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Why did Saren/Sovereign need the Conduit at all?


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The master plan, the way they decided to get the Reapers back, just required Saren to walk into the Council Chambers, activate the hidden Master Control Console and open the relay. Meanwhile, Sovereign and the Geth fleet attack the Citadel as a massive distraction. This is what happens at the end of the game. If Shepard hadn't made it through the Conduit in time, Saren would have activated the relay, the Reapers would have returned.

So why did he chase all over the galaxy for clues to it's location? He attacked Eden Prime to access the vision in the beacon, he bartered with the Thorian to help him understand it, etc etc. Why didn't he just go to the Council Chamber from the start? Why bother attacking Eden Prime at all? Presumably he used a file or intel from Sovereign to access the Master Control Console, Vigil certainly didn't give it to him. Basically, why did the entire game actually happen? The Conduit wasn't the key to bringing the Reapers back, the Conduit was a back door to the Presidium, which prior to being revealed as rogue, he didn't need a back door to get to.

Why didn't Sovereign just skip the whole thing and attack, with Saren in position to open the relay manually?

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The information or what have you that he needed to turn off the interuption the the Keepers was on Ilos. It had something to do with the Conduit itself. Just going to the Citadel would have solved nothing if he didn't know how to overide what they did to the Keepers.

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I wondered about that myself, actually.



My only guess is that Sovereign was still unsure why the Citadel was not responding to his remote control, and needed to find out why first in order to prevent it in the future.



Also, remember that Saren was still idealistic at the beginning about "proving worth" to the Reapers, and likely was not amenable to opening the Relay flat out before he had proven his worth. In fact, Saren may not have been informed yet of the Citadel's true purpose, and had he been blindsided with it that early would have turned on Sovereign.



Lastly, the Reapers, or at least Sovereign, would appear to be hindered by their culture, namely one of Complete Confidence in their Intellect and Superiority, and Complete Patience. Sovereign's long-view of slowly turning Saren while finding out how the Protheans defied them seems to fit in with the Reaper mindset.

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JasonPogo wrote...

The information or what have you that he needed to turn off the interuption the the Keepers was on Ilos. It had something to do with the Conduit itself. Just going to the Citadel would have solved nothing if he didn't know how to overide what they did to the Keepers.

"Turn off the interruption the the Keepers"? He wasn't fixing the Keepers, he was manually opening the Citadel mass relay. Heck, he shot the nearest Keeper on his way. Sure, the Reapers would probably want to know how to fix the Keepers, but that's not what Saren was trying to do. That, presumably, could wait until all the sentient species were dead and they were preparing to leave for another 50,000 years. Why would Saren try and fix a race of beings who's sole purpose used to be to push a button on command, when he could push it himself probably 10 times quicker?

Feranel wrote...

I wondered about that myself, actually.

My only guess is that Sovereign was still unsure why the Citadel was not responding to his remote control, and needed to find out why first in order to prevent it in the future.

Yeah but again, surely that could wait until after the Reaper invasion had happened. Solving that mystery seems like an added complication. And considering what was at stake, I'd imagine he/she/it'd want that plan to be as foolproof as possible.

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Also, remember that Saren was still idealistic at the beginning about "proving worth" to the Reapers, and likely was not amenable to opening the Relay flat out before he had proven his worth. In fact, Saren may not have been informed yet of the Citadel's true purpose, and had he been blindsided with it that early would have turned on Sovereign.

Lastly, the Reapers, or at least Sovereign, would appear to be hindered by their culture, namely one of Complete Confidence in their Intellect and Superiority, and Complete Patience. Sovereign's long-view of slowly turning Saren while finding out how the Protheans defied them seems to fit in with the Reaper mindset.

Good points. But, while he may not have been informed of the Citadel's true purpose, he did know he was helping to bring back the Reapers. He said as much to Benezia, right after Eden Prime. As for a Reaper's superior intellect, you'd think that'd help him to formulate a better plan.

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Another note about the master plan:



Vigil referenced the "sleeper agents" and "thralls" of the Reapers, indicating that they had already been in place before the opening of the Citadel Relay. It may be Reaper S.O.P. to have an entire army in place before opening the Relay. This would explain both Saren and Benezia building armies of Krogan and Rachni, respectively, to be born into indoctrination as troops for the Reapers.



Once the plots had been found out and quashed, rushing to the Citadel to open the Relay may have simply been a last resort, called on because all operating procedures had been thrown out the window.

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Feranel wrote...

Another note about the master plan:

Vigil referenced the "sleeper agents" and "thralls" of the Reapers, indicating that they had already been in place before the opening of the Citadel Relay. It may be Reaper S.O.P. to have an entire army in place before opening the Relay. This would explain both Saren and Benezia building armies of Krogan and Rachni, respectively, to be born into indoctrination as troops for the Reapers.

Once the plots had been found out and quashed, rushing to the Citadel to open the Relay may have simply been a last resort, called on because all operating procedures had been thrown out the window.

Possibly. I don't know if it makes it poor planning or irony that if they'd just done that in the first place (rushed to the Citadel to open the relay) they would have succeeded. Shepard is the only reason Saren was stopped, after all. Although I'm not sure about the idea of there being sleeper agents in place prior to the relay opening. I know Vigil said they made sleepers out of refugees, survivors of Reaper attacks, but I never got the impression they made them prior to the invasion too.

Although you're right, that does perfectly explain the armies he was trying to create.

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Stoko981 wrote...

Possibly. I don't know if it makes it poor planning or irony that if they'd just done that in the first place (rushed to the Citadel to open the relay) they would have succeeded. Shepard is the only reason Saren was stopped, after all. Although I'm not sure about the idea of there being sleeper agents in place prior to the relay opening. I know Vigil said they made sleepers out of refugees, survivors of Reaper attacks, but I never got the impression they made them prior to the invasion too.

Although you're right, that does perfectly explain the armies he was trying to create.


I could be just shooting in the dark here, but if I had to guess, Reaper S.O.P. may be something like this:

1. Wake Up.
2. Make Contact with Citadel.
3. Learn about Galactic Races via the Citadel.
4. Amass Army and Sleeper Agents.
5. Strategically place said Agents and Army.
6. Open the Relay.
7. ?????
8. Profit.

Keep in mind this is speculation from alot of things, one of which is the statement that sleeping Reapers are vulnerable, I'd imagine that the ones jumping through the Relay may be hindered by a lack of good intelligence on their targets, and possibly still "booting up" from hibernation and the jump, as there is no indication that Sovereign is able to have any contact with the Reaper fleet whatsoever, only that he is able to open the relay and jump them in.

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After listen to VI in Ilos I got the impression that the reason why Saren and Sovereign did not open the relay to begin with. was that Sovereign was not indestructible and feared the galaxy amassing their armies against him. So by going on this quest where are trying to find out Saren's intentions, Sovereign is keeping everyone else in the dark about what is going to happen because they are to focus on what we are doing and Saren. Remember we don't find out Sovereign is a Reeper until we go to Faros and even the counsel is more concerned about species 37. To me it shows Sovereign was using Saren as a tool, and to keep us distracted to notice the little clues as to what is going on.

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I think it went all down to the Question: Why didn't the citadel respond? Sov had to figure that out, before he could take action against it. But when Saren got the beacon to find out, what the protheans did, he was discovered and another organic got the info on his hands. Saren set out to find the conduit, wich he understood to be the key to the citadel problem and was followed by Shepard, who crossed all of his plans, even following him to ilos.



I do not think, Sov was aware of the Conduit being the backdoor to the Citadel before Saren was able to decipher the prothean vision. But when he was, the council allready knew of his plans and shepard was right behind them, so the Conduit came in handy to distract the council and shepard from the original goal, wich was, indeed, attacking the citadel.

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Feranel wrote...



1. Wake Up.
2. Make Contact with Citadel.
3. Learn about Galactic Races via the Citadel.
4. Amass Army and Sleeper Agents.
5. Strategically place said Agents and Army.
6. Open the Relay.
7. ?????
8. Profit.


well where do the underpants come in to play...they seem like a crucial step

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I don't think he really needed it. Sovereign didn't know what the Conduit was so that is why he wanted to find it, to ensure that it couldn't somehow undo his plan at the last minute. When he discovered that the Conduit ws a back door he improvised.

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While there are continuity issues, I think the purpose of the conduit (or the reason Saren needed it) was that the Protheans had changed the codes to control the citadel. While the conduit was, in effect, a back-door mass relay, it also contained the data saren needed to allow Sovereign to take control of the citadel.

Eden Prime happened because, while sovereign figured out they'd changed it and sent out a code, he couldn't use it (non-organic). Timeline concerns point to Sov only finding this out right before the events of ME.


Actually, on a side note, IF saren did know the codes to take control of the citadel before he found the conduit (I don't think it's ever specified), there is another reason for the conduit: How are you going to sneak a geth assault squad/battalion past c-sec? Had Saren simply went up to the controls and started messing with them, he would have been killed. Perhaps he didn't even know the extent of what the protheans had done to the citadel, so his visit to Illos was most likely to tie up loose ends and sneak into the heart of the citadel with anywhere between 10 and 200 geth. I could never figure out if all the damage to the citadel was due to the space assault by the geth fleet or a ground assault by the forces Saren brought over from Illos.

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Yeah I have wondered, judging by the devestation caused by their attack at the end, why Sov didn't just lead an all out invasion on the citadel. They certainly didn't need a backdoor judging by that evidence. However as mentioned there are definitely some things that could explain the need to find Ilos and such.

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From my understanding, Sovereign has to be near the citadel control tower in order to reprogram the citadel to open up the mass relay to dark space. Sovereign cant just attack the citadel though because the citadel would just close the arms and Sovereign would be trapped outside with a fleet large enough to kill him.



Saren cant just use his spectre status to walk into the council chamber either because even if he is super human that would still be enough guards or even other spectres on the citadel to stop him to open up the citadel arms. He needed the geth's help in order to overcome the troops in the citadel itself.



Thus, the conduit. Saren takes a force of geth though to the citadel and opens up the arms of the citadel for Sovereign and it flies in and takes control of the citadel opens up the dark space mass relay and the reapers come through.





My personal continuity issue was with Normandy returning to assist the alliance fleet. The Conduit is a direct link from Ilos to the Citadel while using the Mu Relay actually required a number of other relay jumps inorder to get back to the citadel.

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IceSavage wrote...

My personal continuity issue was with Normandy returning to assist the alliance fleet. The Conduit is a direct link from Ilos to the Citadel while using the Mu Relay actually required a number of other relay jumps inorder to get back to the citadel.


Explained away by the fact that Joker probably jumped from the mu relay back to whichever system the 5th fleet was in sometime between dropping Shepard off on Illos and right after Shepard used the conduit. Although I do understand what you're getting at....it all hinges on how fast a mass relay jump is; if we're going off of how fast it took to jump to Illos, it takes anywhere between 15 minutes to 1 hour to jump a somewhat long distance. If we base it off of how long it takes joker to jump the 5th fleet from where they were stationed to the citadel, it takes a matter of seconds.

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From what I understood of the game's story, when the Protheans devised their plan to corrupt the Citadel's programming, the Conduit was a critical component of their plan. It was never explained what exactly they did, but perhaps they re-wired the Citadel so that the main relay (the one leading to dark space) linked instead to the Conduit. (set MainRelay = 'Conduit'?) To further make it even harder to fix the relay, the Conduit only works in one direction, so as long as the Conduit was inactive, the main relay was rendered completely inoperational.



To reactivate the main relay and link it back to the relay in dark space, Sovereign and Saren first needed to find the Conduit (hence his hunting across the galaxy for the Beacons and the Cipher), reactivate it, and then re-program the Citadel so it once more linked to the dark space relay. This would explain why Saren needed to find out where the Conduit (and hence Ilos) was, reactivate it, and then have Sovereign and his Geth navies ready and in place when the Conduit became active.



In addition to trying to prove the worth of organic races to Sovereign, Saren may have breeding the armies of Rachni and Krogan as a 'backup plan' in case things went wrong, using them and the Geth in the event they needed to launch a frontal assault on the Citadel and capture it outright before they opened the Conduit.

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Zaxares wrote...

From what I understood of the game's story, when the Protheans devised their plan to corrupt the Citadel's programming, the Conduit was a critical component of their plan. It was never explained what exactly they did, but perhaps they re-wired the Citadel so that the main relay (the one leading to dark space) linked instead to the Conduit. (set MainRelay = 'Conduit'?) To further make it even harder to fix the relay, the Conduit only works in one direction, so as long as the Conduit was inactive, the main relay was rendered completely inoperational.

To reactivate the main relay and link it back to the relay in dark space, Sovereign and Saren first needed to find the Conduit (hence his hunting across the galaxy for the Beacons and the Cipher), reactivate it, and then re-program the Citadel so it once more linked to the dark space relay. This would explain why Saren needed to find out where the Conduit (and hence Ilos) was, reactivate it, and then have Sovereign and his Geth navies ready and in place when the Conduit became active.

In addition to trying to prove the worth of organic races to Sovereign, Saren may have breeding the armies of Rachni and Krogan as a 'backup plan' in case things went wrong, using them and the Geth in the event they needed to launch a frontal assault on the Citadel and capture it outright before they opened the Conduit.


Well, the conduit is a one way mass relay from the one on Illos to the "mass relay monument"...the mass relay monument is not the mass relay to dark space...the entire citadel is a mass relay hub (of course, it was never used in Mass Effect). The monument was on the citadel before the reaper invasion, but no one knew what it was for; most likely, the reapers assumed it was just a monument (however, wouldn't it be feasable that if Kaidan can feel the residual energy from the monument that the reapers could sense it?). The reason the conduit was one way is that when it was used by the prothean researchers after the reaper invasions, it was still in its prototype phase, so they only had it programmed to take them from Illos to the citadel without having figured out the necessary science to make the reverse trip.

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IceSavage wrote...

From my understanding, Sovereign has to be near the citadel control tower in order to reprogram the citadel to open up the mass relay to dark space. Sovereign cant just attack the citadel though because the citadel would just close the arms and Sovereign would be trapped outside with a fleet large enough to kill him.

Saren cant just use his spectre status to walk into the council chamber either because even if he is super human that would still be enough guards or even other spectres on the citadel to stop him to open up the citadel arms. He needed the geth's help in order to overcome the troops in the citadel itself.

Thus, the conduit. Saren takes a force of geth though to the citadel and opens up the arms of the citadel for Sovereign and it flies in and takes control of the citadel opens up the dark space mass relay and the reapers come through.


I think he hit it on the head. There would have been no way to get Saren aboard the Citadel from Sovereign, and he couldn't get a force capable of overwhelming C-Sec and the other defenders onto the Citadel via any means other than the Conduit, which would put him right at the base of the tower.

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PaladinXR wrote...

Well, the conduit is a one way mass relay from the one on Illos to the "mass relay monument"...the mass relay monument is not the mass relay to dark space...the entire citadel is a mass relay hub (of course, it was never used in Mass Effect). The monument was on the citadel before the reaper invasion, but no one knew what it was for; most likely, the reapers assumed it was just a monument (however, wouldn't it be feasable that if Kaidan can feel the residual energy from the monument that the reapers could sense it?). The reason the conduit was one way is that when it was used by the prothean researchers after the reaper invasions, it was still in its prototype phase, so they only had it programmed to take them from Illos to the citadel without having figured out the necessary science to make the reverse trip.


Ah, good point. I'd forgotten about that little monument which served as the end point for the Conduit. It does seem odd that the Reapers never noticed it though. Another plot hole for us to try and explain away. Posted Image

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RyuKazuha wrote...

I think it went all down to the Question: Why didn't the citadel respond? Sov had to figure that out, before he could take action against it. But when Saren got the beacon to find out, what the protheans did, he was discovered and another organic got the info on his hands. Saren set out to find the conduit, wich he understood to be the key to the citadel problem and was followed by Shepard, who crossed all of his plans, even following him to ilos.

I do not think, Sov was aware of the Conduit being the backdoor to the Citadel before Saren was able to decipher the prothean vision. But when he was, the council allready knew of his plans and shepard was right behind them, so the Conduit came in handy to distract the council and shepard from the original goal, wich was, indeed, attacking the citadel.


This. If you look at it from Sovereign's point of view the sequence of events was something like:
He decided it was time to purge the Relay Network, hit the 'go button' and nothing happened.
He can't know at this point if the fault is something the current crop of races did, or some legacy of the Protheans, so he goes to ground and starts building up an intelligence network to find out.
He probably discovers the current races are ignorant of the real situation and concentrates on the Protheans. The only remaining Prothean data structures that might have the info he needs are the beacons, but he has a problem because they will only interface wih an organic mind.
He recruites Saren who finds some damaged beacon and from it learns of the existence of the Conduit but little else since he doesn't have the Cipher yet.
Eden Prime.

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HotshotMAR wrote...

IceSavage wrote...

From my understanding, Sovereign has to be near the citadel control tower in order to reprogram the citadel to open up the mass relay to dark space. Sovereign cant just attack the citadel though because the citadel would just close the arms and Sovereign would be trapped outside with a fleet large enough to kill him.

Saren cant just use his spectre status to walk into the council chamber either because even if he is super human that would still be enough guards or even other spectres on the citadel to stop him to open up the citadel arms. He needed the geth's help in order to overcome the troops in the citadel itself.

Thus, the conduit. Saren takes a force of geth though to the citadel and opens up the arms of the citadel for Sovereign and it flies in and takes control of the citadel opens up the dark space mass relay and the reapers come through.


I think he hit it on the head. There would have been no way to get Saren aboard the Citadel from Sovereign, and he couldn't get a force capable of overwhelming C-Sec and the other defenders onto the Citadel via any means other than the Conduit, which would put him right at the base of the tower.

They could have docked a ship at the Citadel broadcasting spoofed IFF signals. On that ship could be as many Geth as they could fit - which is a lot, considering they can flatpack themselves into crates. This army of Geth could descend into C-Sec (blow the lift and drop down the shaft for example), completely overwhelming the security forces down there. Time this action (storming C-Sec) to occur just as or just after Sovereign and the Geth fleet arrive in the system.

With C-Sec secured and the rest of the station in panic, Saren and his Geth would only need to get from one end of the Presidium to the other, and then he'd be in the exact same location the Conduit would have dropped him out of. Except without the diversion to the Pangea Expanse.

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This. If you look at it from Sovereign's point of view the sequence of events was something like:
He decided it was time to purge the Relay Network, hit the 'go button' and nothing happened.
He can't know at this point if the fault is something the current crop of races did, or some legacy of the Protheans, so he goes to ground and starts building up an intelligence network to find out.
He probably discovers the current races are ignorant of the real situation and concentrates on the Protheans. The only remaining Prothean data structures that might have the info he needs are the beacons, but he has a problem because they will only interface wih an organic mind.
He recruites Saren who finds some damaged beacon and from it learns of the existence of the Conduit but little else since he doesn't have the Cipher yet.
Eden Prime.

Except the vision didn't mention the Conduit. Shepard saw the same visions as Saren, but only learned of the Conduit through Tali's audio recording of Saren talking about it. Even the full, final, finished vision only warns against the Reapers and points towards Ilos. Liara makes the leap that the Conduit is on Ilos because Saren is looking for the Conduit and believes the visions will lead him to it. At least, that's how I always interpreted the scene.

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Stoko981 wrote...

HotshotMAR wrote...

IceSavage wrote...

From my understanding, Sovereign has to be near the citadel control tower in order to reprogram the citadel to open up the mass relay to dark space. Sovereign cant just attack the citadel though because the citadel would just close the arms and Sovereign would be trapped outside with a fleet large enough to kill him.

Saren cant just use his spectre status to walk into the council chamber either because even if he is super human that would still be enough guards or even other spectres on the citadel to stop him to open up the citadel arms. He needed the geth's help in order to overcome the troops in the citadel itself.

Thus, the conduit. Saren takes a force of geth though to the citadel and opens up the arms of the citadel for Sovereign and it flies in and takes control of the citadel opens up the dark space mass relay and the reapers come through.


I think he hit it on the head. There would have been no way to get Saren aboard the Citadel from Sovereign, and he couldn't get a force capable of overwhelming C-Sec and the other defenders onto the Citadel via any means other than the Conduit, which would put him right at the base of the tower.

They could have docked a ship at the Citadel broadcasting spoofed IFF signals. On that ship could be as many Geth as they could fit - which is a lot, considering they can flatpack themselves into crates. This army of Geth could descend into C-Sec (blow the lift and drop down the shaft for example), completely overwhelming the security forces down there. Time this action (storming C-Sec) to occur just as or just after Sovereign and the Geth fleet arrive in the system.

With C-Sec secured and the rest of the station in panic, Saren and his Geth would only need to get from one end of the Presidium to the other, and then he'd be in the exact same location the Conduit would have dropped him out of. Except without the diversion to the Pangea Expanse.


C-Sec is stated to employ over 200.000 Individuals. I doubt you could just take it out by deploying them from a ships cargohold, since the dock would've simply been sealed.

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Except the vision didn't mention the Conduit. Shepard saw the same visions as Saren, but only learned of the Conduit through Tali's audio recording of Saren talking about it. Even the full, final, finished vision only warns against the Reapers and points towards Ilos. Liara makes the leap that the Conduit is on Ilos because Saren is looking for the Conduit and believes the visions will lead him to it. At least, that's how I always interpreted the scene.


Well we never do get a word for word run down on what was in the vision, but Vigil says that they sent word of the conduit out on the beacons to bring hope to any other surviving Protheans. And somebody has to mention it somewhere or nobody would have heard of it at all. The reapers didn't know about it when they packed up for darkspace or they would have destroyed the receiver.

Come to think of it, somebody musy have gotten the word Conduit out of a beacon at some point in the past or Liara couldn't have remembered the word as pertaining to the Prothean extinction somehow.

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RyuKazuha wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

They could have docked a ship at the Citadel broadcasting spoofed IFF signals. On that ship could be as many Geth as they could fit - which is a lot, considering they can flatpack themselves into crates. This army of Geth could descend into C-Sec (blow the lift and drop down the shaft for example), completely overwhelming the security forces down there. Time this action (storming C-Sec) to occur just as or just after Sovereign and the Geth fleet arrive in the system.

With C-Sec secured and the rest of the station in panic, Saren and his Geth would only need to get from one end of the Presidium to the other, and then he'd be in the exact same location the Conduit would have dropped him out of. Except without the diversion to the Pangea Expanse.


C-Sec is stated to employ over 200.000 Individuals. I doubt you could just take it out by deploying them from a ships cargohold, since the dock would've simply been sealed.

Yes, and I'm sure all 200,000 of them would be actually at C-Sec HQ, all at once. Bear in mind that we've been to C-Sec, there were what, maybe 20 or 30 people? At a push? The other 199,970 of them were presumably off in other places, I mean, the Citadel is a little on the large side.

And how exactly would they seal the dock? If they believed the ship was a friendly, if Saren exited it with his face obscured so as not to be identified by any potential security cameras. Some crazy future alien version of C4 to blow apart the lift, and down they go. Heck, Saren could even ride his crazy forcefield covered hover sled down.

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Stoko981 wrote...

Except the vision didn't mention the Conduit. Shepard saw the same visions as Saren, but only learned of the Conduit through Tali's audio recording of Saren talking about it. Even the full, final, finished vision only warns against the Reapers and points towards Ilos. Liara makes the leap that the Conduit is on Ilos because Saren is looking for the Conduit and believes the visions will lead him to it. At least, that's how I always interpreted the scene.


Well we never do get a word for word run down on what was in the vision, but Vigil says that they sent word of the conduit out on the beacons to bring hope to any other surviving Protheans. And somebody has to mention it somewhere or nobody would have heard of it at all. The reapers didn't know about it when they packed up for darkspace or they would have destroyed the receiver.

Come to think of it, somebody musy have gotten the word Conduit out of a beacon at some point in the past or Liara couldn't have remembered the word as pertaining to the Prothean extinction somehow.

Really? Maybe I misremembered. I thought he said they sent word of Ilos out over the beacon network, to bring hope to any other survivors. As for someone getting the word Conduit out of a beacon at some point in the past - that's one theory. It's also possible that what Liara found when she saw mention of the Conduit was something left behind by the last 12 Protheans. We don't know they died on the Citadel. They could have taken a Mass Transit ship through one of the relays surrounding the Citadel, and lived out their lives on any number of worlds.

Of course, that would still beg the question of why they didn't leave a full and detailed account, but you never know.

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He couldn't just walk in and access the controls for the Citadel. C-Sec would be all over him. He can't take them all out