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[Phoenix_Fyre]

 No matter how many times I play Origins, DA2, read the codex I still don't understand the qunrai

I know they're a highly, highly regimented society
being a qunari with magic is a worse fate than being a circle mage or an apostate IMO

I still have no idea what a tal-vasoth is

I just don't get how lore wise a qunari of all people can lead the inquistion, and since I planned to play a female qunari mage..... how would that even begin to make sense? 

Qunari mages= Ketojan 

[Hellion Rex]

Tal-Vashoth are Qunari who have left the Qun. Ergo, being a Qunari in Inquisition means that you are one such being.

[Bullets McDeath]

There are a couple of things to keep in mind.

One, a Qunari is one who follows the way of the Qun. The big, grey-skinned people with horns are techinically Kossith (the name of their race) but they founded the Qun and their whole society is based around it so a lot of people use the terms interchangeably. However, a member of any race could be called Qunari, if they convert to the Qun; Tallis, for example, is an elf, but a Qunari.

Tal-Vashoth are former Qunari who have renounced their ways.

And as Scribe pointed out, Saarebas is the Qunari word for mage and... yeah, being a mage in Qunari society pretty much sucks a big'n. Ketjoan was just the name of one Saarebas in paticular.

Hope that sheds a little light.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Ah, and the Qun is the lifestyle of the Qunari, which anyone can be, based on DA2 right?

An elf, a human, a dwarf, that adhere to the Qun lifestyle are called qunari? I mean, that's what I'm getting from the wiki anyways


So a mage qunari is technically a tal-vashoth, saarebas?

[ElementalFury106]

Simply put, Tal-Vashoth are those who left the Qun.

[Rolling Flame]

Also note that Ketojan isn't a Qunari word or term. It was the name Petrice gave to the Saarebas.

[JasonPogo]

The Quanri Inquisitor will NOT be Tal-Vasoth. That is one who has left the Qun. Our Inquisitor will never have been a part of it. You were never a part of the Qun.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

So a mage qunari is technically a tal-vashoth, saarebas?

Not quite. A Saarebas can still be a member of the Qun, just confined to that role. A Tal-Vashoth Saarebas can technically do whatever it wants like regular Tal-Vashoth. Since they are not members of the Qun, they aren't stuck to the role they were given. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

JasonPogo wrote...

The Quanri Inquisitor will NOT be Tal-Vasoth. That is one who has left the Qun. Our Inquisitor will never have been a part of it. You were never a part of the Qun.

Even the offspring of Tal-Vashoth are considered such by Qunari society. Tal-Vashoth are simply Kossith who do not follow the Qun. Whether that is because they left it or never knew of it is irrelevant.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 22 décembre 2013 - 06:24 .

[Bullets McDeath]

MasterScribe wrote...

Let's NOT add "kossith" into this discussion. The series' writers, the World of Thedas, and the DAWiki all confirm that "kossith" is not a term used to describe the Qunari race. It is an outdated word used only by some scholars and historians for the race that predated the Qunari a long time ago.

Just like the Anglo-Saxons predated the English.

Gotta call 'em something. They're a distinct species.

[ElementalFury106]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Ah, and the Qun is the lifestyle of the Qunari, which anyone can be, based on DA2 right?

An elf, a human, a dwarf, that adhere to the Qun lifestyle are called qunari? I mean, that's what I'm getting from the wiki anyways


So a mage qunari is technically a tal-vashoth, saarebas?

No one is ever called Qunari, unless they are describing their race to one who is uninformed. Everyone who follows the Qun has a name, a name that represents their role in the Qun. For example, the elves and the viscount's son who joined the Qun in Dragon Age 2 were called "Viddithari", meaning outsider who converted to the Qun.

A mage is ONLY tal-vashoth if they personally decided to leave the Qun. Saarebas is the general qunari word for "mage" or "danger."

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Sooooo anyone gonna play a qunari... mage... just to mess with people?

I'm totally debating that making my QMI that because it's such a vastly different background option

So what does the name qunari imply?

Was everything about Sten wrong in Origins then?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

MasterScribe wrote...

Let's NOT add "kossith" into this discussion. The series' writers, the World of Thedas, and the DAWiki all confirm that "kossith" is not a term used to describe the Qunari race. It is an outdated word used only by some scholars and historians for the race that predated the Qunari a long time ago.

Just like the Anglo-Saxons predated the English.

Sorry. Just had to use something else since "Qunari who doesn't follow the Qun" is a contradiction since Qunari is what those who follow the Qun are collectively called.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Sooooo anyone gonna play a qunari... mage... just to mess with people?

I'm totally debating that making my QMI that because it's such a vastly different background option

So what does the name qunari imply?

Was everything about Sten wrong in Origins then?

I plan to play as a Qunari since it will be the most foreign experience and thus the most interesting to experience.

Qunari: Those who follow the Qun.

What do you mean about Sten? His name comes from his title, same as Arishok, Tallis, etc.

[ElementalFury106]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Sooooo anyone gonna play a qunari... mage... just to mess with people?

I'm totally debating that making my QMI that because it's such a vastly different background option

So what does the name qunari imply?

Was everything about Sten wrong in Origins then?

Gonna make a Female Qunari Mage a double insult to the Qun; a female fighter and mage. Can't wait to see how other Qunari react to her.

Qunari means "those who follow the Qun."

What're you specifically talking about with Sten? Nothing was wrong with him.

Modifié par ElementalFury106, 22 décembre 2013 - 06:38 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

ElementalFury106 wrote...
Gonna make a Female Qunari Mage a double insult to the Qun; a female fighter and mage. Can't wait to see how other Qunari react to her.

That will be very fun indeed. 

[Gregolian]

MasterScribe wrote...

The Qunari are a race, according to DAI

At the risk of creating a needless political debate...  but the Qunari are basically the Jews of Dragon Age then?

[karushna5]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Sooooo anyone gonna play a qunari... mage... just to mess with people?

I'm totally debating that making my QMI that because it's such a vastly different background option

So what does the name qunari imply?

Was everything about Sten wrong in Origins then?

The writers have said that Sten is more fanatical than most, in fact if you take him to the circle tower, the other Qunari under his command in his dream were actually fun loving people who wanted him to lighten up as much as your party did, it was implied he was always more strict than most.

I know someone who is going to play a female Qunari Mage, I think somewhere it was said those never part of the Qun are Vashoth, who have their own villages and other things. Vashoth means Grey, Tal-Vashoth means True Grey which is an insult but one many wear with pride.

Very possible that a Mage child would be rescued by Tal Vashoth, also remember the devs said mages and non mages will have different backgrounds due to their different nature.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

karushna5 wrote...
also remember the devs said mages and non mages will have different backgrounds due to their different nature.

Really? That's news to me. Not saying you're lying or anything. Just excited about this new information. 

[andy6915]

ElementalFury106 wrote...

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Sooooo anyone gonna play a qunari... mage... just to mess with people?

I'm totally debating that making my QMI that because it's such a vastly different background option

So what does the name qunari imply?

Was everything about Sten wrong in Origins then?

Gonna make a Female Qunari Mage a double insult to the Qun; a female fighter and mage. Can't wait to see how other Qunari react to her.

Qunari means "those who follow the Qun."

What're you specifically talking about with Sten? Nothing was wrong with him.

I think I'll do the same. I know for a fact that I am picking a female Qunari, that part isn't even in question for me. But I am leaning towards being a mage for the same reason you are. And you're actually a triple insult, you're a female fighter and an unbound mage and a Tal-Vashoth.

Still, I'm not 100% dead set on being a mage yet. I want to see a lot of gameplay of all 3 classes before I commit to any class yet ahead of time. But mage is certainly in the lead so far.