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[The Angry One]

Stanley Woo wrote...

, but don't you think that if he was really as bad as some people claim that we would have kept him on? ?

You kept that insipid monkey face for default Shepard so forgive us if we don't consider your.. quality control up to par concerning manShep.

[Reclusiarch]

Wow.. it's like.. people have different opinions! What is the world coming to!

[InvaderErl]

I like Shep's face.

[The Angry One]

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

Modifié par The Angry One, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:29 .

[TheDove]

The Angry One wrote...

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

You have very high expectations of appearence. I would hate to see what you find to be passable as attractive.

[InvaderErl]

The Angry One wrote...

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

...

Kay

Modifié par InvaderErl, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:33 .

[The Angry One]

TheDove wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

You have very high expectations of appearence. I would hate to see what you find to be passable as attractive.

Attractiveness isn't the issue, the issue is that face is the face of a gormless and annoying man. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he looks like some waiter at a pretentious wine bar trying his best to look tough and oh so manly and failing miserably. This is no doubt a result of the face being that of a male model. Models are invariably pretentious twits, whatever gender.

[TheDove]

The Angry One wrote...

TheDove wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

You have very high expectations of appearence. I would hate to see what you find to be passable as attractive.

Attractiveness isn't the issue, the issue is that face is the face of a gormless and annoying man. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he looks like some waiter at a pretentious wine bar trying his best to look tough and oh so manly and failing miserably. This is no doubt a result of the face being that of a male model. Models are invariably pretentious twits, whatever gender.

So your issue is that the face is based off a model.


Wow.

[The Angry One]

TheDove wrote...

So your issue is that the face is based off a model.


Wow.

A particularily annoying looking model, yes.

[TheDove]

The Angry One wrote...

TheDove wrote...

So your issue is that the face is based off a model.


Wow.

A particularily annoying looking model, yes.

Just clarifying. I have nothing more to add. I suppose...I have to accept that as your opinion.

[Mordigan]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Perhaps you should read the Codex again.

Yeah, you're right..  I just checked it, and Kaidan isn't N7.  I guess I assumed he was because the Military doesn't assemble special forces units together where the skill levels differs amongst the operatives.

Yes, them being alpha male personalities might cause problems. If you "waste" enough time and Sten has had enough, he will challenge you. Alistair and Kaidan do not. So we are in an agreement then that A & K are not alpha males? Which was my whole point all along.

True, I must concede the point this time

[Schneidend]

InvaderErl wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I for one can never understand how anybody could like that face. Staring at it for any length of time gives me an irresistable urge to jam butter knives in his eyes and ram forks up his nose.

...

Kay

Freaked out Orpheus is freaked the **** out.

[Stinkface27]

I like his voice =3

[MacedonianWolf]

GmanFresh wrote...

i find that most male gamers here hate all the men in bioware games...ie carth/kaiden/probably jacob/alistair..... i think it is envy of some sort. leading male envy it is

Man, Allistair is awesome, I loved that dude since the first convo I had with him. And Kaiden was cool, just not as cool as Ashley, I thought. But I see what you're saying, that male envy will get the best of you sometimes.

[La Sangreal]

Mark is an incredibly funny guy. I love his improv.

[LurchALC]

Mark Meer is awesome. F*** you if you think differently.



When I think Shepard, I think Mark Meer. If he was in a movie i would think "DUDE! ITS COMMANDER SHEPARD!"



Just like I do with the guy who voices Anderson

[TuringPoint]

The Angry One wrote...

Attractiveness isn't the issue, the issue is that face is the face of a gormless and annoying man. 

I agree, sadly :/  He's attractive, and he looks more like a real person than my custom Shepard, but meh.

On the topic at hand:

Yes, Meer smeared some lines.  I think Meer has earned his lumps, though - and changing voice actors would be quite jarring.  

Modifié par Alocormin, 21 janvier 2010 - 06:39 .

[Murmillos]

Somebody is trolling too hard to "pretend" to hate Meer that much.



If he was the only choice to play Command Shepard as, I could understand - but since you have an alternate sex/voice, its trollville in here.

[Schneidend]

MacedonianWolf wrote...

GmanFresh wrote...

i find that most male gamers here hate all the men in bioware games...ie carth/kaiden/probably jacob/alistair..... i think it is envy of some sort. leading male envy it is

Man, Allistair is awesome, I loved that dude since the first convo I had with him. And Kaiden was cool, just not as cool as Ashley, I thought. But I see what you're saying, that male envy will get the best of you sometimes.

Carth I didn't care for, but Kaiden and Alistair are awesome. My Grey Warden, the one serving as my avatar, is totally bromancing it up with Alistair. They even once hit the same enemy at the same time, killed it, and both leveled up from it. I pictured them excitedly bumping chests and pounding fists while Morrigan looked on, utterly baffled.

[Marlina]

Mordigan wrote...

Sorry, but I don't feel any guilt towards what I said, nor do I have much compassion/understanding towards people that "self destruct" because hostility is projected towards them ..

Life is difficult for everyone, and we ALL have our hardships and challenges.  It's up to us to adapt and overcome, and if we don't, we must accept the consequences..

Your friend chose the path of weakness....no one hanged him, he hanged himself.

And if you find me to be an insensitive ****** for stating the truth........well I can live with that..

I didn't know that you were a troll, Mordigan, I remember talking reasonably to you in the old forums. Oh well, just goes to show how wrong first impressions are.

Life is difficult for everyone, yes, but is it equally difficult? Do you presume that you've faced as many hardships as, say, the earthquake victims of Haiti? You have no idea what other people might go through, yet you still think you have the right to judge them? That's beyond arrogant. 

Furthermore, do you really believe that we are we all equally capable of enduring these hardships? Would you laugh at a man without legs because he couldn't make the bus in time? You seem to think that it's somehow his fault that he has an impairment and that he's somehow "weak" for not overcoming this disability. 

Of course, you'll tell me that that's different, since those people didn't choose for those things to happen to them. You basically claim that modern psychology has no meaning and that mental disabilities are "fake". Well, I have news for you.
Depression is real. It's clinically proven. If you deny the possibility of someone being depressed enough to hang themselves, you might as well deny that the leg-less man can't walk. Do you really think people just go and hang themselves for no good reason at all? It takes a lot of **** to push a person that far. I won't call committing suicide brave, but it definitely takes a lot to make that decision.

I can tell that you've never been bullied, or at least been bullied *enough* to realize how big an impact it can have on your life. Even more so, I can tell that you've never had anyone close to you commit suicide. While I don't want to wish that horror upon anyone, I think that would be the only way for you to properly understand the offensiveness of what you're saying. Like I said, I can only hope that you'll grow up eventually, and realize the foolishness of what you're saying.

To everyone else, I realize that this is very off-topic, and I apologize for that. This is just something that I feel very strongly about. (Those who have experienced this will know what I'm talking about.) Thank you for your understanding. 
I've already stated my preference for Hale. I'm sure Meer is a very nice and talented man, and I do think he's done a great job, I just prefer a female character. 

[Kreidian]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Mark Meer is a heck of a guy. I've done improv with him, and I've spoken with him on many occasions. He is about as big a geek as once can get, and from what I've heard, he enjoyed voicing Shepard (and several other characters in ME2). He is capable of much more expression than you can hear in the ME1 dialogue, but don't you think that if he was really as bad as some people claim that we would have kept him on? That the VO director wouldn't change his read during his recording sessions or give him directions to, in essence, "act better?"

Would it make you feel better to know that, for better or worse (depending on how you enjoyed the Shepard VO in ME1), Meer's and Hale's reads on ME2 are more similar while not diminishing either actor's awesomeness?

Good to hear.

Honestly I will fully admit to being a huge fan of Jennifer Hale's work. And I feel she truly deserves all the recognition she can for her awesome talent. ( Probably deserves more in fact, seeing as we haven't seen much from you guys regarding Female Shepard in Mass Effect 2, all the promos are nothing but Male Shep. )

That being said this takes absolutely nothing away from Mark Meer's own great performance. I agree he's a great talent as well. I happen to like Hale a bit more but that's just a personal preference. I still really like Meer's work and really respect his own great abilities as well. From everything I've seen and heard Mark has done some truly awesome work for ME2, and honestly I would be far more disappointed if he HADN'T been the voice of Male Shep for this game. 

I tip my hat to both great voice actors, and I eagerly look forward to their continuing awesome performances!

[Static Entropy]

Playing the first game I found that while Hale's performance might be a little bit stronger on the whole, it really clashed with some character concepts (like my shell-shocked Colonist sole-survivor). Meer's work, on the other hand, seemed a lot more flexible--his voice worked fine with both my nutcase Renegade Soldier and my utilitarian Engineer. Anyway, I love them both, and I'm having a really hard time deciding whether I want to start with one of my male Shepards or with one of their female counterparts.

[Yootje]

I must say, I wasn't too impressed with male Shepard in ME1. I started by playing femShep and after that, I just couldn't get used to male Shepard. His voice seemed... a bit off to me. He was good in the Renegade lines, but for neutral and Paragon he just fell flat.

But! From what I've heard of ME2 so far, I like him! It sounds like he's improved, or found the character, or whatever it is VA's do. I'm looking forward to playing both genders now.

[Mordigan]

Hey Marlina, I PM'd a response to your post, so check your inbox

I feel this is mostly a misunderstanding, so hopefully it will clear things up a bit..