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This whole mage-templar argument is anthropocentric. The shemlen mages care little or nothing for the elvhen. And they would never offer us aid.

So I've decided to align myself with the templars. I can better protect my people (the Dalish, INCLUDING our mages) by steering the templars away from them.

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I'd like to point out (again) that the leak didn't really came out in February and May. It came out after the PAX demo, as a screenshot of the post with the supposed "leak".
I'll not say that the leak is surely fake, but it seems strange that nobody knew about the leak before the PAX demo, when it should've been out for months, while every other leak I remember (not only from Bioware games) are known the moment they are posted on the internet.

Modifié par hhh89, 31 décembre 2013 - 05:52 .


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MasterScribe wrote...

This whole mage-templar argument is anthropocentric. The shemlen mages care little or nothing for the elvhen. And they would never offer us aid.

So I've decided to align myself with the templars. I can better protect my people (the Dalish, INCLUDING our mages) by steering the templars away from them.

Did you just refer to Elves in first person plural? Because if so, then I have some bad news for you..

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I highly doubt that the spilers are legit. Particularly becasue it is Mass Effect 3's plot just in a DA setting, and it seems to go against everyhting BioWare has said the game would be about. The "leak" says that you have to gather your forces and defeat the big bad, BioWare has specifically said that DA:I would be more about investigating and finding out who the big bad is, and then finding out how to take him down.

And you think we'll play the whole game without fighting the big bad at all? I think that's a strech. And while I don't think he knows the ending - I think he's just guessing - I think the rest is true. 

If you look at either the trailer or the walkthrough - someone pointed out that you can see already what seems to be the red fist symbol. A fist gripping some object or something.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Ah yes, it was the other "leak" that was earlier last year (the one with the pictures with giant scorpions and ****).


Oh, yes. Now I remember.

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I highly doubt that the spilers are legit. Particularly becasue it is Mass Effect 3's plot just in a DA setting, and it seems to go against everyhting BioWare has said the game would be about. The "leak" says that you have to gather your forces and defeat the big bad, BioWare has specifically said that DA:I would be more about investigating and finding out who the big bad is, and then finding out how to take him down.

And you think we'll play the whole game without fighting the big bad at all? I think that's a strech. And while I don't think he knows the ending - I think he's just guessing - I think the rest is true. 

If you look at either the trailer or the walkthrough - someone pointed out that you can see already what seems to be the red fist symbol. A fist gripping some object or something.

No no, not at all. But I think (hope)the game will be a lot more subtle about it, than the generic "gather your forces and go to war" approach.

And yes the "leak" mentions stuff like the Red Fist and GOlden Keys which are present in the trailers, but considering taht this leak only surfaced AFTER those trailers had already been released, then you have to question everything in that suppseod leak.

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MasterScribe wrote...

This whole mage-templar argument is anthropocentric. The shemlen mages care little or nothing for the elvhen. And they would never offer us aid.

So I've decided to align myself with the templars. I can better protect my people (the Dalish, INCLUDING our mages) by steering the templars away from them.


Hey, now. My shemlen mage cares for the elves!

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Youth4Ever wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
I highly doubt that the spilers are legit. Particularly becasue it is Mass Effect 3's plot just in a DA setting, and it seems to go against everyhting BioWare has said the game would be about. The "leak" says that you have to gather your forces and defeat the big bad, BioWare has specifically said that DA:I would be more about investigating and finding out who the big bad is, and then finding out how to take him down.

And you think we'll play the whole game without fighting the big bad at all? I think that's a strech. And while I don't think he knows the ending - I think he's just guessing - I think the rest is true. 

If you look at either the trailer or the walkthrough - someone pointed out that you can see already what seems to be the red fist symbol. A fist gripping some object or something.

No no, not at all. But I think (hope)the game will be a lot more subtle about it, than the generic "gather your forces and go to war" approach.

I hope so as well. We did the "gather forces and go to war" in DAO.

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Anyhoo, I am off duty now, so for me it is time to P-A-R-T-why? because i gotta!

See y'all in the new year!

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The "red fist" symbol is a monument you can restore (there is a quest in the demo about it). And the "gold keys" symbol is presen in the demo too....as a quest for opening a part of the western approach and gaining money (Dagna was involved, if I recall).
The three "allies" of the Inquisition mentioned in the leak basically rapresent three of the four type of keeps you can build (I don't recall if diplomacy and spy were the same thing in the demo).

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Ah yes, it was the other "leak" that was earlier last year (the one with the pictures with giant scorpions and ****).

This picture? I see the red templar monsters but did anyone at the time know they were templars?
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The three "allies" of the Inquisition mentioned in the leak basically rapresent three of the four type of keeps you can build (I don't recall if diplomacy and spy were the same thing in the demo).

They were military might, diplomacy, and spies. Plus, I thought we only had 3 types of keeps?

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Please tell me we get to see giant scorpions ridden by Tevinter mages in DAI!

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eluvianix wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
The three "allies" of the Inquisition mentioned in the leak basically rapresent three of the four type of keeps you can build (I don't recall if diplomacy and spy were the same thing in the demo).

They were military might, diplomacy, and spies. Plus, I thought we only had 3 types of keeps?


I remember that Darrah said 'commerce' too. Maybe it was together with diplomacy.

Modifié par hhh89, 31 décembre 2013 - 06:09 .


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eluvianix wrote...

Please tell me we get to see giant scorpions ridden by Tevinter mages in DAI!

Considering that Bioware hinted about having multiple types of mounts, I'd like to be able to ride a scorpion.

Modifié par hhh89, 31 décembre 2013 - 06:21 .


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hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Please tell me we get to see giant scorpions ridden by Tevinter mages in DAI!

Considering that Bioware hinted about having multiple types of mounts, I'd like to be able to mount a scorpion.


Heh. That sounds dirty.

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hhh89 wrote...
The "red fist" symbol is a monument you can restore (there is a quest in the demo about it). And the "gold keys" symbol is presen in the demo too....as a quest for opening a part of the western approach and gaining money (Dagna was involved, if I recall).

So do you think the leak has some credibility? It was posted in February.

The three "allies" of the Inquisition mentioned in the leak basically rapresent three of the four type of keeps you can build (I don't recall if diplomacy and spy were the same thing in the demo).

Diplomacy and spying are often the same thing. :P

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Please tell me we get to see giant scorpions ridden by Tevinter mages in DAI!

Considering that Bioware hinted about having multiple types of mounts, I'd like to be able to mount a scorpion.


Heh. That sounds dirty.

I know, but english isn't my native language and I didn't have at the moment a better phrase. Is "be able to use a giant scorpion as a mount" better?

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hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
The three "allies" of the Inquisition mentioned in the leak basically rapresent three of the four type of keeps you can build (I don't recall if diplomacy and spy were the same thing in the demo).

They were military might, diplomacy, and spies. Plus, I thought we only had 3 types of keeps?


I remember that Darrah said 'commerce' too. Maybe it was together with diplomacy.

Maybe you're right..wait. Just rewatched the PAX video. Darrah said espionage, commerce/diplomacy, and military might.

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hhh89 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Please tell me we get to see giant scorpions ridden by Tevinter mages in DAI!

Considering that Bioware hinted about having multiple types of mounts, I'd like to be able to mount a scorpion.


Heh. That sounds dirty.

I know, but english isn't my native language and I didn't have at the moment a better phrase. Is "be able to use a giant scorpion as a mount" better?

How about "ride a scorpion"? ;)

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And yes the "leak" mentions stuff like the Red Fist and GOlden Keys which are present in the trailers, but considering taht this leak only surfaced AFTER those trailers had already been released, then you have to question everything in that suppseod leak.

The leak is dated from back in February and May. You can agrue the accuracy of the timestamps - I suppose - but I don't think I see any reason to really. The other posts in the thread debating the leak after learning more concrete info about the game, their timestamps match up with the PAX Prime information release.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 31 décembre 2013 - 06:21 .


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@Youth4ever: I personally don't think the leak as many credibility. Expecially because it wasn't necessarily been posted in february. The first time people talked about it (not only there) was after the PAX demo, and there isn't a direct link to the post, but only a screenshot that could've been easily edited. Plus, the things in the leak seems to be taken from the demo and changed in some way (the three allied groups rapresents the three types of keeps, with two names taken by images of objects present in the demo and one mixing a background of one of the keep's choices and the name of a known DA organization); the political part of the leak (Ferelden and Orlais clashing) is already known since DA2. The main plot seems to be (to me anyway) to be ripped off from ME3.

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@eluvianix: thanks :).

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eluvianix wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

This whole mage-templar argument is anthropocentric. The shemlen mages care little or nothing for the elvhen. And they would never offer us aid.

So I've decided to align myself with the templars. I can better protect my people (the Dalish, INCLUDING our mages) by steering the templars away from them.


Hey, now. My shemlen mage cares for the elves!


If the shemlen mages had their way, elvhen would be nothing but slaves.

Modifié par MasterScribe, 31 décembre 2013 - 06:30 .


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MasterScribe wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

This whole mage-templar argument is anthropocentric. The shemlen mages care little or nothing for the elvhen. And they would never offer us aid.

So I've decided to align myself with the templars. I can better protect my people (the Dalish, INCLUDING our mages) by steering the templars away from them.


Hey, now. My shemlen mage cares for the elves!


If the shemlen mages had their way, elvhen would be nothing but slaves.

Maybe in Tevinter. But my Fereldan mages abhor slavery.