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Making all mages tranquil, Ser Alrik's "Tranquil Solution"


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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



reallly?


:? eee yes.


well you manged to do something the tvtropes mindscrew page and everything in it listed that I've seen/read failed to do...

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n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



reallly?


:? eee yes.


well you manged to do something the tvtropes mindscrew page and everything in it listed that I've seen/read failed to do...


Wha? :huh:

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...



reallly?


:? eee yes.


well you manged to do something the tvtropes mindscrew page and everything in it listed that I've seen/read failed to do...


Wha? :huh:


exactly

#579
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n7stormrunner wrote...



exactly


Now im sure that you had took something go to sleep and never take it again for your own good.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

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exactly


Now im sure that you had took something go to sleep and never take it again for your own good.


no too poor. it's actually kind sad I can say that and not be lieing. besides my post makes perfect sense.

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As some as you know, my family and I practice a pagan religion and I am a Celtic Witch. As recently as the 1990's I have had real death threats just because I existed. They didn't care what type of person I was, they didn't care my family has been this way for centuries, they didn't care about the fact that I give to their charities or that I have never once tried to "recruit" someone to my faith but the very fact that I existed with that label made them want to hurt me.

I just can't imagine a place like Thedas where Mages can't easily hide who they are, they would be targets for sure, just because they existed. Sad.


The difference of course, is that desite how you call yourself, you're not a real witch.

Your existence doesn't threaten anyone in reality. You cannot summon demons, take over minds or destroy entire towns at a whim. Thus, who you are does not really affect the survival of other people, which is not at all like the mages of Thedas.

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n7stormrunner wrote...

... so you only do broken circle with an all mage party then?

If you are referring to the fact that the party gets trapped by a sloth demon, I don't see where you are going. What a demon does when he is already out of the Fade has nothing to do with the general rules of crossing the Fade, under which posession falls.

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Connor is just a damn kid. He doesn't know any better. How can you possibly blame him for making a deal with a demon when his parents are selfishly holding him back from getting adequate amount of education for wielding magic and being able to resist demonic tempations? The fact that they're willing to snatch up any mage from the streets to tutor their son in secrecy shows how much of irrrsponsible parents they are. They both deserve to be executed, especially after what happen to their city. Don't the love ones who became a victim deserve justice?


And again it wasn't isolde who caused destruction only connor remove isolde and connor would cause it anyway.And you say that if he ended in circle that wouldn't happen and yet look on circle and what happened he would just ended as another snack for demon.Simple mages are unpredictable and can turn into abomnation at every moment of their lifes as was that proven many times.But unstable nuclear bomb is real problem not dumb owner who is in love with it so you need remove first and for best both to be safe. 


I'm finding your post to be rather hilarious. I can't fathom the concept of blaming a child over what a mother did and her decisions to not only do the right thing but to do it within boundry of the law. I may not agree with what the Chantry has done to the mages, but the Circle is 100% nessassary. Connor is a prime example of why the Circle must exist in the first place. An unstable mage can easily become an unstable nuclear bomb.

If Connor wand up in the Circle Knight-Commander Greagoir and First Enchanter Irving would both agree to make Connor tranquil if he fails to improve and becomes vulnerable to deomonic posession. While slaughtering up a child sounds gruesome... If Connor fails his Harrowing the Templar's would be force to slain him in a safe enviorment where he can't harm innocent civilians.

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hhh89 wrote...

Yeah, Eamon didn't know. Isolde feared that Eamon would've sent his son to the Circle. Which he did, and would've likely done before his illness.


That fear alone cost many people their lives. She deserve to be sent to Aeonar for what she did to her city.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Yeah, Eamon didn't know. Isolde feared that Eamon would've sent his son to the Circle. Which he did, and would've likely done before his illness.


That fear alone cost many people their lives. She deserve to be sent to Aeonar for what she did to her city.

My point was that Eamon didn't know anything because Isolde hided Connor's nature, and he'd have sent him to the Circle if he knew. I agree that Isolde is the main responsible of what happened in Redcliffe.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

I'm finding your post to be rather hilarious. I can't fathom the concept of blaming a child over what a mother did and her decisions to not only do the right thing but to do it within boundry of the law. I may not agree with what the Chantry has done to the mages, but the Circle is 100% nessassary. Connor is a prime example of why the Circle must exist in the first place. An unstable mage can easily become an unstable nuclear bomb.

If Connor wand up in the Circle Knight-Commander Greagoir and First Enchanter Irving would both agree to make Connor tranquil if he fails to improve and becomes vulnerable to deomonic posession. While slaughtering up a child sounds gruesome... If Connor fails his Harrowing the Templar's would be force to slain him in a safe enviorment where he can't harm innocent civilians.




You are welcome :D . And again as i said it was connor who caused destruction isolde may be idiot and others part in it ultimately isolde or not connor would end that same way (even if isolde would give him to the circle ,circle was anyway slained by demons he would end as one of them).And again mage is unstable because peoples are unstable so human + possesion = unstable nuclar bomb for entire life add such excuses like depression , shock , be attacked. As we are proven circle mages aren't very good with dealing with demons as well becuase most of them ended as abomnations anyway.
So point is that isolde is just convenient excuse for pro-mages to try justify connor (heh as well many other mages) but truth is that there will be always excuse to end as abomnation and circles show it as well mages outside.

and with this we can see behavior of many mages psycho manic :devil:

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 25 janvier 2014 - 09:43 .


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its Isolde fault that after Iowan poison Eamon and was inprison, Connor wanted to save his father and find Iowan blood magic books and with them summon deamon who do all sh*t in Redcliff

Connor as other any mage childrens can never do such sh*t by themselfs(this is imposible for them) and Connor will never summon deamon without blood magic books what he would never have without Iowan and if someone just pay attention to what Connor do after Iowan was inprison

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Dark Korsar wrote...

its Isolde fault that after Iowan poison Eamon and was inprison, Connor wanted to save his father and find Iowan blood magic books and with them summon deamon who do all sh*t in Redcliff

Connor as other any mage childrens can never do such sh*t by themselfs(this is imposible for them) and Connor will never summon deamon without blood magic books what he would never have without Iowan and if someone just pay attention to what Connor do after Iowan was inprison


Do i have to count mages that turned into abomnation without book?All mage need to turn into abomnation is moment of weakness (and we don't have to agree that humans have a lot of them i hope).Now you want push everything on isolde but isolde is just and idiot without having nuclear bomb she is harmless so connor was unstable nuclear bomb and isolde just an idiot.If you seek another example meredith sister who turned into abomnation.

As i said you can justify him as everyone else but with that you won't stand alive for long when dealing with mages , what matters is effectiveness.Ultimately we can aruge how connor was poor and innocent when he slaughtering entire castle and village but it is better prevent such cases and as i said i have idea for great system dealing with mages that will solve such problems.       

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I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.

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Veruin wrote...

I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.


I already have my Templar list. Shall I create a new one?

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Veruin wrote...

I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.


if i hurted your feelings your problem but there is no reason to cry :whistle:

gosh if you have such problems just don't read my posts problem gone no one forces you it is obvious that you have pain somewhere... 
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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Veruin wrote...

I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.


if i hurted your feelings your problem but there is no reason to cry :whistle:

The only one that should be crying is your language teacher. Crying because even though they told you to stop using fallacies, you haven't. 

gosh if you have such problems just don't read my posts problem gone no one forces you it is obvious that you have pain somewhere... 
:devil:

What does this mean, especially since the post in question was talking about ignoring you to begin with? 

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Br3ad wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Veruin wrote...

I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.


if i hurted your feelings your problem but there is no reason to cry :whistle:

The only one that should be crying is your language teacher. Crying because even though they told you to stop using fallacies, you haven't. 

gosh if you have such problems just don't read my posts problem gone no one forces you it is obvious that you have pain somewhere... 
:devil:

What does this mean, especially since the post in question was talking about ignoring you to begin with? 


Oh fallacies maybe you will tell me when mr smart?

Yes he was ignoring me by wrriting about me good strategy mr smart as i said if he have headache he/she shouldn't just read that... 

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Br3ad wrote...

What does this mean, especially since the post in question was talking about ignoring you to begin with? 


The funny part is that he thinks the list only includes him.

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I already have my Templar list. Shall I create a new one?


All submissions are welcome and shall be reviewed.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Now you want push everything on isolde but isolde is just and idiot without having nuclear bomb she is harmless

lulz. 

so connor was unstable nuclear bomb and isolde just an idiot.If you seek another example meredith sister who turned into abomnation.

Meredith's sister turned out that way because no one was able to teach her, and Connor that way because no one took him to the proper place to learn of his limitations and to resist demons. It had nothing to do with their desire to be abominations or the inevitability of such.

As i said you can justify him as everyone else but with that you won't stand alive for long when dealing with mages , what matters is effectiveness.

What does this even mean?

Ultimately we can aruge how connor was poor and innocent when he slaughtering entire castle and village but it is better prevent such cases and as i said i have idea for great system dealing with mages that will solve such problems.       

We should also lobotomize every child born from now on, because they might be criminals. At least, that is the logic I'm reading here. Or you know, we can take the other precautions and deal with the situation as time goes on. I believe in Circles, I however do not believe in making everyone into...this...for no reason. It is all about the level of control, not the possibility of having none. 

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Veruin wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What does this mean, especially since the post in question was talking about ignoring you to begin with? 


The funny part is that he thinks the list only includes him.

eluvianix wrote...

I already have my Templar list. Shall I create a new one?


All submissions are welcome and shall be reviewed.


oh when i said that but it is obvious that your post was adressed towards me and even don't try deny

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Seriously have you heard her voice, harmless? Should have stopped reading there. 

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Veruin wrote...

All submissions are welcome and shall be reviewed.

Shall I send the first draft to the Templar coffee house?

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

oh when i said that but it is obvious that your post was adressed towards me and even don't try deny


Veruin wrote...

I think we should publish our list of "BSN users to ignore" soon, just to save people some headaches.


I don't know how well your english is, but that little "s" at the end of "users" means it's plural.  As in more than one.  But, yes, you certainly are one.

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Shall I send the first draft to the Templar coffee house? 


Send a copy to my shack and the coffee house.  I don't go there since they never keep it clean.

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Br3ad wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Now you want push everything on isolde but isolde is just and idiot without having nuclear bomb she is harmless

lulz. 

so connor was unstable nuclear bomb and isolde just an idiot.If you seek another example meredith sister who turned into abomnation.

Meredith's sister turned out that way because no one was able to teach her, and Connor that way because no one took him to the proper place to learn of his limitations and to resist demons. It had nothing to do with their desire to be abominations or the inevitability of such.

As i said you can justify him as everyone else but with that you won't stand alive for long when dealing with mages , what matters is effectiveness.

What does this even mean?

Ultimately we can aruge how connor was poor and innocent when he slaughtering entire castle and village but it is better prevent such cases and as i said i have idea for great system dealing with mages that will solve such problems.       

We should also lobotomize every child born from now on, because they might be criminals. At least, that is the logic I'm reading here. Or you know, we can take the other precautions and deal with the situation as time goes on. I believe in Circles, I however do not believe in making everyone into...this...for no reason. It is all about the level of control, not the possibility of having none. 


1.isolde was idiot that get nuclear bomb as i said connor was problem because he was unstable nuclear bomb not isolde. 
2.I never said that mage have desire to be abomnation... that first second no matter every mage can be possesed trained , untrained , powerfull ,weak , good or bad trening help but still they are vulnerable (do i even have point adult mages possesed?). My point is that there will be always excuses for mage to end as abomnation "because i didn't had trening" , "because i wanted power" or because "i wanted save someone i loved" .
3.It mean that i don't care excuses or reasons that mages have when they turned into abomnation fact is they are turning into them and we have a lot of them.
4.I see you joned into discussions in dark because you have no point what i want to do.But ok i don't want tranquil mages i want eliminate them , and comparing mage to criminals is cheap why because most criminals are danger for individuals or in worse cases local scale not on national scale or even world scale.Most criminals are in that for themselves for money they won't kill everyone on their path or burn cities.Abomnation is a way powerful than normal person and don't care abut any restrictions like law or even own morality they just kill and destroy.There is as reason why dangerous animals are in cages and mages can cause far more damage than animals.

So it is not you may be crimincal it is what you can do when you are one...  

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