I certainly wont be donating money to such a cause while there are still people starving and dying from disease that I can help. That's my 'real world' view. But to each their own, if others want to, fine. They have the freedom, and it's not my place to argue.

Modifié par ME_Fan, 21 décembre 2013 - 11:56 .

[Fast Jimmy]

ME_Fan wrote...

Frankly I'd rather donate money to help resolve issues like, famine, disease and child cancer, rather than some stupidly expensive, futile attempt to put some researchers in a can and send them to a lifeless desert for a year or two. Now if people want to donate money to that fine, I have no problem with that. They have the choice and freedom to do so. The way I see it though, is how many lives could those billions of dollars from a mars mission have saved? How many children could have had food on their plates rather than starve for another day? Maybe, maybe, once we've solved all our issues in the world today, with balanced food distribution, and a more tolerant, unified, and rational mankind, we can all look together towards something greater, exploring the stars, or whatever that may be. For now though, don't kid yourselves. I certainly wont be donating money to such a cause while there are still people starving and dying from disease that I can help. That's my 'real world' view. But to each their own, if others want to, fine. They have the freedom, and it's not my place to argue.

There will never be a time when every problem is solved. Ever. EVER.

If explorers had waited until the nobility no longer oppressed the peasants and democratic rule was omni-present, no one would have ever boarded a ship to visit the New World. If colonists had waited until every disease was cured before trying to explore the American Frontier, the 13 colonies would be all that existed. If civilizations had waited until enough resources were present so that no one was ever hungry, or poor, or uneducated, then the human race would have died out millenia ago.

And that's the problem - humanity's time on this planet is borrowed. The amount of starvation, disease and poverty on this planet now, while tragic, is a pittance on what it will be if a planet-level natural disaster (such as a comet or global flooding) hits and the entire species has its eggs in one basket. We are exhausting its resources at a pace we can't sustain... period. It is 100% unsustainable. Even with the most careful planning and enforcement, this planet will not survive humanity another 200, 500, 1,000 years. Our rate of growth, both in terms of numbers as well as consumption, is too large to live here. 

The only solution is extinciton or expansion, in the longest of long terms. Humanity will die on this rock if we don't get off it. To say we need to fix every conceivable problem before looking to pioneer the technology, skills and foundations of a space occupying race is insane... it is like making sure to brush your teeth while the boat you are on is sinking. What comfort will clean teeth give you when death slowly begins creeping up to your door, to take your life, your family, your friends... that's the future we are leaving behind. One where we said "video games that have $10,000 pledge tiers are awesome, but a $400,000 Kickstarter to try the first attempt at colonizing a non-native planet is wasteful."

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 22 décembre 2013 - 03:01 .