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[Cainhurst Crow]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

KainD wrote...

I don't like heroism. More realism pls.

I like more realistic heroism. More of that.

Yes please.

[KainD]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

We ended up disagreeing. I won. With a lot of help from my friends.

'' ''Good'' or ''bad'', it‘s all gonna add up in the end but, you can never win. ''

[Angrywolves]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

themikefest wrote...

KainD wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Sure am.

themikefest wrote...
I'm waiting as well

Well in that case: Heroism doesn't exist, and you can never be a hero. 

Tell that to the people who called me one

Quite literally, he is. 

A Desert Shield and Desert Storm Vet.

I'm a Vet of Enduring Freedom. I'm not going to pretend I'm a badass, but I'm not going to say that I'm a temp at some chipper office job either.

As someone who had a brother who served in logistics  20plus years I
will say you are a hero and I respect that, regardless of what others
have said. He is too of course, his work made the US military success
possible, his and other logistics personnel.
I had a chance to go in the military once and said no.I don't like taking orders from anyone.lol.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

KainD wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

We ended up disagreeing. I won. With a lot of help from my friends.

'' ''Good'' or ''bad'', it‘s all gonna add up in the end but, you can never win. ''

We won that day. We kept the guys who want to preach hate and intolerance at bay. We kept the guys who go onto buses and shoot girls for going to school at bay. I mean, it's rather senseless to preach death to someone because they go against your religous dogma regarding women.

[CynicalShep]

All of those sharp edges, gotta tread carefully. Smart people don't exist, good-looking people don't exist, maniacs and terrorists don't exist and KainD lives in lala land. Everything is subjective, therefore nothin exists, hurrdurr. Kain pls

[Br3admax]

I honestly do not know what is worse. Believing only in absolutes in everything, or denying everything that doesn't have one because of subjectivity.

[themikefest]

Angrywolves wrote...
As someone who had a brother who served in logistics  20plus years I
will say you are a hero and I respect that, regardless of what others
have said. He is too of course, his work made the US military success
possible, his and other logistics personnel.
I had a chance to go in the military once and said no.I don't like taking orders from anyone.lol.

Tell your brother, thank you for his service from me.

[Ghost Lightning]

Br3ad wrote...

I honestly do not know what is worse. Believing only in absolutes in everything, or denying everything that doesn't have one because of subjectivity.

This right here.

[KainD]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I mean, it's rather senseless to preach death to someone because they go against your religous dogma regarding women.

Very far from sensless, even if you AND me might personally disagree. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

CynicalShep wrote...

All of those sharp edges, gotta tread carefully. Smart people don't exist, good-looking people don't exist, maniacs and terrorists don't exist and KainD lives in lala land. Everything is subjective, therefore nothin exists, hurrdurr. Kain pls

So nothing is true, and everything is permitted? 

[KainD]

CynicalShep wrote...

All of those sharp edges, gotta tread carefully. Smart people don't exist, good-looking people don't exist, maniacs and terrorists don't exist and KainD lives in lala land. Everything is subjective, therefore nothin exists, hurrdurr. Kain pls

All those things exist in every persons personal lala land. Universally those things do not exist, yes. 

Modifié par KainD, 22 décembre 2013 - 11:15 .

[KainD]

Br3ad wrote...

I honestly do not know what is worse. Believing only in absolutes in everything, or denying everything that doesn't have one because of subjectivity.

Worse is whatever you feel it is. 

[Zerker]

Oh god what have I unleashed.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I think the fact that everyone can agree that they subjectively have those ideas and concepts is what makes them a reality. Even if it is a difference of perspective, everyone at least has the concept of what beauty is, or what intelligence is, or what a hero is. So declaring that because everyone has an idea, that the idea doesn't exist, seems like just plain crazy talk to me.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Br3ad wrote...

I honestly do not know what is worse. Believing only in absolutes in everything, or denying everything that doesn't have one because of subjectivity.

I'm a subjective guy, but I'm also a guy who believes in logic and reason. You can have an opinion, but if you can't back it up with facts, logic, and some kind of proper a priori, that doesn't mean its valid. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Maddok900 wrote...

Oh god what have I unleashed.

This is your folly. 

Look at it. LOOK AT IT AND WEEP!!!!

[KainD]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I think the fact that everyone can agree that they subjectively have those ideas and concepts is what makes them a reality. Even if it is a difference of perspective, everyone at least has the concept of what beauty is, or what intelligence is, or what a hero is. So declaring that because everyone has an idea, that the idea doesn't exist, seems like just plain crazy talk to me.

That would be true if absolutely everyone had an idea of those things, and not everyone do. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Really, as a person who knows full well the type of philosophy that Kain is trying to state, I'm going to state that he's some college kid somewhere who thinks he's clever because he's cynical and carries a copy of Nietzche in his back pocket.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 22 décembre 2013 - 11:18 .

[cjones91]

Maddok900 wrote...

Oh god what have I unleashed.

A debate about whether heroism exists or not.

[CynicalShep]

KainD wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

All of those sharp edges, gotta tread carefully. Smart people don't exist, good-looking people don't exist, maniacs and terrorists don't exist and KainD lives in lala land. Everything is subjective, therefore nothin exists, hurrdurr. Kain pls

All those things exist in every persons personal lala land. Universally those things do not exist, yes. 

Stop right there. Are we arguing semantics, having a philosophy debate or discussing video-game tropes? What if my lala land is very similar to someone else's lala land? What if there's 5 billions of us?

[KainD]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'm a subjective guy, but I'm also a guy who believes in logic and reason. You can have an opinion, but if you can't back it up with facts, logic, and some kind of proper a priori, that doesn't mean its valid. 

Logic is subjective as well.. you make conclusions based on your personal observations, and your personal rationaliations. You say people who kill women for studying are sensless. Clearly those people think that they are in the right and have sound reasoning for their actions, you just don't agree. 

[ruggly]

Wow. Much edge.

[Br3admax]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Really, as a person who knows full well the type of philosophy that Kain is trying to state, I'm going to state that he's some college kid somewhere who thinks he's clever because he's cynical and carries a copy of Nietzche in his back pocket.

And no matter what it is true because his sig says so. Except for when you disagree with him. Then it's just wrong. 

[KainD]

CynicalShep wrote...

Stop right there. Are we arguing semantics, having a philosophy debate or discussing video-game tropes? What if my lala land is very similar to someone else's lala land? What if there's 5 billions of us?

Even the opinion of the majority is not a criteria for truth. 

[Zerker]

ruggly wrote...

Wow. Much edge.

Such arguement.

Modifié par Maddok900, 22 décembre 2013 - 11:23 .