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[dragonflight288]

MisterJB wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

^Oops, didn't mean to do that. Meant to put:
"It's better than sending people who can do absolutely nothing to them in the Fade.

Hmmm? The Fade is a realm of ideas. If someone imagines he has a sword and shield, then he has which can then be used to kill demons.

If you have the will to create them while in the Fade, and believe they remain real long enough to wield them. If you doubt your capability or even the capacity to creating something from nothing in the Fade, it won't happen. 

At least, that's what I got from Mouse and Valor when discussing his weapons. 

[The Baconer]

dragonflight288 wrote...
If the world suddenly had no mages, or all mages were made tranquil and cut off from the Fade, aside from no more Grey Wardens to fight a blight or mages to combat Qunari technology, it's not unreasonable to think that demons who want to experience the mortal world would turn their attention to the mundanes they had previously ignored in favor of the mages.

I don't think it's that simple. From what we know, for a spirit or demon to move within the planes requires blood, Lyrium, or a living conduit in the form of a mage. Outside of areas where the Veil has been weakened or sundered, they cannot simply possess a mundane's body. If demons are desparate and/or simple enough to trap themselves in corpses and inanimate objects when they can, mundane possession would not be as rare of an occurance as it is if it were possible to do so through dreams.

[dragonflight288]

The Baconer wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...
If the world suddenly had no mages, or all mages were made tranquil and cut off from the Fade, aside from no more Grey Wardens to fight a blight or mages to combat Qunari technology, it's not unreasonable to think that demons who want to experience the mortal world would turn their attention to the mundanes they had previously ignored in favor of the mages.

I don't think it's that simple. From what we know, for a spirit or demon to move within the planes requires blood, Lyrium, or a living conduit in the form of a mage. Outside of areas where the Veil has been weakened or sundered, they cannot simply possess a mundane's body. If demons are desparate and/or simple enough to trap themselves in corpses and inanimate objects when they can, mundane possession would not be as rare of an occurance as it is if it were possible to do so through dreams.

Or they need a link, probably from a dream-deal like what Connor did with a Desire Demon, and then control their host from the Fade itself. 

[SgtSteel91]

Yeah, aren't non-underground-dwarven people still connected to the Fade when they dream, just that they aren't aware during it? I imagine that a Demon could try to get into the mortal realm through the dreams of non-mages, but it may be harder.

Modifié par SgtSteel91, 25 janvier 2014 - 04:59 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

I highly doubt that demon can posses non-mage as non-mage can't even make contact with demon and vice versa when demon is in fade.Aveline even said that mages have to be superhumans if they have face demon every day of their lifes what means that something non-mages never experience.

Besides most mages already are in circle what would make death sentence for demon and it would be wiser seek for king if they could posses non-mage outside fade they aren't fussy. they will take no-mage when they can.

[Magdalena11]

^Wilmud.

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I highly doubt that demon can posses non-mage as non-mage can't even make contact with demon and vice versa when demon is in fade.Aveline even said that mages have to be superhumans if they have face demon every day of their lifes what means that something non-mages never experience.

Besides most mages already are in circle what would make death sentence for demon and it would be wiser seek for king if they could posses non-mage outside fade they aren't fussy. they will take no-mage when they can.

please go play the games again you have messed a few things. also and I can't say this enough read the codex

[TheKomandorShepard]

Magdalena11 wrote...

^Wilmud.

You man wilmod he was possesed thanks to blood magic as demon was placed in him not by making contact with demon... He was possesed becuase of Tarohne ritual;).So i never stated that non-mages can't be possesed but demons can do that when they crossed veil.

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I
highly doubt that demon can posses non-mage as non-mage can't even make
contact with demon and vice versa when demon is in fade.Aveline even
said that mages have to be superhumans if they have face demon every day
of their lifes what means that something non-mages never experience.

Besides
most mages already are in circle what would make death sentence for
demon and it would be wiser seek for king if they could posses non-mage
outside fade they aren't fussy. they will take no-mage when they can.

please go play the games again you have messed a few things. also and I can't say this enough read the codex

where i messed few things? And in codex there is nothing about possesion outside possesion of mages and bodies (that is after demon crosses veil).

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 25 janvier 2014 - 05:39 .

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Magdalena11 wrote...

^Wilmud.

You man wilmod he was possesed due blood magic as demon was placed in him not by making contact with demon... He was possesed becuase of Tarohne ritual;)

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I
highly doubt that demon can posses non-mage as non-mage can't even make
contact with demon and vice versa when demon is in fade.Aveline even
said that mages have to be superhumans if they have face demon every day
of their lifes what means that something non-mages never experience.

Besides
most mages already are in circle what would make death sentence for
demon and it would be wiser seek for king if they could posses non-mage
outside fade they aren't fussy. they will take no-mage when they can.

please go play the games again you have messed a few things. also and I can't say this enough read the codex

where i messed few things? And in codex there is nothing about possesion outside possesion of mages and bodies (that is after demon crosses veil).

YESS!!!  THERE IS do you need me to find it for you? and did you forget the enemie in da: o called: possessed templar.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...

YESS!!!  THERE IS do you need me to find it for you? and did you forget the enemie in da: o called: possessed templar.

You mean after demons were summoned to thedas , and i guess that we are talking about circle tower quest?As i said in wilmod case after demon crossed veil he can possess mages , non-mages , tress or corpses.Uldred summoned pride demon that possesed him and later he started summon more demons so it makes sense. Initself non-mage can't contact with demon or spirit without mage (or magic) help if spirit or demon are still in fade.   

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

YESS!!!  THERE IS do you need me to find it for you? and did you forget the enemie in da: o called: possessed templar.

You mean after demons were summoned to thedas , and i guess that we are talking about circle tower quest?As i said in wilmod case after demon crossed veil he can possess mages , non-mages , tress or corpses.Uldred summoned pride demon that possesed him and later he started summon more demons so it makes sense. Initself non-mage can't contact with demon or spirit without mage (or magic) help if spirit or demon are still in fade.   

please I'm begging you go play the game, at least go do broken circle again and read the codex.

p.s. on a totally unrelated note anyone know where I can find a gif of theon greyjoy from last season, I got an idea.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

YESS!!!  THERE IS do you need me to find it for you? and did you forget the enemie in da: o called: possessed templar.

You mean after demons were summoned to thedas , and i guess that we are talking about circle tower quest?As i said in wilmod case after demon crossed veil he can possess mages , non-mages , tress or corpses.Uldred summoned pride demon that possesed him and later he started summon more demons so it makes sense. Initself non-mage can't contact with demon or spirit without mage (or magic) help if spirit or demon are still in fade.   

please I'm begging you go play the game, at least go do broken circle again and read the codex.

p.s. on a totally unrelated note anyone know where I can find a gif of theon greyjoy from last season, I got an idea.

ekhm  smoking a lot today don't ya?

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

YESS!!!  THERE IS do you need me to find it for you? and did you forget the enemie in da: o called: possessed templar.

You mean after demons were summoned to thedas , and i guess that we are talking about circle tower quest?As i said in wilmod case after demon crossed veil he can possess mages , non-mages , tress or corpses.Uldred summoned pride demon that possesed him and later he started summon more demons so it makes sense. Initself non-mage can't contact with demon or spirit without mage (or magic) help if spirit or demon are still in fade.   

please I'm begging you go play the game, at least go do broken circle again and read the codex.

p.s. on a totally unrelated note anyone know where I can find a gif of theon greyjoy from last season, I got an idea.

ekhm  smoking a lot today don't ya?

oh good now go play the fade part again, please.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...



oh good now go play the fade part again, please.

ok... and what is with fade niall , demons our companions and?

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



oh good now go play the fade part again, please.

ok... and what is with fade niall , demons our companions and?

go play I have faith you'll figure it out.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



oh good now go play the fade part again, please.

ok... and what is with fade niall , demons our companions and?

go play I have faith you'll figure it out.

nah thanks i won't go through most boring part of the game because that says guy who don't want even make point. 

[n7stormrunner]

[quote]TheKomandorShepard wrote...


go play I have faith you'll figure it out.

[/quote]

nah thanks i won't go through most boring part of the game because that says guy who don't want even make point. 

[/quote]

well thats what I get for having faith...

I would tell you but you'ld just ignore it because people always do. I'm telling how to get it on your own because that works better, not much better but better.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...



well thats what I get for having faith...

I would tell you but you'ld just ignore it because people always do. I'm telling how to get it on your own because that works better, not much better but better.

get used to it if you want have faith:whistle:

Anyway i won't do anything in dark you already make few mistakes like with "possesed" templars so well it would only probably annoyed me as another mistake.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 25 janvier 2014 - 06:53 .

[KaiserShep]

On the subject of being made tranquil, I'd much rather be dead than be magically lobotomized.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 25 janvier 2014 - 06:41 .

[n7stormrunner]

[quote]TheKomandorShepard wrote...

[quote]n7stormrunner wrote...

[quote]TheKomandorShepard wrote...


go play I have faith you'll figure it out.

[/quote]

nah thanks i won't go through most boring part of the game because that says guy who don't want even make point. 

[/quote]

well thats what I get for having faith...

I would tell you but you'ld just ignore it because people always do. I'm telling how to get it on your own because that works better, not much better but better.

[/quote]

get used to it if you want have faith:whistle:

Anyway i won't do anything in dark you already make few mistakes like with "possesed" templars so well it would only probably annoyed me as another mistake.


[/quote]

mistake? you and me have very different ideas on what that word means. but I have a feeling thats not the only thing we have different ideas on.

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...



mistake? you and me have very different ideas on what that word means. but I have a feeling thats not the only thing we have different ideas on.

well you pointed that im wrong in that non-mages can't be possesed when demon is still in the fade and you pointed "possesed" templars as argument that im wrong in that matter... so well you were wrong

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



mistake? you and me have very different ideas on what that word means. but I have a feeling thats not the only thing we have different ideas on.

well you pointed that im wrong in that non-mages can't be possesed when demon is still in the fade and you pointed "possesed" templars as argument that im wrong in that matter... so well you were wrong

... so you only do broken circle with an all mage party then?

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



mistake? you and me have very different ideas on what that word means. but I have a feeling thats not the only thing we have different ideas on.

well you pointed that im wrong in that non-mages can't be possesed when demon is still in the fade and you pointed "possesed" templars as argument that im wrong in that matter... so well you were wrong

... so you only do broken circle with an all mage party then?

no i did that with every companion except with a dog.

[n7stormrunner]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



mistake? you and me have very different ideas on what that word means. but I have a feeling thats not the only thing we have different ideas on.

well you pointed that im wrong in that non-mages can't be possesed when demon is still in the fade and you pointed "possesed" templars as argument that im wrong in that matter... so well you were wrong

... so you only do broken circle with an all mage party then?

no i did that with every companion except with a dog.

reallly?

[TheKomandorShepard]

n7stormrunner wrote...



reallly?

eee yes.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 25 janvier 2014 - 07:29 .