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#176
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daveliam wrote...

Has anyone else ever read the Dwarves series of books by Markus Heitz?  He's a german author and his series takes place in a world where dwarves play a pretty significant role.  The protagonist, most of his companions, and many of the powerful side characters are dwarves.  It's really engaging and complex, but suffers a bit from translation issues.  The main character has an active romantic life as well, always with dwarven females.  I love it because that's so rare to see in many fantasy books. 


Not familiar with him. Do you know if his books are translated to English?

While they weren't main characters, I thought Guy Gavriel Kay treated Dwarves very well in the Fionavar Tapestry. Sapkowski's Dwarves aren't just your typical comic relief, although they're fairly sterotypical as far as their appearance/culture goes. I've not read the Warhammer books, but heard there are a couple good ones centering on Dwarves as well.

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Perhaps its because of books like these (and the Dwarven Nations Trilogy in Dragonlance) that allows me to be more open to dwarf romance.  When not just relegated to comical aggressive drunkard supporting characters, I think dwarves are just as interesting to explore as characters.   Varric is a nice step in that direction because he's much more than just "the dwarf" of the team.  I'm cool with him not being romanceable, so that's not what I'm advocating for.  I would like to see them another step in that direction by introducing a romanceable dwarf at some point.  Again, not a dwarf just to romance, but a well crafted dwarven character whose story would be enhanced by allowing us to explore it by becoming closer to them.  I'd personally prefer a guy dwarf (since I usually play for m/m romances), but it might be more well received if it were a female.  While I, personally, wouldn't romance her with "canon" playthrough, I would definitely create a character specifically to do so if that were to happen.


I love Dwarves and tend to play them more than any other race when they're available as an option (actually currently doing another run through DA:O with a female Dwarf noble Rogue). As for romances, I've come to feel kind of 'meh' about them. I certainly wouldn't advocate against them, but I'd far rather see a well crafted, non-comic-relief, non-sterotypical Dwarf character or characters than than just another romanceable companion that happens to be a Dwarf.

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Eurypterid wrote...

Not familiar with him. Do you know if his books are translated to English?

While they weren't main characters, I thought Guy Gavriel Kay treated Dwarves very well in the Fionavar Tapestry. Sapkowski's Dwarves aren't just your typical comic relief, although they're fairly sterotypical as far as their appearance/culture goes. I've not read the Warhammer books, but heard there are a couple good ones centering on Dwarves as well. 


I just replied but I left it as a comment on your wall, so we don't derail the thread.  :D


Eurypterid wrote...

I love Dwarves and tend to play them more than any other race when they're available as an option (actually currently doing another run through DA:O with a female Dwarf noble Rogue). As for romances, I've come to feel kind of 'meh' about them. I certainly wouldn't advocate against them, but I'd far rather see a well crafted, non-comic-relief, non-sterotypical Dwarf character or characters than than just another romanceable companion that happens to be a Dwarf.


Agreed on this as well, but I really just want to assume that all of the characters. regardless of whether they are a LI or not, will be well-written.  Bioware does that pretty well, so I have faith in them about that.

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If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.

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Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


It depends on how interesting a character she has become since DAO.

Although...I have been wanting a female dwarf companion for a long time.

I would prefer a new character, but I guess she's okay. If the writers decided to include her.

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Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


That seems a bit impossible. Up until now all our romanceable companions are fighting with the protagonist in their adventures. Dagna has not received martial training, as a miner caste dwarf, and if she goes to the Circle she cannot learn to cast any spells either.

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Viktoria Landers wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


That seems a bit impossible. Up until now all our romanceable companions are fighting with the protagonist in their adventures. Dagna has not received martial training, as a miner caste dwarf, and if she goes to the Circle she cannot learn to cast any spells either.


It's been at least 10 years since DAO. The templars could have trained her.

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The only dwarves I would ever romance are Thorin Oakenshield and Kili. I don't like the DA ones.

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MasterScribe wrote...

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


That seems a bit impossible. Up until now all our romanceable companions are fighting with the protagonist in their adventures. Dagna has not received martial training, as a miner caste dwarf, and if she goes to the Circle she cannot learn to cast any spells either.


It's been at least 10 years since DAO. The templars could have trained her.


They could have, but she shows no interest in combat. Dagna's an academic - she'll almost certainly join the Inquisition (or at least be an associate), but in a supply/research/advisory role. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 05 janvier 2014 - 11:09 .


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Angrywolves wrote...

Anders was stupid/had been retconned.

Yes some players want to romance Varric.

I don't but but some players do.

If Bianca is still alive that won't happen.



Hahahaha this is the funnist quote on the fourm right now.

#185
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MasterScribe wrote...

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


That seems a bit impossible. Up until now all our romanceable companions are fighting with the protagonist in their adventures. Dagna has not received martial training, as a miner caste dwarf, and if she goes to the Circle she cannot learn to cast any spells either.


It's been at least 10 years since DAO. The templars could have trained her.


The templars train only one of their own. I am having a hard time thinking that Dagna would be interested to serve the Order and the Maker :unsure:

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Viktoria Landers wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


That seems a bit impossible. Up until now all our romanceable companions are fighting with the protagonist in their adventures. Dagna has not received martial training, as a miner caste dwarf, and if she goes to the Circle she cannot learn to cast any spells either.


It's been at least 10 years since DAO. The templars could have trained her.


The templars train only one of their own. I am having a hard time thinking that Dagna would be interested to serve the Order and the Maker :unsure:


They would still likely train her, since she works around mages. Combat skills are important.

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hawkman96j wrote...

From what I've read, it seems that Mr. Gaider frowns upon dwarf romances. But maybe we'll get lucky this time. ;)



Bioware games have had gay/lesbian romances and alien/human romances. Why so afraid of dwarf romance?

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Lunch Box1912 wrote...

Bioware games have had gay/lesbian romances and alien/human romances. Why so afraid of dwarf romance?


I think frowns is the wrong word, but for none dwarf PCs, the animations would be terribly annoying to do and look awkward.  Unless they want to pull a sims 3 where the dwarf poofs a step stool out of thin air.

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Veruin wrote...

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

Bioware games have had gay/lesbian romances and alien/human romances. Why so afraid of dwarf romance?


I think frowns is the wrong word, but for none dwarf PCs, the animations would be terribly annoying to do and look awkward.  Unless they want to pull a sims 3 where the dwarf poofs a step stool out of thin air.



The graphics are getting much better these days, I think they could figure it out.

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Angrywolves wrote...

If Dagna was a party member in DAI how would you feel about it ?
Just asking.


I would love her to bits just like I did Sigrun.  She was adorable and a little optimism would be a nice change.

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Lunch Box1912 wrote...

The graphics are getting much better these days, I think they could figure it out.


Graphics aren't the issue.  It's the animations and the time/effort it takes to do it.  Remember Isabela's intro scene in Da2?  The bar fight?  That had to be very hard and time consuming just to do that.

#192
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Your obviously a dwarf hater if you think it is too much time and effort to put it into the game. Don't bring Isabella into this either dwarf hater.

#193
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Yes.

Or to explain further:

Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance
Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

I want your stumpy
I want your peewees
I want your casteless
As long as their free
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love)

I want your drama
The touch of your hand
I want your lyrium-studded kiss in the sand
I want your love
Love-love-love
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love)

You know that I want you
And you know that I need you
I want it dwarf, your dwarf romance

I want your love and
I want your revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance
(Oh-oh-oh--oh-oh!)
I want your love and
All your lovers' revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance

Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance
Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

I want your darkspawn
I want your design
‘Cause you're a Carta
As long as you're mine
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love-uuhh)

I want your nobles
Your merchant's wares
Want you in my tunnels
Baby you're hair!
I want your love
Love-love-love
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love)

You know that I want you
('Cause I'm a free nug baby!)
And you know that I need you
I want it dwarf, dwarf romance

I want your love and
I want your revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance
(Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!)
I want your love and
All your lovers' revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance

Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance
Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Caught in a dwarf romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

Dig, dig miner baby
Work it
Move that nug crazy

Dig, dig miner baby
Work it
Move that nug crazy

Dig, dig miner baby
Work it
Move that nug crazy

Walk, walk passion baby
Work it
I'm a free nug, baby

I want your love and
I want your revenge
I want your love
I don't wanna be friends

Je veux ton amour
Et je veux ta revanche
J'veux ton amour
I don't wanna be friends
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh!
I don't wanna be friends
(Caught in a dwarf romance)
I don't wanna be friends
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh!
Want your dwarf romance
(Caught in a dwarf romance)
Want your dwarf romance!

I want your love and
I want your revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh!
I want your love and
All your lovers' revenge
You and me could write a dwarf romance

Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Want your dwarf romance
(Caught in a dwarf romance)
Want your dwarf romance

Or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-orzimmar!
Want your dwarf romance
(Caught in a dwarf romance)

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-roma-mamaa!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!
Want your dwarf romance

{with apologies to Lady Gaga}

#194
Lunch Box1912

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When does the remix hit YouTube?