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Should there BE disk copies of DAI?


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I wonder if people felt this way whenever their particular society began introducing banks. Particularly fractional reserve banks, where your money is given out to other people to spend.

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i have a good connection but some people don't, i think physical copies are still a good thing to have around.

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More resources does not really influence the quality of the game. It seems so because of more resources but it is not guaranteed that you will make an A+ game.

You need to learn and understand the difference between resources not necessarily contributing to a quality game and resources never contributing to a quality game.

I believe he knows the difference. Of course you had to come in and exercise that superiority complex.

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J. Reezy wrote...

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Osena109 wrote...

Am waiting for the Death of Console but ill be happy with Gamestop burning in Flames while i wait


Too bad



that Playstation and XBOX one have  off the shelf bragen  Ben Amd Parts in them   there  Computers for the lack of a  better term    the xbox one even has windows 8 on it   this well be the last generation of Console

Putting computer parts in a machine doesn't turn it into a PC. A Microsoft sytem running a version of a Microsoft OS doesn't say anything.


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book

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Either it wasn't understood, or it was ignored.

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David7204 wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

More resources does not really influence the quality of the game. It seems so because of more resources but it is not guaranteed that you will make an A+ game.

You need to learn and understand the difference between resources not necessarily contributing to a quality game and resources never contributing to a quality game.


You make no sense, you are the pincable of an armchair developer, you are wheelchair developer. It does not matter how many resources you have, the implementation of those resources makes more sense. What you implied was that more money influences the quality of the game but they have been situations where more money does not add anything. Let me give you a history lesson actually.

A few years back there was a software depression, the software produced had low quality on a macroscale. Was the problem the money inflated? no it was the implementation, the development cycle. The development cycle was a waterfall method that impacted the development innefficiently. This is why development when it comes to software it is about the implementation and not about the resources.

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Osena109 wrote...


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book


In my book a mouse and keyboard make a PC or Mac :P

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I like physical copies if they come with something interesting: a metal case, a map, a real manual.

For 99% of games, you get a cheap plastic case, a 1 page manual, and a disk that seems superglued into the case so I'm afraid I'm braking it whenever I pull it out.

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I've had too many problems with downloaded games on PS3/360 to not buy physical copies of console games. PC games are another story though. I almost never buy physical copies of PC games. It takes cool bonuses like cloth maps, statues and such to get me to buy physical copies of PC games, but even then I also buy it digitally for convenience.

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Rakia Time wrote...

Osena109 wrote...


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book


In my book a mouse and keyboard make a PC or Mac :P


your can get a mouse and keyboard  for both  the xbox one and ps4

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Osena109 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Am waiting for the Death of Console but ill be happy with Gamestop burning in Flames while i wait


Too bad



that Playstation and XBOX one have  off the shelf bragen  Ben Amd Parts in them   there  Computers for the lack of a  better term    the xbox one even has windows 8 on it   this well be the last generation of Console

Putting computer parts in a machine doesn't turn it into a PC. A Microsoft sytem running a version of a Microsoft OS doesn't say anything.


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book

You're gonna need to fix that up if I'm to understand what you're saying.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

I like physical copies if they come with something interesting: a metal case, a map, a real manual.

For 99% of games, you get a cheap plastic case, a 1 page manual, and a disk that seems superglued into the case so I'm afraid I'm braking it whenever I pull it out.


yeaaahh...if we do get a physical copy, i would prefer it not require the disk once it's installed. so people with bad connections and so on can still buy it, but we don't have to rely on the disc. 

i usually just get my games on steam or something now, but i bought the fallout new vegas collector's edition because of all the extra things it came with, like the poker chips from the game casinos and the playing card set. they were surprisingly really nice quality and worth the extra money. wouldn't have gotten a physical copy of the game itself otherwise.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Am waiting for the Death of Console but ill be happy with Gamestop burning in Flames while i wait


Too bad



that Playstation and XBOX one have  off the shelf bragen  Ben Amd Parts in them   there  Computers for the lack of a  better term    the xbox one even has windows 8 on it   this well be the last generation of Console

Putting computer parts in a machine doesn't turn it into a PC. A Microsoft sytem running a version of a Microsoft OS doesn't say anything.


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book

You're gonna need to fix that up if I'm to understand what you're saying.


Sure mobo : motherboard     Processor    :POS power supplay  Operationg Systeam 

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Keep feeding it...

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I like having physical copies of games. Besides, with larger games (which DA:I will no doubt be) it's quicker to pick up a copy from the store and install it from the disc than to download it online.

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Should there BE disk copies of DAI?


Yes. Now get back to your nests.

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Osena109 wrote...

Sure mobo : motherboard     Processor    :POS power supplay  Operationg Systeam 

So...the PS3 and 360 are PCs and Macs? The Xbox, PS2, and Dreamcast as well. Interesting...

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Osena109 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Am waiting for the Death of Console but ill be happy with Gamestop burning in Flames while i wait


Too bad



that Playstation and XBOX one have  off the shelf bragen  Ben Amd Parts in them   there  Computers for the lack of a  better term    the xbox one even has windows 8 on it   this well be the last generation of Console

Putting computer parts in a machine doesn't turn it into a PC. A Microsoft sytem running a version of a Microsoft OS doesn't say anything.


Say what   when you put computer parts in to  a case or as you call it Machine   ok lets brake this down for you  so you put  Mobo  a prosser     grachpic card    6 gb or  more of ram  and poS and OS that makes   PC or mac in my book


Not necessarily, the personal computer is basically like a general computer, used for numerous number of activities. The xbox and playstation are specialized computers, which are optimized for one type of activity. These activities are basically graphic optimized activities with multimedia based operating systems.

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David7204 wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

More resources does not really influence the quality of the game. It seems so because of more resources but it is not guaranteed that you will make an A+ game.

You need to learn and understand the difference between resources not necessarily contributing to a quality game and resources never contributing to a quality game.

But WILL they contribute to the game? I mean the price of games/resources are equally divided by suspected cost and perspective profits. Don't get me wrong a great game will sell and will sell well, but there is still a limit on how many resources they can put into a project and I'm not sure the perspective prices are going to go up or that the prices of games are going to go significantly down.

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I really doubt the prices of AAA video games will ever go down. But I can very well imagine developers expanding their games and including more and higher quality content as a result of having more money to work with.

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How asinine. I have no intention of downloading a 30 GB (or even 20 GB) game if I don't have to. CDs cost 20 bucks for 100. That cost is insignificant.

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How asinine. I have no intention of downloading a 30 GB (or even 20 GB) game if I don't have to. CDs cost 20 bucks for 100. That cost is insignificant.


Hardly. The 'cost' is not the price of the CD. It's the profits the manufacturers, shippers, and most importantly, retailers bring home every day. How do you think Wal-Mart and Gamestop turn a profit? By selling mechandise for significantly more than they paid for it.

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David7204 wrote...

I really doubt the prices of AAA video games will ever go down. But I can very well imagine developers expanding their games and including more and higher quality content as a result of having more money to work with.


Digital copies for games =/= more money for developers.

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David7204 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

How asinine. I have no intention of downloading a 30 GB (or even 20 GB) game if I don't have to. CDs cost 20 bucks for 100. That cost is insignificant.


Hardly. The 'cost' is not the price of the CD. It's the profits the manufacturers, shippers, and most importantly, retailers bring home every day. How do you think Wal-Mart and Gamestop turn a profit? By selling mechandise for significantly more than they paid for it.


David, do you have any idea how mercantile selling works? How retail economics work?

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I really doubt the prices of AAA video games will ever go down. But I can very well imagine developers expanding their games and including more and higher quality content as a result of having more money to work with.


Digital copies for games =/= more money for developers.

So where would you suggest the money goes, then?