thetinyevil wrote...
Slight spoiler for Asunder:
Remembering Asunder and the cure for Tranquility is being touched by a being of the fade, what is going to happen with the tare in the fade. So since the fade is leaking into the real world, would that cure the tranquil?
That is a really good question. Probably go back to the original option. Killing them.dragonflight288 wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
Slight spoiler for Asunder:
Remembering Asunder and the cure for Tranquility is being touched by a being of the fade, what is going to happen with the tare in the fade. So since the fade is leaking into the real world, would that cure the tranquil?
Hmmm....possibly.
I wonder what the Circle system would do about weak-willed mages or mages who wish to be tranquil if the Rite of Tranquility is no longer a viable option.
dragonflight288 wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
Slight spoiler for Asunder:
Remembering Asunder and the cure for Tranquility is being touched by a being of the fade, what is going to happen with the tare in the fade. So since the fade is leaking into the real world, would that cure the tranquil?
Hmmm....possibly.
I wonder what the Circle system would do about weak-willed mages or mages who wish to be tranquil if the Rite of Tranquility is no longer a viable option.
Modifié par SgtSteel91, 30 janvier 2014 - 01:00 .
thetinyevil wrote...
Not if they are running all over the place. But I wasn't talking just about the demons and spirits I was talking about the raw power of the fade which is not just in the fade anymore.
Modifié par eluvianix, 30 janvier 2014 - 01:13 .
From the demo it seems that there is more then just one tear but lots of them. I think the Red-Templars are also using the fade tears to get around, though I could have just heard wrong.eluvianix wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
Not if they are running all over the place. But I wasn't talking just about the demons and spirits I was talking about the raw power of the fade which is not just in the fade anymore.
I would think it would take a Tranquil being in proximity to the Fade tear itself. Just the Veil shredding wouldn't outright fix that problem.
They would be pissed off unstable and looking for revenge. Scary thought.eluvianix wrote...
Food for thought: If Tranquil do start becoming self-aware again what happens to those Tranquil who had been cut off for actual practice of blood magic and other misdeeds? They would get their powers back, no? And if those Tranquil had been previously serving the Chantry...
Yes, I remember seeing that in the demo. I saw a few small rifts, but if you looked in the distance at one point, I could see that giant a** Veil rip that was probably the one that ripped in the trailer. As for the Red Templars, I am hesitant to say they are using the tears for teleportation, since that type of magic seems to beyond the ken of even modern mages. But I could theoretically seeing a person doing this, but once in the Fade, they would have to know which tear back into the mortal world would lead to which destination.thetinyevil wrote...
From the demo it seems that there is more then just one tear but lots of them. I think the Red-Templars are also using the fade tears to get around, though I could have just heard wrong.eluvianix wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
Not if they are running all over the place. But I wasn't talking just about the demons and spirits I was talking about the raw power of the fade which is not just in the fade anymore.
I would think it would take a Tranquil being in proximity to the Fade tear itself. Just the Veil shredding wouldn't outright fix that problem.
thetinyevil wrote...
They would be pissed off unstable and looking for revenge. Scary thought.eluvianix wrote...
Food for thought: If Tranquil do start becoming self-aware again what happens to those Tranquil who had been cut off for actual practice of blood magic and other misdeeds? They would get their powers back, no? And if those Tranquil had been previously serving the Chantry...
Yeah. It doesn't bode well at all. A bunch of sociopathic, psychopaths, that are extremely emotionally and mentally unstable and looking to get back at the world. Well there are my nightmares for the next month.eluvianix wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
They would be pissed off unstable and looking for revenge. Scary thought.eluvianix wrote...
Food for thought: If Tranquil do start becoming self-aware again what happens to those Tranquil who had been cut off for actual practice of blood magic and other misdeeds? They would get their powers back, no? And if those Tranquil had been previously serving the Chantry...
Very scary. I hate Tranquility as a practice, but there are certainly some mages in Thedas who probably deserved it. And now that they could be potentially freed...it doesn't bode well.
Modifié par thetinyevil, 30 janvier 2014 - 01:26 .
eluvianix wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
They would be pissed off unstable and looking for revenge. Scary thought.eluvianix wrote...
Food for thought: If Tranquil do start becoming self-aware again what happens to those Tranquil who had been cut off for actual practice of blood magic and other misdeeds? They would get their powers back, no? And if those Tranquil had been previously serving the Chantry...
Very scary. I hate Tranquility as a practice, but there are certainly some mages in Thedas who probably deserved it. And now that they could be potentially freed...it doesn't bode well.
Lord Raijin wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
thetinyevil wrote...
They would be pissed off unstable and looking for revenge. Scary thought.eluvianix wrote...
Food for thought: If Tranquil do start becoming self-aware again what happens to those Tranquil who had been cut off for actual practice of blood magic and other misdeeds? They would get their powers back, no? And if those Tranquil had been previously serving the Chantry...
Very scary. I hate Tranquility as a practice, but there are certainly some mages in Thedas who probably deserved it. And now that they could be potentially freed...it doesn't bode well.
The Rite of Tranqulity is a temporary fix to a much greater problem. Even if the Divine did not send Wynne off to complete her mission to find the cure for R.O.T theirs going to be someone like Jaken, who are driven by anger to find a cure, and then take an advantage of their discovery to build up their own army of destruction.
Even if the cured tranquil can't wield magic they can always pick up an enchanted sword
I agree with Adrian's solution... Death. Death is a permanent solution for dealing with the weak and the most dangerous.
We have no clue about Lady Harimann. I never saw anything to indicate that she made a deal to actually gain magic. But mages still represent the highest danger in regards to possession. A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
Right, and considering all the veil tears that would be in place, the demons aren't going to be targeting just mages as they're wandering around Thedas and can come across any mundane.
We have seen Sophia Dryden possessed. We saw Lady Herriman make a deal with a Desire Demon and gained blood magic abilities as a result, we have seen possessed templars and so on. With all these demons wandering around, the mages are no longer the only ones in the most danger.
For this plan to work, you would now have to kill all weak or possibly dangerous mundanes as well as all mages. So in essence, the majority of all life.
dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
eluvianix wrote...
A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.
The Baconer wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.
No, that also requires power on the demon's part.
Modifié par eluvianix, 30 janvier 2014 - 07:17 .
Fiona Harimann said that there is no magic in their blood which was a point of pride for their family. So she as a mundane that made a deal with a demon trapped outside the fade.eluvianix wrote...
We have no clue about Lady Harimann. I never saw anything to indicate that she made a deal to actually gain magic. But mages still represent the highest danger in regards to possession. A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
Right, and considering all the veil tears that would be in place, the demons aren't going to be targeting just mages as they're wandering around Thedas and can come across any mundane.
We have seen Sophia Dryden possessed. We saw Lady Herriman make a deal with a Desire Demon and gained blood magic abilities as a result, we have seen possessed templars and so on. With all these demons wandering around, the mages are no longer the only ones in the most danger.
For this plan to work, you would now have to kill all weak or possibly dangerous mundanes as well as all mages. So in essence, the majority of all life.
eluvianix wrote...
A demon or spirit inside of a mage's body gives extremely supercharged powers. Case in point, Wynne, Anders, Connor.
I find Harimann's situation a big interesting. A demon making mages seems out of the ordinary.thetinyevil wrote...
Fiona Harimann said that there is no magic in their blood which was a point of pride for their family. So she as a mundane that made a deal with a demon trapped outside the fade.eluvianix wrote...
We have no clue about Lady Harimann. I never saw anything to indicate that she made a deal to actually gain magic. But mages still represent the highest danger in regards to possession. A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
Right, and considering all the veil tears that would be in place, the demons aren't going to be targeting just mages as they're wandering around Thedas and can come across any mundane.
We have seen Sophia Dryden possessed. We saw Lady Herriman make a deal with a Desire Demon and gained blood magic abilities as a result, we have seen possessed templars and so on. With all these demons wandering around, the mages are no longer the only ones in the most danger.
For this plan to work, you would now have to kill all weak or possibly dangerous mundanes as well as all mages. So in essence, the majority of all life.
Sophia Dryden was a pain in the ass to kill, worse than the damn demons we had to kill in order to close the fade tears.
That's a gameplay limitation versus lore abominations.The Baconer wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
A demon or spirit inside of a mage's body gives extremely supercharged powers. Case in point, Wynne, Anders, Connor.
All powerful and intelligent entities in each case. Do you think the situation at Redcliffe would have been the same if Connor had been possessed by some slobbering, mindless demon of hunger or rage? Did all the generically-named abominations in the circle tower seem supercharged to you?
dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
Right, and considering all the veil tears that would be in place, the demons aren't going to be targeting just mages as they're wandering around Thedas and can come across any mundane.
We have seen Sophia Dryden possessed. We saw Lady Herriman make a deal with a Desire Demon and gained blood magic abilities as a result, we have seen possessed templars and so on. With all these demons wandering around, the mages are no longer the only ones in the most danger.
For this plan to work, you would now have to kill all weak or possibly dangerous mundanes as well as all mages. So in essence, the majority of all life.
Well if a demon could raise an army of undead through a young mage child it isn't to farfetched that a demon could give a mundane the ability to weild magic or magic like abilities. Also everyone save for dewaves are connected to the fade so they do have the potenital to be able to use magic of some form or another. Just a theory or crazy ramblings. Take your pick.eluvianix wrote...
I find Harimann's situation a big interesting. A demon making mages seems out of the ordinary.thetinyevil wrote...
Fiona Harimann said that there is no magic in their blood which was a point of pride for their family. So she as a mundane that made a deal with a demon trapped outside the fade.eluvianix wrote...
We have no clue about Lady Harimann. I never saw anything to indicate that she made a deal to actually gain magic. But mages still represent the highest danger in regards to possession. A mage's inherent abilities get supercharged when possessed. I'd rather face a possessed Sophia Dryden than an abomination.dragonflight288 wrote...
So simply being weak is a death sentence?
Right, and considering all the veil tears that would be in place, the demons aren't going to be targeting just mages as they're wandering around Thedas and can come across any mundane.
We have seen Sophia Dryden possessed. We saw Lady Herriman make a deal with a Desire Demon and gained blood magic abilities as a result, we have seen possessed templars and so on. With all these demons wandering around, the mages are no longer the only ones in the most danger.
For this plan to work, you would now have to kill all weak or possibly dangerous mundanes as well as all mages. So in essence, the majority of all life.
Sophia Dryden was a pain in the ass to kill, worse than the damn demons we had to kill in order to close the fade tears.
I'm not saying that mages couldn't be more or less be created by high level demons, but if demons could simply grant magic to mundanes, why even bother to possess mages when they could just possess anyone and give them magic?thetinyevil wrote...
Well if a demon could raise an army of undead through a young mage child it isn't to farfetched that a demon could give a mundane the ability to weild magic or magic like abilities. Also everyone save for dewaves are connected to the fade so they do have the potenital to be able to use magic of some form or another. Just a theory or crazy ramblings. Take your pick.
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