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[DPSSOC]

Yes there should be physical copies, because otherwise we have no appreciable measure of hoards. I bring someone over and say, "These are my games" and I've got 50 things on a shelf that's something grounded, it's real, and as such can be reacted to. You say, "These are my games" and show somebody a list and it doesn't have the same effect.

It's like showing somebody your bank balance vs having a wad of cash.

[David7204]

DPSSOC wrote...

Yes there should be physical copies, because otherwise we have no appreciable measure of hoards. I bring someone over and say, "These are my games" and I've got 50 things on a shelf that's something grounded, it's real, and as such can be reacted to. You say, "These are my games" and show somebody a list and it doesn't have the same effect.

It's like showing somebody your bank balance vs having a wad of cash.

And yet everyone has a bank account instead of keeping their cash in their mattress.

[David7204]

FatherOfPearl wrote...

David7204 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Are you stupid? If a disc doesn't exist, I don't get the game. Simple as.

Do you have a reason why?

Lots of reasons.

Maybe they have a very slow internet connection, for example, or a bandwidth cap. Maybe they prefer to have a physical copy of the game in case something happens to their system.

A digital copy is far safer than a physical one. As I said earlier, a record of a user's purchase is simply stored (and backed up) on an external server. If something happens, the user simply logs in on a new system and downloads the content again. No scratched, broken, or lost discs, and no harm to the games if something happens to the console.

Modifié par David7204, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:39 .

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

David7204 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

David7204 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Are you stupid? If a disc doesn't exist, I don't get the game. Simple as.

Do you have a reason why?

Lots of reasons.

Maybe they have a very slow internet connection, for example, or a bandwidth cap. Maybe they prefer to have a physical copy of the game in case something happens to their system.

A digital copy is far safer than a physical one. As I said earlier, a record of a user's purchase is simply stored (and backed up) on an external server. If something happens, the user simply logs in on a new system and downloads the content again.

And what makes you think these servers will exist forever? A physical copy, if stored properly will

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Fair, but you're still disregarding my points about their ISP.

And switching to a different one may not be an option.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:40 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

Yes there should be physical copies, because otherwise we have no appreciable measure of hoards. I bring someone over and say, "These are my games" and I've got 50 things on a shelf that's something grounded, it's real, and as such can be reacted to. You say, "These are my games" and show somebody a list and it doesn't have the same effect.

It's like showing somebody your bank balance vs having a wad of cash.

And yet everyone has a bank account instead of keeping their cash in their mattress.

Yeah, that's actually starting to disappear a bit (and by a 'bit', I mean a lot). Like it did back in the 30's.

When the banks screwed everyone over.

Kind of like how they're doing now.

[David7204]

Uh-huh. Yeah.

Speaking of banks, being worried about a server loss and losing your games is kind of silly if you store your money in them. That's where the data is kept on your savings account. Electronic servers.

I have no idea how many times that sort of thing is backed up. It may well be dozens. I really can't imagine much happening short of some disaster that knocks the electricity or something across the country out for years.

Modifié par David7204, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:46 .

[Creator Limbs]

David7204 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

David7204 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Are you stupid? If a disc doesn't exist, I don't get the game. Simple as.

Do you have a reason why?

Lots of reasons.

Maybe they have a very slow internet connection, for example, or a bandwidth cap. Maybe they prefer to have a physical copy of the game in case something happens to their system.

A digital copy is far safer than a physical one. As I said earlier, a record of a user's purchase is simply stored (and backed up) on an external server. If something happens, the user simply logs in on a new system and downloads the content again. No scratched, broken, or lost discs, and no harm to the games if something happens to the console.

The last time I posted in this forum, you responded to my posts with your nonsense. I was about as impressed then as I am with you now: not very.

You're ignoring a valid point in favor of making me out to be somewhat of a technophobe - It's not that I fear my game will be eaten up by the digital storage servers, it's that I don't feel like leaving my game console idle for hours at a time while it downloads something because frankly, I'd rather be playing the game.

As FatherOfPearl stated, maybe I have a shitty internet connection.

Or maybe my reasons for wanting a disc version of the game don't pertain to you at all, so step off.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Northern Sun wrote...

I don't get why people are so attached to physical copies of video games. If I told someone I bought CD's instead of using iTunes because I wanted physical copies of my music, most would stare at me like I was some kind of weirdo. Now that day 1 digital is a thing for both the One and PS4, I see myself buying fewer and fewer digital versions. I only time I see myself getting physical versions is if there's a pre-order bonus or some physical item with the collector's edition I really want.

Dude, I know people who still buy vinyls. You aren't going to be stared at like a looney for getting a CD.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:47 .

[David7204]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

The last time I posted in this forum, you responded to my posts with your nonsense. I was about as impressed then as I am with you now: not very.

You're ignoring a valid point in favor of making me out to be somewhat of a technophobe - It's not that I fear my game will be eaten up by the digital storage servers, it's that I don't feel like leaving my game console idle for hours at a time while it downloads something because frankly, I'd rather be playing the game.

As FatherOfPearl stated, maybe I have a shitty internet connection.

Or maybe my reasons for wanting a disc version of the game don't pertain to you at all, so step off.

I'm fairly sure that Steam and Origin allow you to download the game beforehand and start playing at midnight or whatever. The moment the game is 'released.' And if they don't, it's only a matter of time before they do. So if you're that desperate to play a game ASAP, digital distribution will make things far faster for you. And if you're not desperate, you really shouldn't have that big of a problem planning your download to start before you go do something else for a few hours. 

So that's a rather silly complaint.

Modifié par David7204, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:51 .

[Creator Limbs]

I don't play on PC.

I am a console gamer, as exhibited by my terminology use when I said "I don't like leaving my game console idle..."

Do you even read people's posts or just try to argue with everyone?

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

I wonder if people felt this way whenever their particular society began introducing banks. Particularly fractional reserve banks, where your money is given out to other people to spend.

Isn't that when we started to get economic crashes IE when everything went to **** for society and it all became a for profit capatalist hellscape of mediocraty? Relying on currency with no direct physical measure of value that was driven more by speculation then by real world events and cost people their ability to self sustain, retire at whatever age they wanted, and introduced a new caste system of lower, middle, and upper classes?

[David7204]

Everything still applies. I have no idea how downloads work on the new Xbox and Playstation, but it's only a matter a time until such features are implemented if they aren't already.

Modifié par David7204, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:54 .

[David7204]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I wonder if people felt this way whenever their particular society began introducing banks. Particularly fractional reserve banks, where your money is given out to other people to spend.

Isn't that when we started to get economic crashes IE when everything went to **** for society and it all became a for profit capatalist hellscape of mediocraty? Relying on currency with no direct physical measure of value that was driven more by speculation then by real world events and cost people their ability to self sustain, retire at whatever age they wanted, and introduced a new caste system of lower, middle, and upper classes?

Ha ha.

No.

[Star fury]

OP should really know that other countries exist in the world, not only the USA. And they have much less income and much worse internet connections.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

David7204 wrote...

Everything still applies. I have no idea how downloads work on the new Xbox and Playstation, but it's only a matter a time until such features are implemented if they aren't already.

prostheticlimbs wrote...

[...]
I don't feel like leaving my game console idle for hours at a time while it downloads something...

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 décembre 2013 - 06:56 .

[Star fury]

Morocco Mole wrote...

hahaha

You talk less and less sense than you used to.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Star fury wrote...

OP should really know that other countries exist in the world, not only the USA. And they have much less income and much worse internet connections.

Not even the united states has what I would call "universal internet" where you can access it anywhere in the country. Other nations maybe, but not the US.

[AtreiyaN7]

Sometimes I don't like spending hours downloading a game. I can, but I'd rather not be spending my bandwidth on it if I don't have to. I'll do it if it's something I buy on impulse on Steam. Otherwise, if it's something I'm preordering way ahead of time, I prefer a physical copy.

[David7204]

I'm not even sure what you mean by 'idle.' You don't like your electronics running something unless you're sitting there watching it?

Are you telling me you sit and watch your computer run virus scans, install programs, and do other updates and whatever? You don't get up and do something else?

In any case, it doesn't even matter. I know the Xbox allows you to play games while downloads are running, and I think the PS4 does too. So it doesn't have to be idle. You can play games while stuff is being downloaded.

[Creator Limbs]

David7204 wrote...

Everything still applies. I have no idea how downloads work on the new Xbox and Playstation, but it's only a matter a time until such features are implemented if they aren't already.

No, everything doesn't apply, because even if day 1 play without download were to be made available, I would still have to stream game files from the cloud and that would require a decent internet connection.

Once again, my internet connection is good, but it still takes approximately 1 hour to download 1GB

Do you even understand how big games are these days? Do you understand how big a gigabyte is?

No, of course not, you'd rather push through and ignore the valid points in favor of the points that don't actually matter.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Osena109 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 http://www.gamepolit...q3#.UrvEHfRDt9I 

Intersting Digital sells are surpassing retail

No figures are given for the console or platform for which digital copies are being downloaded. There isn't a lot of information there saying how or what games are being downloaded. It also doesn't disseminate DLC, subscriptions, social games, or mobile games from downloaded titles that can be bought with a physical copy. It just combines them all into one large grouping. Physical game software (disc) sales alone equal $1.3 billion for Q3 of FY 2013. As I said, all digital content combined went towards $1.75 billion for Q3 of FY 2013.

No figures are required am not pro pc or pro game systeam am pro   digital download

Osena109 wrote...

Am waiting for the Death of Console but ill be happy with Gamestop burning in Flames while i wait

You disgrace all neutral things. 

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 26 décembre 2013 - 07:00 .