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So, what's the worst Adept in your opinion?


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NuclearTech76

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DarkFaerie316 wrote...

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Gonna say the volus tho it's a close run thing with the phoenix adept. Really don't like that guy!!!

I once felt that way but that kit is an absolute monster. 



:blink: Got a build that I can try out? Might play him if you have an interesting build.=]

66653 or just ignore lash and pack a Venom with Incendiary. You have to roll cancel smash which gives you DR and makes it hard for you to be hit and killed. The Venom fills in with stagger which is something the character needs. I would run cyclonics and Geth scanner until you get used to him then you can run power amps instead of cyclonics when you get used to canceling smash with roll or melee.  He's also good with the Talon if you don't like the Venom but then you can't play in the open as much and have to abuse the smash through walls more. One talon shot and singularity neutralizes most mooks. 

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

DarkFaerie316 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

DarkFaerie316 wrote...

Gonna say the volus tho it's a close run thing with the phoenix adept. Really don't like that guy!!!

I once felt that way but that kit is an absolute monster. 



:blink: Got a build that I can try out? Might play him if you have an interesting build.=]

66653 or just ignore lash and pack a Venom with Incendiary. You have to roll cancel smash which gives you DR and makes it hard for you to be hit and killed. The Venom fills in with stagger which is something the character needs. I would run cyclonics and Geth scanner until you get used to him then you can run power amps instead of cyclonics when you get used to canceling smash with roll or melee.  He's also good with the Talon if you don't like the Venom but then you can't play in the open as much and have to abuse the smash through walls more. One talon shot and singularity neutralizes most mooks. 


Cool, will try that with the Talon as the troll store still won't give me the Venom :( It did however finally give me the geth spitfire. Dang thing weighs a ton tho:huh:

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KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

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Vanilla Asari. Squishy as hell and her power output is not that good.

Lololololololololol.


Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.


That's not her fault. 

Pretty much. It sounds like a personal problem.

On topic, I would've said the Volus, but I've seen Hoochie play him. Absolutely beastly.

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Harbingerpromo wrote...

Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.


Volus is a tank compared to asari.

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Harbingerpromo wrote...
Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.

Yeah, l2pasari lolucantplayasari

Dude while I was shocked to see you say Asari I understand. Not every character suits a person's playstyle. I HATED the Collector when it first came out. It has almost no shield/health to sustain combat. Everybody kept trying to convince me how good it was because of the damage it causes. I still couldn't see past the health/shield ESPECIALLY with AM.

On topic: Human Vanguard. Has less endurance than Little Mac when he has to fight Tyson.

Modifié par Shadohz, 26 décembre 2013 - 09:30 .


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MofuggerX wrote...

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Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.


Volus is a tank compared to asari.


I know she is a good kit, I know that to some of us brings good memories of stasis + carnifex, but I just can't deal with her. And I have tried it all, no stasis, full stasis less health, full stasis less passives, half stasis half passives, nothing works for me against any faction.

And since this is "your opinion" topic, I'm stating mine.

Modifié par Harbingerpromo, 26 décembre 2013 - 09:33 .


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Shadohz wrote...

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Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.

Yeah, l2pasari lolucantplayasari

Dude while I was shocked to see you say Asari I understand. Not every character suits a person's playstyle. I HATED the Collector when it first came out. It has almost no shield/health to sustain combat. Everybody kept trying to convince me how good it was because of the damage it causes. I still couldn't see past the health/shield ESPECIALLY with AM.

On topic: Human Vanguard. Has less endurance than Little Mac when he has to fight Tyson.

Isn't the ACA in the top three adepts for base health/shields? If not, the DR from SS effectively puts him there.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 décembre 2013 - 09:35 .


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Hard to say. Adepts are actually all really good.

I'd say the Phoenix, just because I have to pick one.

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Shadohz wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...
Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.

Yeah, l2pasari lolucantplayasari

Dude while I was shocked to see you say Asari I understand. Not every character suits a person's playstyle. I HATED the Collector when it first came out. It has almost no shield/health to sustain combat. Everybody kept trying to convince me how good it was because of the damage it causes. I still couldn't see past the health/shield ESPECIALLY with AM.

On topic: Human Vanguard. Has less endurance than Little Mac when he has to fight Tyson.

Isn't the ACA in the top three adepts for base health/shields? If not, the DR from SS effectively puts him there.


I believe he is #3 behind the Krogan and Batarian as far as base health/shields.

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Harbingerpromo wrote...

Vanilla Asari. Squishy as hell and her power output is not that good.


my noob friendly stasis sniper says otherwise :D

Stasis everything!:lol:

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Shadohz wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...
Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.

Yeah, l2pasari lolucantplayasari

Dude while I was shocked to see you say Asari I understand. Not every character suits a person's playstyle. I HATED the Collector when it first came out. It has almost no shield/health to sustain combat. Everybody kept trying to convince me how good it was because of the damage it causes. I still couldn't see past the health/shield ESPECIALLY with AM.

On topic: Human Vanguard. Has less endurance than Little Mac when he has to fight Tyson.

Isn't the ACA in the top three adepts for base health/shields? If not, the DR from SS effectively puts him there.


He is.

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Shadohz wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...
Laugh all you want. I did a gold solo with a volus adept on first atempt and I failed three times with the asari.

Yeah, l2pasari lolucantplayasari

Dude while I was shocked to see you say Asari I understand. Not every character suits a person's playstyle. I HATED the Collector when it first came out. It has almost no shield/health to sustain combat. Everybody kept trying to convince me how good it was because of the damage it causes. I still couldn't see past the health/shield ESPECIALLY with AM.

On topic: Human Vanguard. Has less endurance than Little Mac when he has to fight Tyson.

Isn't the ACA in the top three adepts for base health/shields? If not, the DR from SS effectively puts him there.

That's what it says in the numbers, but I can still play a drell or asari with no shield boost better than I can collector with shield boost AND cyc mod. Maybe it's just his big **** head blocking my view of incoming fire. I like him more than I used to but I still can't adapt to his DR. And yes I generally spec him for 4 swarm/DR.

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Volus.

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Volus, but just because he's basically a soldier with stasis.
I expect an adept to detonate some biotic explosions from time to time...

Even the phoenix is not that good because he can't detonate on armor unless the singularity explodes after he smashes (with biotic evolution) something, and because the vanguard can do everything better (same for the volus).

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Volus, but just because he's basically a soldier with stasis.
I expect an adept to detonate some biotic explosions from time to time...

Even the phoenix is not that good because he can't detonate on armor unless the singularity explodes after he smashes (with biotic evolution) something, and because the vanguard can do everything better (same for the volus).


What? 

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KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

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Volus, but just because he's basically a soldier with stasis.
I expect an adept to detonate some biotic explosions from time to time...

Even the phoenix is not that good because he can't detonate on armor unless the singularity explodes after he smashes (with biotic evolution) something, and because the vanguard can do everything better (same for the volus).


What? 



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N7didacus wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

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Volus, but just because he's basically a soldier with stasis.
I expect an adept to detonate some biotic explosions from time to time...

Even the phoenix is not that good because he can't detonate on armor unless the singularity explodes after he smashes (with biotic evolution) something, and because the vanguard can do everything better (same for the volus).


What? scrub 



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Duh, for some reason I was thinking about smash, as he can't detonate smash on armour, he's forced to use singularity first or after which could be tricky if the target is fast.

Point remains, vanguard can detonate better while recharging shields and doing more than 1000N force.

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There's no bad adept in the game. But Volus is the worst of the best.

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Headless Nemesis wrote...

Duh, for some reason I was thinking about smash, as he can't detonate smash on armour, he's forced to use singularity first or after which could be tricky if the target is fast.


Why wouldn't you want to use singularity first? You can position it in the enemies' route, which is quite predictable, and then detonate it with Smash once they're primed.

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Duh, for some reason I was thinking about smash, as he can't detonate smash on armour, he's forced to use singularity first or after which could be tricky if the target is fast.


Why wouldn't you want to use singularity first? You can position it in the enemies' route, which is quite predictable, and then detonate it with Smash once they're primed.


Because not on every map and situation is possible without getting harmed.
That's why most people dislike the phoenix kits, on open maps they are really difficult to play.
So if I have to expose myself to cast singularity (because if you take radius it lasts only 8 seconds and you have to be in smash range to detonate) and to cast smash I prefer to expose myself first to smash, and then charge in to detonate while staggering every non boss unit and getting my shields back.
It's not like he can't use singularity, my point is that everything he does the vanguard does better, singularity is much more powerful when it's used by the regular human with shockwave.
But that's just my opinion, and I'm a huge fan of the phoenix vanguard :wizard:

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

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Gonna say the volus tho it's a close run thing with the phoenix adept. Really don't like that guy!!!

I once felt that way but that kit is an absolute monster. 


The only problem I find with him is that he's a close range character, he can't detonate explosions from range, so it makes him tricky to get used to.

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Eh, probably the Volus.

However, there aren't any that are actually bad kits, he's just the worst at being an adept (using your biotics to actually kill things).

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Headless Nemesis wrote...

Duh, for some reason I was thinking about smash, as he can't detonate smash on armour, he's forced to use singularity first or after which could be tricky if the target is fast.

Point remains, vanguard can detonate better while recharging shields and doing more than 1000N force.


Singularity primes targets for a window after they walk out of it. As long as you have quick cooldowns you can detonate singularity's prime with smash, even if the target walks out of singularity immediately. 

Also, this can be done on synch kill usnits more safely than charging to detonate and does a heck of a lot more damage than charge.

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