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[Harbingerpromo]

Kislitsin wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...

Havok. Offers nothing besides a debuf

and stim packs... and 1000N charge while WD specced...
yep, the worst character ever
[sarcasm]

Lolpacks are nice, indeed, but I would have like an offensive power that actually works, not like 1000N charge that does ZERO damage if the target has moved an inch, which rarely happens, because, as we all know in this game the enemy never moves and that without talking a long ass animation.

All you can reliable do is have a good weapon and spam cryo blast and lolpacks.

yep, worst soldier indeed

[ALTBOULI]

megabeast37215 wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

I stand by what I said Vanilla human soldier > BF3

Sure.. because the ability to self detonate 6/6 fire explosions is clearly inferior to a character than cannot do so. Lol...

Yes because you have unlimited grenades and can therefore detonate reguarly. I can create my own explosions with concussive shot and incendiary rounds and can do so more reguarly than with the BF3

Did you really just use the "grenades are a finite resource" argument? Lol.. lol.. lol..

Here's another reason why Incendiary ammo/conc shot sucks... You have to prime, detonate, then not apply anymore Incendiary ammo for 3 seconds so the initial primes wears off, then prime and detonate again. That's really annoying vs bosses... Where the BF3 soldier can just shoot/carnage/nade over and over again at the speed of whatever his cooldown is. It's not like he needs nades for mooks anyway... Ammo prime and carnage wrecks shielded mooks (I run him with  a Disruptor ammo Venom).

Yes because the ability to detonate you 6/6 fire explosions are dependant on grenades so in the example you have given its very relevant. Carnage is a stronger than concussive shot but is slow when fired and has a longer cool down than concusive shot, making it less practical for me

[dudemacha]

Koenig888 wrote...

modok8 wrote...

Probably the quarian
Marksman is an awesome power and tac scan works okay with it because of the extended duration
But his passives are average, his fitness was never fixed and sabatoge is garbage to use with marksman.

Is there any actual proof that the QMS fitness is glitched?

I think he was pointing out his low relative fitness to other quarians

[Wizard of Ox]

Havoc strike is awesome.

[Saints]

Oh my god.

Why are people saying the QMS sucks? Just having marksman gives him a edge. Does not have the Tsol passives but it's sabotage, tac scan, and his strafe makes up for it.

[Baby Quarian]

Saints944 wrote...

Oh my god.

Why are people saying the QMS sucks? Just having marksman gives him a edge. Does not have the Tsol passives but it's sabotage, tac scan, and his strafe makes up for it.

QMS +Saber is win

[AustereLemur799]

Shepard demonstrated bad leadership skills which led to Jenkins's death. What ever happened to staggered file and leap frog tactics?

As for the worst soldier; I'm going to have to answer to my personal inadequacies. I've never played the Quarian Marksman, so I can't make a fair evaluation of the kit.

My weakest soldier had to be the N7 Destroyer just because I really couldn't play it well - others can, sure. But not me.

Runners-up has to be the vorcha soldier, just because I never actually decided what weapon to slap on it - I ran through my whole armoury but never found a good fit.

[AustereLemur799]

Baby Quarian wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Oh my god.

Why are people saying the QMS sucks? Just having marksman gives him a edge. Does not have the Tsol passives but it's sabotage, tac scan, and his strafe makes up for it.

QMS +Saber is win

I'm the first to admit that I have little experience with the Marksman power and even less with the QMS, but why would you need Marksman with a weapon like the Saber when it's already so accurate?

Thanks in advance

[Evil]

AustereLemur799 wrote...

I'm the first to admit that I have little experience with the Marksman power and even less with the QMS, but why would you need Marksman with a weapon like the Saber when it's already so accurate?

It's mostly for the RoF boost, not the accuracy.

[AustereLemur799]

Evil Mastered wrote...

AustereLemur799 wrote...

I'm the first to admit that I have little experience with the Marksman power and even less with the QMS, but why would you need Marksman with a weapon like the Saber when it's already so accurate?

It's mostly for the RoF boost, not the accuracy.

Fair enough

But is rate-of-fire really an issue in this game? How much are we talking? I'm a gold player and weapons like the Saber have never posed a problem. Generally, weapons with a slower rate of fire tend to be more powerful than faster weapons (e.g. faster spraying weapons like SMGs).

There's always a price to pay for power. You just need to adjust your gameplay to work to the strengths of the weapon.

I was never good enough to try out Marksman. I witnessed a lot of people utilise the TGS really effectively because of Marksman. I imagine that the QMS would have been similar - especially with the Cerberus Harrier (I figured that you could never go wrong with using the weapon the game pictured with each character in the kit selection menu).

[Ferocious Panda]

I'm thinking the hardest platinum solo would be with the quarian soldier

[LiL Reapur]

AustereLemur799 wrote...

Evil Mastered wrote...

AustereLemur799 wrote...

I'm the first to admit that I have little experience with the Marksman power and even less with the QMS, but why would you need Marksman with a weapon like the Saber when it's already so accurate?

It's mostly for the RoF boost, not the accuracy.

Fair enough

But is rate-of-fire really an issue in this game? How much are we talking? I'm a gold player and weapons like the Saber have never posed a problem. Generally, weapons with a slower rate of fire tend to be more powerful than faster weapons (e.g. faster spraying weapons like SMGs).

There's always a price to pay for power. You just need to adjust your gameplay to work to the strengths of the weapon.

I was never good enough to try out Marksman. I witnessed a lot of people utilise the TGS really effectively because of Marksman. I imagine that the QMS would have been similar - especially with the Cerberus Harrier (I figured that you could never go wrong with using the weapon the game pictured with each character in the kit selection menu).

Don't know at all what these paragraphs mean but all i can say is lemur plz..........

[AustereLemur799]

LiL Reapur wrote...

Don't know at all what these paragraphs mean but all i can say is lemur plz..........

You're not the first...

I'm trying to get out of here if only BW didn't have some silly rule about taking a week to delete accounts (and that's one week from one's last post).

[Evil]

AustereLemur799 wrote...

But is rate-of-fire really an issue in this game?

The thing about RoF boosts is that they act like a multiplicative boost to your damage output, whilst most other powers are only additive.

Put simply multiplicative>additive.

The only caveat is that you have to have a big enough ammo supply to compensate for the increased RoF, which is why a harrier quarksman isn't as good as he looks on paper.

[AustereLemur799]

Evil Mastered wrote...

AustereLemur799 wrote...

But is rate-of-fire really an issue in this game?

The thing about RoF boosts is that they act like a multiplicative boost to your damage output, whilst most other powers are only additive.

Put simply multiplicative>additive.

The only caveat is that you have to have a big enough ammo supply to compensate for the increased RoF, which is why a harrier quarksman isn't as good as he looks on paper.

MP is great for spamming powers if nothing else!

On a serious note; I think I understand what you mean - finally (you explain it much better than the stupid MP game advice did).

There's always an Achilles' heel or a spanner thrown in the works - something to ensure that each kit isn't all-powerful. The batarians have the potential to have an increased ammo supply, but they don't have the Marksman power to maximise the effectiveness of this.

As I said; I've never used the QMS. I imagine (and I've seen) that the Tsol is popular, especially since it has powers to fall back on - not to mention they can detonate ammo powers. The QMS, unfortunately, doesn't seem to have all that much going for it.

Other soldiers have powers, whether they're concussive shot (better than carnage!), flamer, some form of grenade.

[LemurFromTheId]

Evil Mastered wrote...

AustereLemur799 wrote...

I'm the first to admit that I have little experience with the Marksman power and even less with the QMS, but why would you need Marksman with a weapon like the Saber when it's already so accurate?

It's mostly for the RoF boost, not the accuracy.

The accuracy boost is just as important. When Saber is fired at full ROF only the first shot is accurate.

[ToaOrka]

The amount of people saying the Havoc is the worst when
kits like the Juggernaut and the Batarian exist makes me sad.

[Koenig888]

Aedolon wrote...

The accuracy boost is just as important. When Saber is fired at full ROF only the first shot is accurate.

Nope.  14 shots with the Saber at full RoF.

[LemurFromTheId]

Koenig888 wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

The accuracy boost is just as important. When Saber is fired at full ROF only the first shot is accurate.

Nope.  14 shots with the Saber at full RoF.

Does not match my experience.



Enough spread to miss a lot of headshots.

[Koenig888]

Aedolon wrote...

Does not match my experience.

Enough spread to miss a lot of headshots.

The spread in your pic is due to the inherent accuracy of the Saber and has nothing to do with RoF.  You will get the same spread whether you fire fast or slow if you don't manually adjust the aim or add accuracy bonuses.

Oh yeah, L2shoot 

[Supreme Leech]

I love my soldiers too much...but I don't use the quarian marksman.

[dudemacha]

Simply put marksmen is the kind of power which can make subpar smgs like tempest, locust into powerful enough weapons to compete in the plat dps race...and if you tac scan or pm it, you will be surprised by the rate at which you can kill things
Weak ARs like the CAR can be made effective......shotguns can be made into snipers and pirahna,raider can be made to eat crabs for starters

Modifié par Nik6454, 28 décembre 2013 - 07:34 .

[LemurFromTheId]

Koenig888 wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Does not match my experience.

Enough spread to miss a lot of headshots.

The spread in your pic is due to the inherent accuracy of the Saber and has nothing to do with RoF.  You will get the same spread whether you fire fast or slow if you don't manually adjust the aim or add accuracy bonuses.

That's just not true. If you wait after each shot for the reticle to return to the center, every shot will hit the same spot. If you fire at full ROF, you get spread.

[Nitrocuban]

QMS efffs things up pretty hard with the Indra.