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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

[quote]Morocco Mole wrote...

[quote]1.) The Destroy Ending (ideally the perfect one where you see Shepard take a breath) is THE canon ending. Any other would not allow for much in the way moving the franchise forward.[/quote]

Control would be just as valid for an ending.

[/quote]2.) The protagonist is human. This is for practicality of storylines as being able to choose your race may complicate the game story arc(s) beyond viability.[/quote]

The protagonist will most certainly be a human. But this doesn't exclude race selection. Especially since most Bioware PCs are already very bland and personality less.

[quote]3.) You can loosely control how decisions made in the first trilogy will affect the next series. Obviously, we can't transfer save data this time, so as a compromise, I had this idea. Your character is taking the final exam for the System Alliance Academy. The topic is the Reaper War, and the questions allow you to tailor your experience to roughly approximate what you did in the original trilogy. For example, Did you save the Krogan and who was Clan Leader? Who was your lover and did they survive to the end? Did the Geth and Quarians make peace? Did the Batarians participate in the final battle? Did you save the Council? Was your character widely regarded as a Paragon or a Renegade? [/quote]

I really don't see the need for more imports or bothering with past choices and they should instead just dictate a canon for the past trilogy. Why? They make sequels less interesting and more difficult to make. Want to use krogan or quarians in a bigger capacity? Well, you can't. Because it would go against the choices of other people. It just causes further stagnation and cuts off interesting story possibilities. [/quote]

It could be control... The protagonist could lead resistance fighters fighting against the reaper overlords in the dystopia, but this is limited and dystopias are not fun.

Synthesis is out because it is peace and there is no conflict.

Destroy is the best one because there is the greatest opportunity for conflict. A good plot requires conflict.

The writers just have to grow a pair and write a good story for a change. Shepard's story is over. Choose destroy. And FFS move the Citadel back where it was. Whoops a little space magic. Humans are not special.

[Iakus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The writers just have to grow a pair and write a good story for a change. Shepard's story is over. Choose destroy. And FFS move the Citadel back where it was. Whoops a little space magic. Humans are not special.

Better:

"yes teh Reapers invaded.  Commander Shepard saved us all, now let's never speak of it again"

Don't canonize any ending or any story,  Keep the geth, quarians, krogan, even the batarians round.  Dont' talk about the Crucible, or how the Reapers were stopped, or who lived and died.  The Reapers were stopped.  End of story.

Dont' even allow imports.  Leave Shepard's story in the past and start fresh.

[Kelwing]

Not enough info for me to even get remotely excited yet.

[Michotic]

iakus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The writers just have to grow a pair and write a good story for a change. Shepard's story is over. Choose destroy. And FFS move the Citadel back where it was. Whoops a little space magic. Humans are not special.

Better:

"yes teh Reapers invaded.  Commander Shepard saved us all, now let's never speak of it again"

Don't canonize any ending or any story,  Keep the geth, quarians, krogan, even the batarians round.  Dont' talk about the Crucible, or how the Reapers were stopped, or who lived and died.  The Reapers were stopped.  End of story.

Dont' even allow imports.  Leave Shepard's story in the past and start fresh.

Keeping any races around 'canonizes' endings. Some games ended with the extinction of one (or multiple) races. If these races make an appearance, it renders those choices invalid.

"Oh hey, we're a group of <alien> that split from our main species group, and we restarted our culture," is another cop out. If they are planning on expanding on what happened at the end of ME3, I think they're in for a real challenge because each of the endings creates a much different galaxy, not to mention the choices made over the course of this trilogy.

[Iakus]

Michotic wrote...

Keeping any races around 'canonizes' endings. Some games ended with the extinction of one (or multiple) races. If these races make an appearance, it renders those choices invalid.

"Oh hey, we're a group of <alien> that split from our main species group, and we restarted our culture," is another cop out. If they are planning on expanding on what happened at the end of ME3, I think they're in for a real challenge because each of the endings creates a much different galaxy, not to mention the choices made over the course of this trilogy.

No, keeping the geth around without the Repers canonizes none of the endings.

No synthetic annihilation
No Reaper police force
No glowing green eyes

Do not mention if Shepard lived or died.

Means none of the endings happened.

I honestly think they're not up to the challenge of dealing with the divergences of the series.  they couldn't even handle the divergences within the trilogy itself.

[Iakus]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Except the geth being around canonizes control.

Not if the geth died on Rannoch.

And Synthesis is as possible as Control

You are free to dislike the endings. But sticking your head in the sand and ignoring them isn't only stupid, its bad writing to completely ignore the consequences of them in succeeding games.

It's impossible to go forward without trivializing the endings.  And given they broke the base to begin with, they're best left buried.

So at this point the best bet is ignore them and start over.

[Michotic]

It is possible to annihilate the Geth. It's possible to exterminate the Quarians. It's possible both can be saved. If they are guaranteed to appear in the next game, it canonizes that they were not completely wiped out.

[Gkonone]

I'm probably being Debbie Downer here, but I can't be/ get excited over a game where I won't be seeing Garrus, Liara or any of the old crew again. Let alone Shepard.

[Ome6ablak]

Not trying to be a dirt bag, but for those of you not excited for the game why say anything? Yes we know next to nothing about it but we know it's in development. Which means there's a pretty good chance that the game will be released at some point in time. So I'm excited to see what they bring forth.

[Rusty Sandusky]

Why should I be excited when there's nothing to be excited about. All they've shown us is some screenshots that were deliberately taken to be covered in glare and a BioWare logo. We don't even know what it's name is.

[spirosz]

ThisOnesUsername wrote...

Why should I be excited when there's nothing to be excited about. All they've shown us is some screenshots that were deliberately taken to be covered in glare and a BioWare logo. We don't even know what it's name is.

We do know it has... a lot of mass though, to a certain.. effect.  

[Michotic]

Ome6ablak wrote...

Not trying to be a dirt bag, but for those of you not excited for the game why say anything? Yes we know next to nothing about it but we know it's in development. Which means there's a pretty good chance that the game will be released at some point in time. So I'm excited to see what they bring forth.

Welcome to the internet.

[AlanC9]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Except the geth being around canonizes control.

You are free to dislike the endings. But sticking your head in the sand and ignoring them isn't only stupid, its bad writing to completely ignore the consequences of them in succeeding games.

He's not asking for anyone to stick his head in the sand. He's merely trying to decanonize all existing endings snd canonize MEHEM in their place.

[Andrew Lucas]

Stepping in a new history,new characteres,new places... I'm really looking foward to the new Mass Effect game!!

[JamesFaith]

Ome6ablak wrote...

Not trying to be a dirt bag, but for those of you not excited for the game why say anything? Yes we know next to nothing about it but we know it's in development. Which means there's a pretty good chance that the game will be released at some point in time. So I'm excited to see what they bring forth.

You shouldn't be suprised. 

There already were even threads on BSN using these minimalistic info about ME4 and used them as proof that new game would be horrible.

[spirosz]

JamesFaith wrote...
new game would be horrible.

I thought this was fact? 

[SlottsMachine]

I don't know if excited is the right word, but I'm definitely looking forward to the next Mass Effect at this moment anyway.

[SlottsMachine]

Gkonone wrote...

I'm probably being Debbie Downer here, but I can't be/ get excited over a game where I won't be seeing Garrus, Liara or any of the old crew again. Let alone Shepard.

Haha. Those are the reason I am excited!

[spirosz]

General Slotts wrote...

Gkonone wrote...

I'm probably being Debbie Downer here, but I can't be/ get excited over a game where I won't be seeing Garrus, Liara or any of the old crew again. Let alone Shepard.

Haha. Those are the reason I am excited!

If it has Jack, pre-ordered cancelled. 

[spirosz]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

If the follow the same philosophy as DA:I then I will be excited.

What do yah mean?

Jack, Subject Zero, that type of stuff, tbh.  

[AresKeith]

Perma-cancelled pre-order