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[Rebel Wolf]

Silfren wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

My point was it's not widespread,so outside of qunari culture you won't go up to a ferelden,kirkwall,orlesian merchant and expect him to understand you.
So Fenris quoted the qun and you assume he speaks the whole language why?
I can recite a german song but don't fluently speak the langauge.
A second or third generation tal vashoth or whatever might not know anything of it.
If the qun faith had been around a thousand years he might be so far from it he acts and speaks like where ever he is now.

Unless I'm mistaken, Fenris demonstrates that he actually speaks Qunlat, rather than just reciting rote phrases from the Qun.

I only saw him recite the qun to the arishok...

[Rebel Wolf]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Well, before we go any further into this I have a question.

Why do you care that the players who want to use Qunlat names do so?

I was more curious about the reason.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Well, before we go any further into this I have a question.

Why do you care that the players who want to use Qunlat names do so?

I was more curious about the reason.

Ah, ok. As for a meta reason, I think using a Qunari word for the first name would help the name overall fit better since the last name is Qunlat. Same reason a lot of people playing elves are using Dalish words even on the non-Dalish elves.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:18 .

[AltanIV]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

I think if the Inquisitor's parents were tal vashoth maybe the wouldn't want him to grow up knowing about the qunari culture.
After all that would be a part of what they were trying to escape.

It doesn't stop them from speaking to him/her in their native language. Considering the inquisitor is a Tal-Vashoth of second or third generation.

Modifié par AltanIV, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:19 .

[LinksOcarina]

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

[Rebel Wolf]

UGh,I am so excited about a playing a kossith mage I can barley stand it!
I wonder if we get a lot of constitution?
Tank mage ftw?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:19 .

[Battlebloodmage]

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

[Silfren]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

My point was it's not widespread,so outside of qunari culture you won't go up to a ferelden,kirkwall,orlesian merchant and expect him to understand you.
So Fenris quoted the qun and you assume he speaks the whole language why?
I can recite a german song but don't fluently speak the langauge.
A second or third generation tal vashoth or whatever might not know anything of it.
If the qun faith had been around a thousand years he might be so far from it he acts and speaks like where ever he is now.

Unless I'm mistaken, Fenris demonstrates that he actually speaks Qunlat, rather than just reciting rote phrases from the Qun.

I only saw him recite the qun to the arishok...

I don't recall exactly.  But I can say that if it it's true that he was strictly reciting the Qun, I do recall that Fenris demonstrated considerable knowledge of the Qun religion, which indicates that he doesn't merely have portions of their doctrine memorized by rote, and from there it's hardly unreasonable to guess that he knows the language to some degree. at the very least.

Modifié par Silfren, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:27 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

[Battlebloodmage]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

[Rebel Wolf]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

Reason I mentioned it is that in awakening, you could only get an english accent even if your warden was Orlesion.
I would like something different,if he was raised in Orlias I hope he sounds like Riordian.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:43 .

[Afro_Explosion]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

When did they say he was raised out side the qun I've only heard about them being tal-vashoth?

[aTrueFool]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Reason I mentioned it is that in awakening, you could only get an english accent even if your warden was Orlesion.
I would like something different,if he was raised in Orlias I hope he sounds like Riordian.

I thought PC wasn't voiced Awakening. How would you know what accent they had?

[Rebel Wolf]

aTrueFool wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Reason I mentioned it is that in awakening, you could only get an english accent even if your warden was Orlesion.
I would like something different,if he was raised in Orlias I hope he sounds like Riordian.

I thought PC wasn't voiced Awakening. How would you know what accent they had?

Sigh,if you still have awakening go create an Orlesian.
I don't know if you are trolling or what.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 02:32 .

[aTrueFool]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

aTrueFool wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Reason I mentioned it is that in awakening, you could only get an english accent even if your warden was Orlesion.
I would like something different,if he was raised in Orlias I hope he sounds like Riordian.

I thought PC wasn't voiced Awakening. How would you know what accent they had?

Sigh,if you still have awakening go create an Orlesion.
I don't know if you are trolling or what.

I had forgotten about character barks. I've never played as the Orlesian Warden.

[Rebel Wolf]

Wtf is a character bark?

[Battlebloodmage]

mx_keep13 wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

When did they say he was raised out side the qun I've only heard about them being tal-vashoth?

According to David Gaider, Tal-Vashoth doesn't want to be called Qunari, and you play as a Qunari in this game. If our Qunari is a Tal-Vashoth then he wouldn't want to be called Qunari. I have never heard of them being called Tal-Vashoth before. Do you have a quote?

Here's a quote from David Gaider for my reference:

"They call them Qunari. Everyone calls them Qunari. They call the Tal-Vashoth Qunari (which annoys Tal-Vashoth, but they wouldn't expect any more from foreigners than Sten does).

If they encounter an elf who's part of the Qun, first they'd call them an "elf". Maybe they'd say "elven follower of the Qun" if they knew that. If they heard them call themselves "Qunari" they'd wrinkle their noses in confusion, and maybe amend that to "elven Qunari".

It is not that difficult to wrap your head around, surely. Either way, these are all in-game terms. As I said, if you wish to use "kossith" out of game, that's fine-- but it is an out-of-game term only. It is not proper usage."

[Thomas Andresen]

I'm starting to think this person is deliberately obtuse. I mean, how dense can someone be?

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

And that would be bad, why?

Silfren wrote...

Thomas Andresen wrote...

To add to your argument, there are more than plenty examples of names having an origin in a certain language, and means something in that language, and is used by people who have barely heard of the language.

Just because a player wants to name their Qunari character something because of what the word means, it doesn't have to mean that the character will know the meaning of it.

Pretty much.  My first name is French in origin, but there's no French ancestry in my background to be had.  We're all a bunch of Irish-descent folks with the odd indigenous bit of American blood thrown in.  I dunno why my parents didn't choose to name me something more Irish-y.

My own name has it's origin in a language I had never even heard about, the Armaic word Ta'oma', which translates into "twin." Of course, it's considered "biblical" in this part of the world, even though it's far older. But neither historical fact even crossed the minds of my parents when they named me.

[Rebel Wolf]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

When did they say he was raised out side the qun I've only heard about them being tal-vashoth?

According to David Gaider, Tal-Vashoth doesn't want to be called Qunari, and you play as a Qunari in this game. If our Qunari is a Tal-Vashoth then he wouldn't want to be called Qunari. I have never heard of them being called Tal-Vashoth before. Do you have a quote?

Here's a quote from David Gaider for my reference:

"They call them Qunari. Everyone calls them Qunari. They call the Tal-Vashoth Qunari (which annoys Tal-Vashoth, but they wouldn't expect any more from foreigners than Sten does).

If they encounter an elf who's part of the Qun, first they'd call them an "elf". Maybe they'd say "elven follower of the Qun" if they knew that. If they heard them call themselves "Qunari" they'd wrinkle their noses in confusion, and maybe amend that to "elven Qunari".

It is not that difficult to wrap your head around, surely. Either way, these are all in-game terms. As I said, if you wish to use "kossith" out of game, that's fine-- but it is an out-of-game term only. It is not proper usage."

The problem is if I say qunari mage I will get people saying "our character was born outside the qun."
If we say Tal Vashoth someone will say "Weren't they born outside the qun?'
So in trying to be precise and easily understood there needs to be a term that isn't either.
And this is off topic anyway.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 04:19 .

[Battlebloodmage]

I have never had people said that to me before, at least not on here. If you notice, you are the only one who use the word Kossith, and many people here try to correct you on that. There seem to be a general understanding on the correct usage of the word already on BSN. I'm pretty as you have already noticed through your other thread and this thread that people would correct you less if you use the term Qunari. Whether you use it or it is up to you.

[Rebel Wolf]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I have never had people said that to me before, at least not on here. If you notice, you are the only one who use the word Kossith, and many people here try to correct you on that. There seem to be a general understanding on the correct usage of the word already on BSN. I'm pretty as you have already noticed through your other thread and this thread that people would correct you less if you use the term Qunari. Whether you use it or it is up to you.

ROTFL,priceless.
If it's up to me why are you eguing about it?
I'm not even close to the only one that uses Kossith.
Since arguing and "correcting" me is off topic spam,It's kind of your issue.
And I have been "corrected" by the other side ofthe argument when people post "I thought they were born outside the qun,OMGERD why are you calling them qunari?
Seriously,why even post about this?

[Battlebloodmage]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I have never had people said that to me before, at least not on here. If you notice, you are the only one who use the word Kossith, and many people here try to correct you on that. There seem to be a general understanding on the correct usage of the word already on BSN. I'm pretty as you have already noticed through your other thread and this thread that people would correct you less if you use the term Qunari. Whether you use it or it is up to you.

ROTFL,priceless.
If it's up to me why are you eguing about it?
I'm not even close to the only one that uses Kossith.
Since arguing and "correcting" me is off topic spam,It's kind of your issue.
And I have been "corrected" by the other side ofthe argument when people post "I thought they were born outside the qun,OMGERD why are you calling them qunari?
Seriously,why even post about this?

If you noticing, the post that you quoted earlier wasn't responding to you. I was only responding because you were responding to me. Don't act like a victim when you instigate the conversation with other people. I don't get why you are so argumentative with everyone on here. I don't know if you are trolling or not at this point.

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:10 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Because you and they are posting off topic spam,and starting arguments.

[Battlebloodmage]

Who was arguing? It was a clarify statement toward the other guy. It wasn't even an argument as it would require more than one clarifying post. There wasn't any attack, insult, or calling out people the way you are doing to other posters in this thread. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:18 .

[Rebel Wolf]

I haven't insulted anyone actually,and yeah I am going to call someone out for posting off topic crap to troll.