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Heroism vs Realism

Débuté par Zerker , déc. 22 2013 03:55

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#151
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:23

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Br3ad wrote...

Better is subjective, and in this world, better means more combustible.

Fair enough, and that is your choice.

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#152
CynicalShep

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:23

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KainD wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Which is contradictory as there being no truth would in itself be a truth. <_<

That'a an exception that proves the rule.

No.

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#153
Ravensword

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:24

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Surprised David has shown up yet.

Too challenging and too subjective.

You know how he likes things easy and heroic.

The title of the thread is way too blatant.

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#154
Br3admax

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:25

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KainD wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Better is subjective, and in this world, better means more combustible.

Fair enough, and that is your choice.

Wow.

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#155
OdanUrr

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:26

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KainD wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Out of curiosity, what is your definition of "hero"?

Self-sacrificial person, who does things for the greater good.

Putting aside for a moment the fact that said definition is a ~~potentially~~ dangerous one, there have been such people throughout history and are commonplace in everyday life. You probably won't find them wielding a sword or casting a spell though. ^_^

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#156
Guest_JujuSamedi_*

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:26

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ITT: OP is trolling everyone.

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#157
Ghost Lightning

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:27

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KainD wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Which is contradictory as there being no truth would in itself be a truth. <_<

That'a an exception that proves the rule.

Here ya go pal.

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#158
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:30

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

KainD wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Which is contradictory as there being no truth would in itself be a truth. <_<

That'a an exception that proves the rule.

Here ya go pal.

Second time now, I guess I have to break it down for you:

The fact that there is an exception to there being no truth, which is the truth that there is none, it proves that there is no truth.

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#159
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:31

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OdanUrr wrote...

Putting aside for a moment the fact that said definition is a ~~potentially~~ dangerous one, there have been such people throughout history and are commonplace in everyday life. You probably won't find them wielding a sword or casting a spell though.

No because, there is no such thing as greater good, whatever you do, someone is bound to disagree with you, and you won't be a hero for them.

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#160
ruggly

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:32

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KainD wrote...

ruggly wrote...

"Live." Right.

Try doing it more often, maybe you''ll like it.

Assuming that I don't already.

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#161
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:33

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ruggly wrote...

Assuming that I don't already.

So, you get high often? Lol

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#162
Hanako Ikezawa

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:34

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KainD wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Putting aside for a moment the fact that said definition is a ~~potentially~~ dangerous one, there have been such people throughout history and are commonplace in everyday life. You probably won't find them wielding a sword or casting a spell though.

No because, there is no such thing as greater good, whatever you do, someone is bound to disagree with you, and you won't be a hero for them.

In that case, even in fiction there are no heroes. Every hero in fiction has enemies who won't view him/her as a hero.

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#163
Ghost Lightning

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:36

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KainD wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

KainD wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Which is contradictory as there being no truth would in itself be a truth. <_<

That'a an exception that proves the rule.

Here ya go pal.

Second time now, I guess I have to break it down for you:

The fact that there is an exception to there being no truth, which is the truth that there is none, it proves that there is no truth.

Yeah...

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#164
ruggly

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:36

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KainD wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Assuming that I don't already.

So, you get high often? Lol

No.

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#165
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:37

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...
In that case, even in fiction there are no heroes. Every hero in fiction has enemies who won't view him/her as a hero.

No that's exactly the thing in the fiction: Hero enemies aknowledge them as heroes, and think of themselves as the bad guys that do evil for evils sake.

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#166
OdanUrr

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:37

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KainD wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Putting aside for a moment the fact that said definition is a ~~potentially~~ dangerous one, there have been such people throughout history and are commonplace in everyday life. You probably won't find them wielding a sword or casting a spell though.

No because, there is no such thing as greater good, whatever you do, someone is bound to disagree with you, and you won't be a hero for them.

So, for instance, you would say that the Marines who threw themselves on grenades to save the lives of their fellows during WWII weren't heroes?

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#167
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:38

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[quote]ruggly wrote...
No.
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[quote]ruggly wrote...
I feel like I would need to be high to truly enjoy this conversation going on. [/quote]

[quote]KainD wrote...

Try doing it more often, maybe you''ll like it.

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[quote]ruggly wrote...
Assuming that I don't already.
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#168
ruggly

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:39

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Ok chief.

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#169
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:40

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OdanUrr wrote...

So, for instance, you would say that the Marines who threw themselves on grenades to save the lives of their fellows during WWII weren't heroes?

They weren't.

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#170
Hanako Ikezawa

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:41

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KainD wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
In that case, even in fiction there are no heroes. Every hero in fiction has enemies who won't view him/her as a hero.

No that's exactly the thing in the fiction: Hero enemies aknowledge them as heroes, and think of themselves as the bad guys that do evil for evils sake.

There are very few villains who are "evil for evil's sake". The vast majority have motives that they think are right. So to them, the hero of the story is actually the villain standing in the way of their "greater good".

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#171
Zerker

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:41

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THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT DRAGONS AND SH*T YOU F*CKERS

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#172
OdanUrr

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:43

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KainD wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

So, for instance, you would say that the Marines who threw themselves on grenades to save the lives of their fellows during WWII weren't heroes?

They weren't.

Even when they fit your definition for being heroes? They were willing to give their lives to save other Marines what would be the greater good.

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#173
Hanako Ikezawa

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

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@OP: Would you consider Dragon Age: Origins to be more realism or heroism then?

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#174
Cainhurst Crow

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

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Maddok900 wrote...

THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT DRAGONS AND SH*T YOU F*CKERS

THIS IS ALL ON YOU OP!

THIS IS ALL ON YOU!!!

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#175
KainD

Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

There are very few villains who are "evil for evil's sake". The vast majority have motives that they think are right. So to them, the hero of the story is actually the villain standing in the way of their "greater good".

The ones where villians don't aknowledge themselves as the villians are realistic, not heroic.

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Heroism vs Realism

#151 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:23

#152 CynicalShep Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:23

#153 Ravensword Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:24

#154 Br3admax Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:25

#155 OdanUrr Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:26

#156 Guest_JujuSamedi_* Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:26

#157 Ghost Lightning Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:27

#158 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:30

#159 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:31

#160 ruggly Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:32

#161 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:33

#162 Hanako Ikezawa Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:34

#163 Ghost Lightning Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:36

#164 ruggly Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:36

#165 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:37

#166 OdanUrr Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:37

#167 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:38

#168 ruggly Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:39

#169 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:40

#170 Hanako Ikezawa Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:41

#171 Zerker Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:41

#172 OdanUrr Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:43

#173 Hanako Ikezawa Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

#174 Cainhurst Crow Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

#175 KainD Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:44

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