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[Palathas]

Yeah, I could certainly discern emotion and voice inflections with Mr Meer's performance. Some people seem to be slightly tone deaf, or maybe selectively tone deaf. On the other hand it could just be me hearing things that aren't there. 

Modifié par Palathas, 20 janvier 2010 - 10:30 .

[Daerog]

I liked Meer's work with Shepard. Hale was good, too.

[Mox Ruuga]

Mordigan wrote...

Kaidan wasn't an N7?  Strange, since he served under Commander Shepard, and was an officer himself.  If Kaidan wasn't N7, then what was he?   A regular Marine?  That doesn't make any sense to me, and is probably just a logic quirk in the game.

Perhaps you should read the Codex again.

You've obviously never been around Military guys before.....especially elite forces Military guys..  And you can't say that real life doesn't have any impact, because it does.  This game draws heavily from the real world for inspiration. 

Lol. Obviously. Actually, I have served in the military, tho I obviously don't need to bring it up randomly for no reason whatsoever...

What you wrote has no meaning, since Alistair and Kaidan are obviously not alpha male type personalities, which was your original claim. So why did you try to sidetrack and claim that in RL they would be something else, than what they are in the game? And what relevance does that have to your original claim?

Yes and Bioware had their motivations for "castrating" Kaidan and Alistair.  For one, they were romanceable by FemShep (female PC), and although a lot of women love the dominant alpha male types, many women are turned off by them....until the alpha male learns to increase his sensitivity around them, then he becomes perfect. 

Also, making Alistair and Kaidan more dominant (or true to life) would take the shine off the PC..

Just think, Kaidan was one rank under Shepard, so he should be capable of leading or commanding.  But this would have obviously contradicted the game's storyline.

Yes, them being alpha male personalities might cause problems. If you "waste" enough time and Sten has had enough, he will challenge you. Alistair and Kaidan do not. So we are in an agreement then that A & K are not alpha males? Which was my whole point all along.

[Count Viceroy]

I like them both, for different reasons. Hale does good work, but so does Meer. And since I play both genders as my "canon" shepards. Their different VO style and delivery makes my two shepards a lot different despite delivering the same lines. It's a win/win for me.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 janvier 2010 - 10:52 .

[Wynne]

Stanley Woo wrote...
 He is about as big a geek as once can get, and from what I've heard, he enjoyed voicing Shepard (and several other characters in ME2).
...
Would it make you feel better to know that, for better or worse (depending on how you enjoyed the Shepard VO in ME1), Meer's and Hale's reads on ME2 are more similar while not diminishing either actor's awesomeness?

I would believe it, actually. And it does make me feel pretty good.

For the first game, I was very disappointed by the emotional difference, for instance, in the quest "I Remember Me." Jennifer Hale made that quest a tearjerker every time; Mark Meer didn't seem to have the experience to make it happen. Maybe it was just a character choice, or maybe the director didn't think a military man needed to show much emotion and thus wasn't as critical as I would've hoped for... whatever the case, in the first game I felt a bit disappointed when I compared the two.

But so far, from the vids for Mass Effect 2, there seems to be a subtle difference that I am liking. I think it's conviction; he just sounds like he means what he's saying more this time. I look forward to my Dude!Shep playthrough a lot more for this game. I hope in the sadder scenes that he really gets a manly lump in his throat; that I would like to hear. I don't expect a male voice actor to sound all weepy and girly, that's not what I mean, but I do expect him to sound more than a little bummed if one of his friends or his love interest should get killed.

Or if a bottle of really fine and rare Belgian earth-beer that he was saving up gets cruelly dashed to pieces somehow. I expect hoarseness, passion, and restrained man-tragedy in such an event. I want to hear choked tears in his voice, dammit! REACH, my man, REACH!! REACH for that beer that you could not save, that you will never have; that BEAUTIFUL Westvleteren crushed upon the agonizing rocks of existence in this cold and unforgiving abyss of space...

I'm glad you stuck with him. I'd like to see what he can do. And for better or worse, he's Shepard now. Better, I expect.

Modifié par Wynne, 20 janvier 2010 - 11:01 .

[Schneidend]

I liked both actors, despite the extremely vocal detractors of Mark Meer.

I couldn't envision Shepard with any voices besides those two.

[Jonathan Shepard]

 Some of Meer's lines fell flat sure, but so did some of Hale's. Male Shepard sounded like a guy who'd been through a lot, and with the Colonist/Sole Survivor background that I chose, it sounded perfect when I played almost all the time. 

The VA's did amazing. Much better than almost every other game.

On the note of VA's, I watched a history video in class today narrated by Martin Sheen... 

[Grumpiergoat]

Mwahaha.



Anyway, they presumably kept Meer because it's still the same character, so stick with the same actor. I'm rather neutral on his performance.

[WrexShepard]

Well, this was directed to the whole thread, but some guys here have their head screwed on correctly. But to the OP and anyone like him- this is for you.

Modifié par WrexShepard, 20 janvier 2010 - 11:34 .

[mopotter]

I liked his voice. He's my male shep. I would feel sort of weird if he sounded ... not himself. True I like some other voices better, but I thought he was ok and I'm glad all of the voice actors came back. .

[Deflagratio]

WrexShepard wrote...


Well, this was directed to the whole thread, but some guys here have their head screwed on correctly. But to the OP and anyone like him- this is for you.

A CHALLENGER APPEARS: <For title of most awesome Facepalm, current title holder: Captain Picard>

[MentalKase]

I'm for one glad they kept Mark Meer on for male Shepards VO. I like that fact that Shepard is sometimes hard to read when it comes to sound of his voice. Makes him a bigger bad a** in my book. Some of the facial expressions would carry the true meaning and even then they should be to suttle at times. So Shepard keeps that professional distance between him and the galaxy.

[Duncan1337]

Mark Meer is an awesome voice actor. I think he did a wonderful job. Jennifer Hale is amazing as well of course.



But to not like Mark Meer's performance you must have very high standards.

[Schneidend]

Deflagratio wrote...

WrexShepard wrote...


Well, this was directed to the whole thread, but some guys here have their head screwed on correctly. But to the OP and anyone like him- this is for you.

A CHALLENGER APPEARS: 

Well, obviously, we need to hold a Proving to determine the true champ. My money's on the master assassin.

[FearTheLiving]

I like his voice acting in the first game and it looks like he improved much for the second so I'm glad they kept him, hope to hear his voice in ME3.

[soulchild]

I loved his voice

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

His voice is okay, he sounds like a marine...go figure? I think Hale does a better job, she's more dramatic, which is refreshing. I'm glad Bioware kept them both.

[jidnis]

deadshame wrote...

Huh, I rather liked Mr. Meer, I thought he was awesome. I will admit, he is a much better voice for the renegade options. I didn't dislike Hale's FemShep, I just don't think it fit how she looked is all. Because of her voice, I just couldn't bring myself to do a full playthrough as a FemShep. My two cents.

I couldn't disagree more - the voice talent for femshep was very credible for a woman in a position of leadership.  A firm, calm and commanding voice without sounding too man-ish is difficult to balance

[Hathur]

It would have been really off putting if they swapped the character's voice actor. Just as off putting if they drastically changed his face, size, posture etc for no apparent reason.



Meer's voice is basically male shep. For better or worse. He did an alright job at it in my opinion. Better than the majority of games out there - but nothing exceptional.



Hale's performance for female shep was stronger in my opinion, but she has an insanely long resume of voice acting experience. Even with that, Meer's performance holds up adequately when put next to Hale's.



I'm glad Meer was used for ME2 and I certainly hope (and expect) he'll be back for ME3.

[izmirtheastarach]

Gotta say, Mark Meer sounds pretty damn animated in that launch trailer.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 21 janvier 2010 - 02:07 .

[BlackwindTheCommander]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Gotta say, Mark Meer sounds pretty damn animated in that launch trailer.

The best hes ever sounded! He got me ready to go kill some bug men!

[Nimander]

I think both Hale and Meer were good in ME. I like them both, though I admit I couldn't get into Hale as much as Meer. Mostly 'cause her acting sounded a lot like Janeway from Star Trek, and I could not STAND that character. The similarity annoyed me. But objectively, she did a hell of a job.

[ToshiStation38]

I admit that some of Meer's lines sound a little off, but his acting in general definitely suits the character.



I hate how people talk about Hale as if her voicing of Shepard is SOOOO much better than Meer's, when really they're both pretty much equal. They're both pretty excellent, and sometimes some of their lines sound a little off.

[TheDove]

JasonPogo wrote...

The guy is so god damned deadpan it hurts.  There was no imation to his voice acting at all.  Happy, sad, lustfull all sounded the same...  My main Shepard was FemShepard mostly since she was actually voiced well.  God I hope the voice actor dose better this time.

.....Either trollin' or a trend follower. Or your opinion is just outspoken in a way that seems unreasonable.

[Sovereign 666]

Marlina wrote...

Sovereign 666 wrote...

HAHAHAHAHA! an hero FTW!

Yeah, just wait till one of your close friends kill themselves, we'll see how funny you think it is then.

My close friends aren't weak. If you're that upset about being bullied, you don't deserve to live. Better to just remove yourself from the gene pool.