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[Veruin]

thetinyevil wrote...

No when I am wrong I will admit it you however will back peddle and rephase what you just said.

Veruin wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

it manifest between the ages of 6 and 12 sometimes younger. Remember Anders talking about how most mages were taken from their families so young that they don't remember their families. If you were taken from you family at pubrity you would remember. Wynne was like 7 or 8 when her magic manifested. Actaully anyone over the age 10 manifesting magic seems to be unusual.

I just remembered Wynne's case, so I'll retract what I said.

I didn't realize that I was backpedaling when I acknowledged I was wrong and retracted what I said.

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

guys can you stop before this thread will be closed by admins once again... 

It's not like these types of threads are rarer than unicorns.

Modifié par Veruin, 23 janvier 2014 - 08:37 .

[The Elder King]

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

Modifié par hhh89, 23 janvier 2014 - 08:37 .

[Hellion Rex]

thetinyevil wrote...
No when I am wrong I will admit it you however will back peddle and rephase what you just said.

Oh, please. Show me where I have ever back peddled or rephrased? You clearly don't know me at all.

[AresKeith]

thetinyevil wrote...

No when I am wrong I will admit it you however will back peddle and rephase what you just said.

:mellow::lol:

No you don't

[The Baconer]

There is no need to be upset.

[thetinyevil]

Veruin wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

No when I am wrong I will admit it you however will back peddle and rephase what you just said.

Veruin wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

it manifest between the ages of 6 and 12 sometimes younger. Remember Anders talking about how most mages were taken from their families so young that they don't remember their families. If you were taken from you family at pubrity you would remember. Wynne was like 7 or 8 when her magic manifested. Actaully anyone over the age 10 manifesting magic seems to be unusual.

I just remembered Wynne's case, so I'll retract what I said.

I didn't realize that I was backpedaling when I acknowledged I was wrong and retracted what I said.

You're right you did. I'm sorry. I was just getting a little angry.

[thetinyevil]

hhh89 wrote...

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

eluvianix doesn't sound pro-mage to me. He sounds more pro-circle/templar. Though I could be wrong.

Veuin, I may have misinterpered his posts.

[thetinyevil]

AresKeith wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

No when I am wrong I will admit it you however will back peddle and rephase what you just said.

:mellow::lol:

No you don't

Sorry to inform you but if I am wrong I do admit it. Er...up a few posts. When I am wrong I will admidt it. I won't like it but I will admit it.

Modifié par thetinyevil, 23 janvier 2014 - 08:50 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

lols anger again someone have anger issues...

[The Elder King]

thetinyevil wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

eluvianix doesn't sound pro-mage to me. He sounds more pro-circle/templar. Though I could be wrong.

Veuin, I may have misinterpered his posts.

He's not pro-templar at all. The fact that he thinks that mages are dangerous doesn't mean he's pro-templar.
And if with pro-Circle you meant the former Circle system, he doesn't support it. He might support a different Circle system, as many pro-mages do. And not only moderate pro-mages.

[Hellion Rex]

thetinyevil wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

eluvianix doesn't sound pro-mage to me. He sounds more pro-circle/templar. Though I could be wrong.

Hahahah, you thought I was a pro-templar? Good lord, I must be slipping. :lol:You clearly have not been here long.

[thetinyevil]

hhh89 wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

eluvianix doesn't sound pro-mage to me. He sounds more pro-circle/templar. Though I could be wrong.

Veuin, I may have misinterpered his posts.

He's not pro-templar at all. The fact that he thinks that mages are dangerous doesn't mean he's pro-templar.
And if with pro-Circle you meant the former Circle system, he doesn't support it. He might support a different Circle system, as many pro-mages do. And not only moderate pro-mages.

I know mages can be dangerous. Really dangerous and admit that. So I have misinterperted his posts and eluvianix I'm sorry. 

[thetinyevil]

eluvianix wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

@thetinyevil: you do know that eluvianix is pro-mage, right? And  Veruin isn't at all like you're saying.

eluvianix doesn't sound pro-mage to me. He sounds more pro-circle/templar. Though I could be wrong.

Hahahah, you thought I was a pro-templar? Good lord, I must be slipping. :lol:You clearly have not been here long.

No I haven't been here long. I'm sorry for being so ****y. I was just letting my anger get the better of me. I wrote my post right away instead of stepping back and calming down like I should have. I will try and work on that but I can't make any promises.

[Hellion Rex]

thetinyevil wrote...

I know mages can be dangerous. Really dangerous and admit that. So I have misinterperted his posts and eluvianix I'm sorry. 

No prob. We all get heated on here.

[thetinyevil]

Sooo getting back to the original question here. I can totally see this as a possible solution to the mage-templar war. It kinda reminds of the Legion's mission in ME2 either reprogram the heritics or kill them. I also can see bioware incorporating this into a future title.

The impact of this would be astornomical. There is the fact that mages are used as weapons for wars. They are the "big guns". Then as I already stated there are the Qunari. Without the mages the Qunari would have little problem taking over the rest of Thedus. I think one of the codexs it talks about the Qunari's invasion or attempted invasion, the black and white Chantries put their hate aside long enough to fight back the Qunari but the thing that kept the Qunari from winning was the mages who were the only thing that could counter the Quanir cannons.
-So without mages and only tranquil the Qunari would sweep across Theads like locus.

Then there are the hedeg witches and mages born outside the circle. With no one to train them and warn them about the dangers of the fade there would be a lot more abominations running around.

[TheKomandorShepard]

thetinyevil wrote...

Sooo getting back to the original question here. I can totally see this as a possible solution to the mage-templar war. It kinda reminds of the Legion's mission in ME2 either reprogram the heritics or kill them. I also can see bioware incorporating this into a future title.

The impact of this would be astornomical. There is the fact that mages are used as weapons for wars. They are the "big guns". Then as I already stated there are the Qunari. Without the mages the Qunari would have little problem taking over the rest of Thedus. I think one of the codexs it talks about the Qunari's invasion or attempted invasion, the black and white Chantries put their hate aside long enough to fight back the Qunari but the thing that kept the Qunari from winning was the mages who were the only thing that could counter the Quanir cannons.
-So without mages and only tranquil the Qunari would sweep across Theads like locus.

Then there are the hedeg witches and mages born outside the circle. With no one to train them and warn them about the dangers of the fade there would be a lot more abominations running around.

Not rly there is nowhere stated that thedas would fall without mages we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved... second i think otherwise mages cost to much as they proved they just love be victim of demon when their living conditions are low (hell even if they are high) and in war they won't have silk bedding and fresh food so they will quickly start turning into abomnations and then causing chaos and destruction in our ranks.Another matter that mages and well chantry are blocking technological development of thedas so thedas can catch up qunari we already have explosives. 

So ultimately thedas will be better without mages in my opinion at least that i can support with many da products that shows that.

[KC_Prototype]

Why?! Mages are amazing and can do amazing things.

[The Baconer]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved...

No they weren't.

[thetinyevil]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

Sooo getting back to the original question here. I can totally see this as a possible solution to the mage-templar war. It kinda reminds of the Legion's mission in ME2 either reprogram the heritics or kill them. I also can see bioware incorporating this into a future title.

The impact of this would be astornomical. There is the fact that mages are used as weapons for wars. They are the "big guns". Then as I already stated there are the Qunari. Without the mages the Qunari would have little problem taking over the rest of Thedus. I think one of the codexs it talks about the Qunari's invasion or attempted invasion, the black and white Chantries put their hate aside long enough to fight back the Qunari but the thing that kept the Qunari from winning was the mages who were the only thing that could counter the Quanir cannons.
-So without mages and only tranquil the Qunari would sweep across Theads like locus.

Then there are the hedeg witches and mages born outside the circle. With no one to train them and warn them about the dangers of the fade there would be a lot more abominations running around.

Not rly there is nowhere stated that thedas would fall without mages we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved... second i think otherwise mages cost to much as they proved they just love be victim of demon when their living conditions are low (hell even if they are high) and in war they won't have silk bedding and fresh food so they will quickly start turning into abomnations and then causing chaos and destruction in our ranks.Another matter that mages and well chantry are blocking technological development of thedas so thedas can catch up qunari we already have explosives. 

So ultimately thedas will be better without mages in my opinion at least that i can support with many da products that shows that.

First I couldn't find the codex so I can't comfirm what I said, though I am sure I seen it somewhere but until I do I will go with I was wrong.

Second mages don't like being victims of demons that is just stupid. And mages have been used in many wars throughout the history of Thedas after the formations of the Circles.

Third mages don't get silk sheets and we never see what they eat. They could eat like kings or they could very well be feed slop that has just enough nutritional value to keep them alive but weak. We don't know.

Fourth it is the Chantry that blocks technological development not the mages. Mages are hardly let out of the tower where they can actually do some good in the world. The Chantry sees some advancements in the same light as the mages. An affront or sin. Also in DD:A we seen that there have been explosives invented, by an insane dwarf(who was funny as hell) who later got chased by the Qunari because they didn't want anyone else beside them having explosives. So they are also blocking technological development for the rest of Thedas as well.

And lastly please for the love of God when you want to post something please write in on Word first. It will correct your grammer. Which needs a lot of help. Like I said before it takes me forever to decipher what you wrote.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The Baconer wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved...

No they weren't.

yep they were and both sides ended with many losses mages were just another unit and i can bet that many abomnations rounded around as well mage get heir ass kicked by averge warrior in series so no i don't think that mages were so ultimate advantage...

thetinyevil wrote...


First I couldn't find the codex
so I can't comfirm what I said, though I am sure I seen it somewhere but
until I do I will go with I was wrong.

Second mages don't like
being victims of demons that is just stupid. And mages have been used in
many wars throughout the history of Thedas after the formations of the
Circles.

Third mages don't get silk sheets and we never see what
they eat. They could eat like kings or they could very well be feed slop
that has just enough nutritional value to keep them alive but weak. We
don't know.

Fourth it is the Chantry that blocks technological
development not the mages. Mages are hardly let out of the tower where
they can actually do some good in the world. The Chantry sees some
advancements in the same light as the mages. An affront or sin. Also in
DD:A we seen that there have been explosives invented, by an insane
dwarf(who was funny as hell) who later got chased by the Qunari because
they didn't want anyone else beside them having explosives. So they are
also blocking technological development for the rest of Thedas as well.

And
lastly please for the love of God when you want to post something
please write in on Word first. It will correct your grammer. Which needs
a lot of help. Like I said before it takes me forever to decipher what
you wrote.

1.Codex said only that chantry answered on qunari cannons with magic and before they were kicking with equal loses and victories.
2-3.What i meant that mages just often end possessed and pro-mages make excuse because they were abused or had bad living conditions.We know from magi origins that mages live in luxury as well i renember from asunder that orlesians circle mages have haven (well at least when it comes about luxury) so yes they live in very good conditions
4.Yes i agree that chantry block technological
development but mages as well by providing magic like for example when humans want blow up something they use magic and in some others areas that same thats why dwarves found explosives and have better technology than humans because humans try satisfy their needs using magic not technology that can be superior to magic in any way. 

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:21 .

[The Elder King]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

The Baconer wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved...

No they weren't.

yep they were and both sides ended with many losses mages were just another unit and i can bet that many abomnations rounded around as well mage get heir ass kicked by averge warrior in series so no i don't think that mages were so ultimate advantage...

So we should trust your opinion (based on nothing) more than a source made by the creators of the IP. Got it.

[Veruin]

thetinyevil wrote...

Third mages don't get silk sheets and we never see what they eat. They could eat like kings or they could very well be feed slop that has just enough nutritional value to keep them alive but weak. We don't know.

Fourth it is the Chantry that blocks technological development not the mages. Mages are hardly let out of the tower where they can actually do some good in the world. The Chantry sees some advancements in the same light as the mages. An affront or sin. Also in DD:A we seen that there have been explosives invented, by an insane dwarf(who was funny as hell) who later got chased by the Qunari because they didn't want anyone else beside them having explosives. So they are also blocking technological development for the rest of Thedas as well.

And lastly please for the love of God when you want to post something please write in on Word first. It will correct your grammer. Which needs a lot of help. Like I said before it takes me forever to decipher what you wrote.

3.  Wynne mentions that the tranquil make ales with a variety of spices.  Going off that, I doubt they eat modestly like the chantry sisters do (Which according to Leliana is biscuits and lightly boiled/steam vegetables).  While it's unlikely they have silk sheets and candied grapes, you cannot deny that they are treated much better compared to the normal people of Thedas.  And for what reason?  Because of what they were born with.

4.  It's because anytime the mages are let out of the tower, someone screws them over.  See Anders.  They used to have exercises outside the tower, to get some sun and what not, but had to cancel them because Anders kept using it as an opportunity to escape.  (I will admit this is the Fereldan circle, which is usually considered the more lenient ones, but the point still stands.)

The chantry blocks magical developments, not technological.  Thedas lacks in technological advancements because they have become reliant on magic, unlike the dwarves and qunari.

Magic (Or the laziness of it) is what is stopping technological development in Thedas. (Why should I invent X when magic can do it already?)  Not the chantry.

5.  Good luck with that, he's been that way for months.

Modifié par Veruin, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:38 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

hhh89 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

The Baconer wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
we don't know what forces qunari have and before thedas was able fight with qunari before mages were involved...

No they weren't.

yep they were and both sides ended with many losses mages were just another unit and i can bet that many abomnations rounded around as well mage get heir ass kicked by averge warrior in series so no i don't think that mages were so ultimate advantage...

So we should trust your opinion (based on nothing) more than a source made by the creators of the IP. Got it.

based on nothing well if games that prove that mages aren't that powerful in battle (they lost most of their fights...) are nothing yes... as far i renember codex entries are opinion of peoples in-universe not world of god...

besides i nowhere stated that you have to or should trust me so well it is up to you...

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:27 .

[The Baconer]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
yep they were and both sides ended with many losses

The battle you are referring to took place at Marnas Pell, which is a Tevinter city. Before the Chantry responded with exalted marches and the circle of magi, the Qunari had advanced as far south as the Free Marches.

Now, I realize that being wrong is your natural condition, but you could at least try reading the available literature instead of citing your own personal fanfiction.

[Hellion Rex]

thetinyevil wrote...
And lastly please for the love of God when you want to post something please write in on Word first. It will correct your grammer. Which needs a lot of help. Like I said before it takes me forever to decipher what you wrote.

Bear in mind that there is an obvious language barrier at work here.