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[aTrueFool]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Wtf is a character bark?

The short things that they say when you select the character, give them an order or get a critical hit. When you make the warden in the creator and the warden says "Greetings." That's a bark.

[Battlebloodmage]

Ok, reread your post, calling people spammer, sarcastic posts also count as instigating, thirdly, if you're gonna call people troll for talking about the Qunari identity, then you would be a troll yourself since you're responsible for half the conversation about it. It seems like you are arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:27 .

[Iron Fist]

The Inquisitor can be a human, elf, dwarf, or Qunari. Not a kossith. There are no kossith, except in whatever scholarly texts mention them. There are Qunari.

Qunlat is most likely their native language, regardless of whether or not they follow the Qun, unless they heavily associated with other races (in trade, for instance).

Modifié par MevenSelas, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:31 .

[Rebel Wolf]

You are trolling.you had no reason [nor did they] to post about it.
You aren't talking about the creatures identity just endlessly bickering on what to call them.
We were already told we could call them whatever we wanted.
And if we just call them qunari we get you mean qun qunari or non qun qunari?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:35 .

[Battlebloodmage]

Who am I bickering with? You? Another poster? I made exactly 2 posts regarding the naming. One toward you since you concern people may correct you which I said would cause less confusion if you use Qunari which has nothing to do with correcting you. Another post is toward another poster in regard to the identify of the Qunari Inquisitor not being Tal-Vashoth in which you come in and troll for some reason. Next time, don't come to any conversation that doesn't concern you. Yes, you can call them anything they want. Do you expect Bioware to burst into your door and arrest you for using the word or something? Chill, dude.

[Rebel Wolf]

I started this topic,I didn't just "come in."
I didn't troll you did.
This topic wasn't about the naming.

[Battlebloodmage]

And you responsible for half of it. it's obviously instigating the way you keep mentioning Kossith, and I have never once correcting you. Show me where I did that. I only suggested that you use Qunari because you concern about people correcting you which has nothing to do with me correcting you. You are the one who troll your own thread by keep responding to every post about the Kossith. It's very evident in the fact that YOU try to bring it up once again with asking me how to separate Qun Qunari and Non-Qun Qunari. Someone who wants people to stop talking about it wouldn't bring it up constantly or arguing with people about it. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:48 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Wow,nice bully tactics.
Like I explained already the reason was to so people could tell the qunari in the qun from one that were born outside it,as they didn't supply a name for that.
I have no idea why that upsets you or your cronies but I won't be bullied into using a term that isn't really accurate.

[sandalisthemaker]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

And btw if they wanted to name the race "qunari" they shouldn't have made Sten say they weren't.
Qunari are of the qun.

Also Cassandra and Tallis.

[Battlebloodmage]

Do you plan to put your entire house in my mouth and live there, too, since your foot is already there? I have never ONCE tried to force you to use Qunari, find a post where I force you to use the word, don't put words in my mouth, it's annoying. YOU respond to ME on a separate conversation that has nothing to do with you. I don't care about you, I don't care what you use. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 25 décembre 2013 - 05:58 .

[werewoof]

this is turning into another dang ol kossith vs qunari thread can we put it out of its misery

[Rebel Wolf]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

And btw if they wanted to name the race "qunari" they shouldn't have made Sten say they weren't.
Qunari are of the qun.

Also Cassandra and Tallis.

Exactly my point.

[Iron Fist]

By virtue of the Inquisitor being Qunari (as opposed to the incorrect "kossith"), his or her name can be in Qunlat.

That's why we can give them Qunlat names.

[Rebel Wolf]

Rotfl,wow..
Being a qunari outside the qun,[wow that sounds insane]
He has no reason to know of qunlat as his ancestors could have left a thousand years ago.
Why do you keep pushing it when staff said it was ok to use the term?

[Iron Fist]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Rotfl,wow..
Being a qunari outside the qun,[wow that sounds insane]
He has no reason to know of qunlat as his ancestors could have left a thousand years ago.
Why do you keep pushing it when staff said it was ok to use the term?

Yeah, you can use whatever term you like. But the game recognizes them as Qunari.

And your OP asks why we are using Qunlat to name our Qunari Inquisitors.

Since the Inquisitor can be Qunari, Qunlat is most likely amongst his or her spoken languages.

Thus, we can give them Qunlat names.

This should be an easy concept to grasp.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 25 décembre 2013 - 06:11 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Nah,I don't give in to bullying.
As soon as they come up with a term that specifically means a qunari born outside the qun I will use that.
See that is the confusion your character can be qunari but he was never of the qun.
So why in the world why he speak qunlat?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 25 décembre 2013 - 06:13 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

MevenSelas wrote...

The writers have now decided to name the race "Qunari." Deal with it.

Outsiders always called the race that.

It is both a race and a religion, and a person can be a member of either group with or without being a member of both.  Is that confusing?  Yes.  But it's also something that occurs in the real world, so it shouldn't be so hard for people to wrap their heads around.

[Rebel Wolf]

Is it because conversations in the game contradict it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

There's no reason for us to believe that a Qunari Inquisitor can speak Qunlat. There's also no reason for us to believe that a Qunari Inquisitor can't speak Qunlat.

Why anyone would hold either of those positions is a mystery to me.

[Spectre slayer]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I think it would be interesting to see a Qunari who is bilingual, in that sense.

I don't foresee, however, a Qunari inquisitor using Qunlat with everyone.

Pretty sure there wouldn't be much different in a Qunari inquisitor and other inquisitor in term of dialogue. It would be too much hassle to write dialogue for every race. I'm sure they will use mostly regular English but may use Qunlat in certain situations.

They managed diffrences in origins.
On,no! What if they give the Kossith Inqusitor an english accent?

Who knows? We don't the origin of our inquisitor or whether they'd elaborate on it. Since the Qunari inquisitor was raised outside the Qun. It wouldn't be strange for him/her to have an English accent or even a French accent. I don't see it as a big issue.

When did they say he was raised out side the qun I've only heard about them being tal-vashoth?

According to David Gaider, Tal-Vashoth doesn't want to be called Qunari, and you play as a Qunari in this game. If our Qunari is a Tal-Vashoth then he wouldn't want to be called Qunari. I have never heard of them being called Tal-Vashoth before. Do you have a quote?

Here's a quote from David Gaider for my reference:

"They call them Qunari. Everyone calls them Qunari. They call the Tal-Vashoth Qunari (which annoys Tal-Vashoth, but they wouldn't expect any more from foreigners than Sten does).

If they encounter an elf who's part of the Qun, first they'd call them an "elf". Maybe they'd say "elven follower of the Qun" if they knew that. If they heard them call themselves "Qunari" they'd wrinkle their noses in confusion, and maybe amend that to "elven Qunari".

It is not that difficult to wrap your head around, surely. Either way, these are all in-game terms. As I said, if you wish to use "kossith" out of game, that's fine-- but it is an out-of-game term only. It is not proper usage."

The problem is if I say qunari mage I will get people saying "our character was born outside the qun."
If we say Tal Vashoth someone will say "Weren't they born outside the qun?'
So in trying to be precise and easily understood there needs to be a term that isn't either.
And this is off topic anyway.

Didn't I already explain this awhile ago, a Qunari born outside of the Qun will refer to themselves as Qunari due to it being the accepted term by everyone in Theadas and their lack of knowledge of the Qun and terms.


A Vashoth or Tal'Vashoth isn't someone who was born outside the Qun they are the ones who abandon or break the Qun, while the former is non violent the latter is violent which makes them Tal'Vashoth.


This isn't really that complicated the racial identifier used is Qunari, if our inquisitor is born outside the Qun than they are just Qunari, if they break or abandoned the Qun they are Tal'Vashoth.

Wow,nice bully tactics.Like I explained already the reason was to so people could tell the qunari in the qun from one that were born outside it,as they didn't supply a name for that.I have no idea why that upsets you or your cronies but I won't be bullied into using a term that isn't really accurate.

Qunari is the accurate term. The writers who created the bloody race and religion have said as much.

This is pretty much it, the devs have stated there's no distinction between race and religion and aren't keep on the idea of making one, there's no known or modern term for the race itself nor will there be one unless they change their minds which I seriously doubt.

 
I’m well aware this is basically about some fans yearning for a proper, single-word label so they can argue about it online and write about it in fanfiction. Yet I’ve told you what words you can use— the ones we would use in-game and in-world— and still there are “but what if—?!” exclamations, as if coming up with enough convoluted reasoning will make the issue seem really complex and untenable.You don’t need a single word for the biological race. If you think you do, because you need a term for the big horned people who aren’t part of the Qun (and Tal’Vashoth just doesn’t cut it for you), then use “qunari” and add a ****ing adjective — assuming you’re not a scientist trying to classify their species, that should be something available to you.Or use “kossith” incorrectly. I’m simply saying what we will use in Dragon Age and assuming that the in-game terminology is something people would like to know. If you don’t care about that and feel you need something additional, then by all means do so. My only issue with it has ever been when some fans school other fans on the “proper” term (and, yes, this does happen) or when fans casually use the word as if that should be meaningful to most— and then blame the lore when it causes confusion.

 http://dgaider.tumbl...s-where-it-gets
Qunari refers to anyone who joins to the Qun but the other races have terms like Kabethari or Viddathari but they are still only Qunari.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 25 décembre 2013 - 06:22 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Yes,But as I have stated I'm using another term and it was already said that was ok.
So spamming about it won't change that.

[Fredward]

The qunari inquisitor is Tal-vasoth, to be such you have to have been a member of the Qun at some time. Now while I don't think it's a requirement to speak Qunlat if you follow the Qun considering the fact the Qunquisitor is also kossith it would imply that s/he grew up in some place they would likely be exposed to the language.