Maddok900 wrote... I would like to see a DA II type of Dragon Age story(with a more mature and enhanced realistic tone) in the future, as I think that's what makes this setting worth the time, of course with a lot better gameplay, dialogue and decisions that actually shape the storyline. Even if it's a lost cause for the Inquisition, though it's still fairly early to tell.
By realistic tone I'm assuming you mean a smaller scale adventure that resolves an important issue in some manner while not necissairly making it seem like the end of the world is near, correct?
I actually have no preferance one way or the other I can quite happily enjoys both large scale and smaller scale journeys but I have to say I don't feel Dargon Age 2 delivered much on the small scale adventure front. It certainly presented many concepts but they felt more like they just happened to take place around you and you had to clean up as opposed to you actually being particulaly invested in the out come.
Let the idiot be the hero. Let him suffer and get hit and maimed and killed. I'll be the guy who prefers going home at the end of the day with my five medals; One head, two arms, and two legs.
Heroic stories are popular ever since first humans started to tell stories, for a very good reason.
I think the joke went over your head boss.
Nope, I knew what you joke you made.
Though it is also problematic in modern stories.
Heroic stories are becoming very meaningless, due to how are shallowly written.
Just wanted to add that point.
True enough. It's not that I'm against the type of heroism that *ahem* a certain gentleman proposes often, but I'm against the idea of it when it is written shallow and not really fleshed out. We don't see the change that the character goes through. I like seeing a balanced character that has a dark side, someone who's much more than a two-dimensional type person. It's why I love the Tenth Doctor so much (and the Ninth and Eleventh). They have their styles and attitudes, but you feel that their is something else, something darker underneath and it is so interesting to see when that starts to surface and take its appearance. And yes, they have their emotional and ethical pet anchors that keep them grounded and succumbing to the darker side of their nature and losing that balance that they hold as characters.
Let the idiot be the hero. Let him suffer and get hit and maimed and killed. I'll be the guy who prefers going home at the end of the day with my five medals; One head, two arms, and two legs.
No, some of us just acknoweldged that the title is likely to draw a certain poster here. It wasn't intentional, but you have to admit its probably going to happen.
True enough. It's not that I'm against the type of heroism that *ahem* a certain gentleman proposes often, but I'm against the idea of it when it is written shallow and not really fleshed out. We don't see the change that the character goes through. I like seeing a balanced character that has a dark side, someone who's much more than a two-dimensional type person. It's why I love the Tenth Doctor so much (and the Ninth and Eleventh). They have their styles and attitudes, but you feel that their is something else, something darker underneath and it is so interesting to see when that starts to surface and take its appearance. And yes, they have their emotional and ethical pet anchors that keep them grounded and succumbing to the darker side of their nature and losing that balance that they hold as characters.
I actually like both but the former, as the video explains, has been done to death. It's also somewhat limited. There's a reason literary conventions have moved on from the monomyth and hero's journey. They aren't very relevant in modern times.
I actually like both but the former, as the video explains, has been done to death. It's also somewhat limited. There's a reason literary conventions have moved on from the monomyth and hero's journey. They aren't very relevant in modern times.
It's not relevant at all, it's just an imaginary situation to make you feel good and warm inside, when you witness hapiness that doesn't exist in the real world.
Heroism is unrealistic. It doesn't exist in real life, only in fiction.
Tell that to all the people that I know that gave their lives for this statement's ability to be said. Every firefighter, every soldier, and every policemen.
Before I start, I'm just going to link a youtube video from Mr.Btongue touching the subject of realism in Witcher and Dragon Age series:
"-Events of the second game kicked of a political and religious turmoil. Aha! -The worlds instutions are weakened and confusued without direction. Aha! -AND THEN A HOLE OPENS IN THE SKY AND DEMONS START POURING OUT! Uh..huh."
This was a spot-on observation that I wanted to discuss for some time now, since the plot of the third game was kind of revealed.
What we have here is Thedas, an allegory of medieval europe that does its job so well it has become one of the very few "fresh" fantasy settings of this decade, as anyone who is into literature can rightfully point out. However, after an "epic" monomyth that worked as a proper introduction, the series is a little lost between literal genres, and its effort to find its character has become tiring for the audience.
What I want to point out is simply this, the whole setting of Thedas is incredibly suitable for magic realism, and I believe that was what the writers intended to do with the second game, a mature and realistic story experience well-fit for Dragon Age.
The failure of DA II was never the scale of the story, or simplicity of it, that was very well done. Incredibly ridiculous dialogue, lack of proper decision-making, weak combat and bla bla, those elements were the downfall of that experience; yet I believe the team might have decided to turn back to the "heroic" origins formula because of the misperception that the tone and the character of the DA II's story were among the failures as well. They were most certainly not.
I would like to see a DA II type of Dragon Age story(with a more mature and enhanced realistic tone) in the future, as I think that's what makes this setting worth the time, of course with a lot better gameplay, dialogue and decisions that actually shape the storyline. Even if it's a lost cause for the Inquisition, though it's still fairly early to tell.
Uh , no it was not very well done. It was a phony Greek-Shakespeaen tragedy knockoff, where nothing Hawke did mattered, not a twit. Nothing mattered. The game was going to end how it ended reagrdless.That left it unsatisfying and incomplete. As we now know the silly March was suppose to complete the game and give substance to the next story.The March was cancelled due to the fact DA2 was considered a bust, a failure. While the reused scenery and ninja style over the top combat get blamed for the game being a failure, I believe the poor writing and plot were more to blame imo. So I don't agree with the OP or the person he's mimicing whose opinon he is quoting.,[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]
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Tell that to all the people that I know that gave their lives for this statement's ability to be said. Every firefighter, every soldier, and every policemen.
I will gladly tell that to their face, if they are still alive.
Tell that to all the people that I know that gave their lives for this statement's ability to be said. Every firefighter, every soldier, and every policemen.
I will gladly tell that to their face, if they are still alive.
Then you deserve to be publicly shamed,if you were trapped in a building set on fire then you would hope someone risked their life to save you.
Tell that to all the people that I know that gave their lives for this statement's ability to be said. Every firefighter, every soldier, and every policemen.
I will gladly tell that to their face, if they are still alive.
The definition of heroism is literally only great bravery. Are you suggesting that great bravery does not exist in real life? Seriously?
Then you deserve to be publicly shamed,if you were trapped in a building set on fire then you would hope someone risked their life to save you.
Sorry, shame doen't exist in my life. I would hope to survive, but a person that risks their life to save mine is a fool. My life is no more valuable than theirs.
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