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[Nightwriter]

EntropicAngel wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

That'd be cool actually.

They didn't try to avoid alien language barriers in KotoR. They should try that again.

"Not avoiding the alien language barrier" in KotOR allowed drastically decreased speech fidelity. You'd hear the same gobbeldy-****** from the fish-people three times in a conversation. I'm not sure going back there would be smart.

(or Chewbacca being ----- with every phrase--that was quite unpleasant to listen to)

In the scenario Street was responding to, only very obscure alien languages would stump your translator. This means the amount of alien dialogue you'd be hearing would be much much smaller and the potential for repeating phonemes would be drastically reduced.

Also: mucha shaka paka? mucha shaka paca?

[rekn2]

it gets lost in the melting pot.

i remember hearing about star trek and that humans, instead of me against you, turns into us against them (xenos). i follow and have witnessed this logic first hand so i agree with it

[Nightwriter]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I was reasonably satisfied with the diversity of ethnicities present. I understand they are a North American developer and not every culture or subculture can be represented convincingly or practically in the game. Of course, I also understand that I'm white and am in general not in a position to know what it feels like to be underrepresented.

I was a little stumped about how I could hear Spanish or Japanese words in the game when my translator was supposed to be turning everything into English but I try not to think too much about translators anyway. Maybe it only translates non-human languages. Of course, that wouldn't explain why all the aliens' mouths seem to be forming the English words I am hearing. You would think it would be more like watching a dubbed movie. No, no, mustn't think about it.

I wasn't aware the universe incorporated a translator. Makes sense, I suppose.

They sort of went "oh sh*t we forgot to explain why everyone speaks English" and squeezed it into BDtS as a new Codex entry.

"Human cultures remain linguistically divided. Some converse in Spanish, others in Mandarin, Arabic, Swahili, etc. Every alien race has their own equally broad panoply of languages and dialects.

Most individuals know only their mother tongue, and rely on machine translation. Modern portable computers allow anyone with a few hundred credits of equipment to enjoy seamless real-time translation of alien languages, courtesy of handheld PDAs, computers in clothing or jewelry, or sub-dermal implants. Without fast and accurate translation, galactic trade and culture would not exist.

Governments provide subsidized software, updated through the public extranet "on the fly", often as users approach spaceport customs facilities. Even the batarians, who isolated themselves from galactic society nearly two decades ago, take pains to provide up-to-date glossaries and linguistic rules, though most suspect that this is only so they can continue exporting propaganda.

It is still considered broad-minded and practical to be able to speak without machine aid. Children often take courses in alien language, and most races can speak the simplified artificial "trade tongue" with little difficulty.

Some species must rely on machine translation to interact with the rest of the galaxy. Hanar, for example, cannot reproduce the spoken language of any humanoid species, and other races cannot reproduce hanar bioluminescence without mechanical aid. Newly discovered or obscure races don't have machine translation available until the linguists have had time to study them."

^ Now I want to see people too poor to afford translators. I demand a quest that requires me to get information out of some Omegan vagrant who cannot understand a word I am saying. It would be amusing to hear him say "I don't speak your language" in perfect English.

[AlexMBrennan]

That seems rather unnecessary if it wasn't for fan dumb - you don't complain about characters in Julius Cesar speaking English (or whatever language is spoken where you go see the play).

[Swan Killer]

Han Shot First wrote...

The weird thing is why doesn't Anderson speak with a British accent, if he is from London?

The only thing I could figure is that Anderson probably sounds like this, and unable to take him seriously, Shepard downloaded an app to make him sound like Keith David.

Btw, I'm now imagining Anderson yelling at Joker, "Where the f--k are we, you mug?"

He was born in London, he never says he grew up there. 

[megamacka]

To be fair. The internet is where religions come to die. The ME series takes place in the future, religions die out. There has been over 9000 religions ( all of which were more or like the same. Compare Horus to Jesus. And all of the Christian traditions are taken from old pagan religions and traditions.. ).

I vaguely remember Ash talking about religion in ME1 tho. I am not going to get into a religious debate, but the religions that people believe in today will die out and they have already started to diminish greatly. It's just a matter of time, especially now when we've entered '' the age of technology '' for real. We are all fortunate enough to be born into countries and a time where we can find out pretty much anything and learn about the universe and how we came to be. This wasn't the case not very long ago, it has happened just recently. Then again, some people don't even bother to look. I am Atheist, but I've read the Bible and the Quran because I like to be intellectually honest. The sad truth is that most religious people haven't read their own book.
They just happened to be born into a family that believes in X.
I know that this is controversial for people living in the US where more than half of the entire population reject the theory of evolution ( Gravity is a theory too... '' It's just a theory '' isn't a valid argument ). But it makes sense that religion isn't this big thing in the future. ESPECIALLY not when you live in a galaxy filled with aliens with different cultures etc.

In terms of why everyone seems to be American etc rofl... Yeah. America is pretty much what American developers focus on it seems... Look at give away's and Betas, it's pretty much ALWAYS'' US only'' at the start.
I would have loved some different accents, but it's still a video game. It's probably hard to find good voice actors in the US that can make different accents and that are available. It was done very well in Kotor imo, the aliens sounded like aliens. Even tho it was pretty much the same sentence repeated over and over again it still sounded like a legit language.

But imo, if you're going to include religion in a future or medieval setting then I think that it's better and safer to do it the way that Dragon age:O did it. Just because I am an Atheist doesn't mean that I hate religious people or can't find it interesting. I am a big fan of Asatro and I know quite a bit about it. It's the same with DA:O. I find religion in DA:O to be handled very well and it adds a lot to the plot and the story.

In ME, I would just find it to be completely out of place and annoying. I get enough of religious people pushing their chest out and talk about how superior they are on a daily basis. And the chances are that the developers that may be religious themselves will just come off as pushy and trying to convert people.

[angol fear]

megamacka wrote...

In ME, I would just find it to be completely out of place and annoying. I get enough of religious people pushing their chest out and talk about how superior they are on a daily basis. And the chances are that the developers that may be religious themselves will just come off as pushy and trying to convert people.

Religion is a very important theme in Mass Effect, it started with mass effect 1 and not only Ashley. Planet's description, and other details in the writing create a critical position on religion. The developers are not religious and they clearly don't want to convert people, Mass Effect tells the exact opposite (since Mass Effect 1).

[Wayning_Star]

I'm not seeing an "age of technology" at all, more the age of what to do next....

[megamacka]

I never said that they were or that they wanted to. But it does happen when highly biased people write stories. Religion isn't an important plot device and the story goes on and functions just fine without it. That's kinda my point. Why push it? I am all for mentioning and bringing up religion when it makes sense, there's a lot of games that do it really well. But I don't see it as a huge deal in the ME series. Why bring it up '' just cuz '' ? It's cool to learn about the culture etc of the different species and societies. I am all for that. But the OP asked '' why everyone seems to have become Atheists ''. I am just saying that it makes perfect sense. Considering the setting.
You don't have to push some religious agenda or have characters preach to you.

And we are living in an '' age of technology ''. You don't have to take the term word for word tho. We've made INSANE leaps in a very short amount of time and we continue to do so. Look at how far we've come in only 20 years. And I am not just talking about cellphones or computers, but also medical and scientific research.

Modifié par megamacka, 30 décembre 2013 - 04:44 .